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Frant
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I wonder if that means that a lot more cocaine is getting smuggled through those ports.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 03:59 Post subject: |
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To be honest, I have no idea. It is safe to assume that a multitude (3 to 4 times) of above amount get shipped without interception.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 09:56 Post subject: |
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You'll get people despising you for smoking tobacco/cannabis (fine, consumption is bad for lungs, can't argue with that).. who will then whip out their coke container and snort a line in front of you as if that's absolutely normal and healthy. That has happened to me more and more frequently.
Cocaine is trendier, active.. a working's man drug - while weed is a lazy unproductive bum one. You can see that plays a great part in how people perceive cocaine and cocaine users. Very popular everywhere, not just amongst overworked and well-paid executives any more. When I was younger, it used to be quite a taboo and the popular gateway into hard drugs.. doesn't seem like this stigma is there any more.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 11:20 Post subject: |
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it's a rich man's drug that's why there's no stigma around it, people don't bully rich men they worship and emulate them even in bad habits.
E.U is client #1 for it, comes all the way from colombia to west africa and moves upwards. There was a huge bust here about some politician that moved it to Europe through freezer trucks, hidden in the the ice, which is pretty hard to spot that way through a scanner and these trucks having special treatment not to be opened unless absolutely necessary + corrupt governments all the way to the top made it super easy to make this a routine.
Google "sahara escobar", most articles in french for more info
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 11:20 Post subject: |
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 14:08 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | it's a rich man's drug that's why there's no stigma around it, people don't bully rich men they worship and emulate them even in bad habits.
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| TheZor wrote: | | iCocaine is trendier, active.. a working's man drug - while weed is a lazy unproductive bum one. |
Agreed, while there is overlap and not universal, the vague distinction line drawn between users:
Well to do people dont see coke as bad or a 'drug' because they or those they know do it.
Middle class dont see weed as bad or a 'drug' because they, or those they know do it.
Only the drugs poor/homeless do is 'bad' drugs.
At least in my experience of those that I know that do either. Coke is the businessman's: It's barely a 'drug' really. Weed is the everyman's: It's barely a 'drug' really.
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 16:37 Post subject: |
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With alcohol still being legal and the most harmful of them all (also because of it's social status), any discussion about other drugs being 'bad' always leaves me with a hypocritical feeling.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 16:58 Post subject: |
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I personally feel they are all able to be 'bad' (subjective on the meaning of bad). As in the drug itself is a mundane inanimate substance, just a thing. Not inherently bad itself.
It's the person using it that makes it 'bad' for them. For every substance you can list I have known people that are responsible with it (if that's the right term...like can you 'responsibility' use meth? or Crack...high functioning user I guess is the best term). And known people that went off the deep end of it. From weed, to crack and fent, and everything in between.
In the end, if you are voluntarily taking a substance solely from your own desire to, for the sole intent of the altering effects of it. Its all 'same-same' to me. Neither good or bad in that action. It's how abusive of wanting to do that action that is. Be it weed or crack.
And the acceptability of doing it, is purely a social consensus of arbitrary subjective reasoning of which are 'ok' and which have a stigma.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 17:46 Post subject: |
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People still do cocaine these days at large? And people here call it a "rich drug"? Maybe up until the early 2000s. These days, high society is almost exclusively [ab]using legal Adderall and other legal drugs, thus completely avoiding legal issues. Doctors are writing prescriptions behind closed doors, pharmacies are selling it like hotcakes, and all is well in the world. Students, actors, writers, "high society", etc.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 18:13 Post subject: |
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Rich as in upper middle class edge of the law types, or those that are chasing 'rich'. Not NY penthouse owners/CEO/hollywood rich, is how I meant it.
Adderall really is only the replacement for normal average people that worry about their daily lives as a 'normal' person in the communities eyes to start with.
As not sure the rest of the world. But here, coke is still huge. Pick any random stripclub in florida, and any given night has enough to fill a sandwich sized ziploc bag. The owner can get you a kilo with a phone call if you want it. Anyone in that shady/shadowy facate of the world don't care about the 'legal issues' and aren't seeking Adderall to avoid it. They are already flinging bags of moly, weed, and such at night clubs and stripclubs.
Coke is easier to get, cheaper, and available 24/7 (try to find a doc to refill you Adderall at 3am when you took/sold them all). And most will do Adderall only if coke isn't at hand that moment. As it's NOwhere near as impactful as coke is for the high they are chasing.
So while Adderall may be the new drug of choice for 'a bump of pick me up' for the average person. Coke is STILL huge for those are not worried about cops, since other things they are/have been doing make a coke charge frivolous.
For example nearly every dancer I know/knew over 20 years, would be delighted if cops raided, and a few lines of coke possession charge, was the only charge they got hit with. Thats "Best case, I got lucky" situation.
Or in other words TLDR version: Those average otherwise normal people that pop an Addy once or twice a week, or do a bump of coke at parties, are not the ones causing a demand where 60,000 kg of it can be found  They are not the main demand of the supply demand.
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| Posted: Mon, 18th Mar 2024 20:38 Post subject: |
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| Il_Padrino wrote: | For weed, Croatia and Slovenia are the places to be, it seems 
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