Mass storage / backups, what are you using?
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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 20:54    Post subject: Mass storage / backups, what are you using?
What do you use for backing up your shit? Something online, a huge server, burning on blu-rays?

not sure i found the best solution, but quite cheap i think?

40 euro:



then 50 euro for:

10 x 1TB HDDs. used ones, super easy to find cheap 10-packs here on Tradera (our ebay) + i already owned one 4TB and one 1.5TB HDD.

always tons of free space on my SSD's now, not sure what took me so long..
Maybe there's a better solution though? this will be some manual labor, but i think i can live with switching out HDD's from time to time.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 21:12    Post subject:
How about a simple NAS? Confused
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 21:39    Post subject:
10x1TB used hard drives sounds like good backup solution Laughing Just get simple NAS.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 21:55    Post subject:
I got a 10TB WD red spinning disk in my machine for my own backups.
And a cheap dual drive Synology with two Ironwolf 10TB disks. Its for backups of my drive (anything you dont have 2 copies of is something your willing to lose). And for streaming movies to the TV, shared to network and drive mapped on all the PC's in the house so kids and wife can store on it from their machines, etc.

And one of these for random disks I need to format, fix from other peoples PC, get files they want of 'dead' PC's for them with a 2TB stuck it in for random storage when not being used for any other the other reasons:
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Lay-Flat-Docking-EC-DFLT/dp/B00LS5NFQ2


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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 21:58    Post subject:
A 2x HDD NAS seems to be like 5x as expensive as this solution though? and for a 2x HDD permanent solution i would want at least 10TB, and i'm not sure i would trust buying e.g old 4+TB drives, from my experience those larger 4TB HDD's are nowhere near as reliable as smaller 1TB and under. i guess it has something to do with them using more platters, more can go wrong.
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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 21:59    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
I got a 10TB WD red spinning disk in my machine for my own backups.
And a cheap dual drive Synology with two Ironwolf 10TB disks. Its for backups of my drive (anything you dont have 2 copies of is something your willing to lose). And for streaming movies to the TV, shared to network and drive mapped on all the PC's in the house so kids and wife can store on it from their machines, etc.

And one of these for random disks I need to format, fix from other peoples PC, get files they want of 'dead' PC's for them with a 2TB stuck it in for random storage when not being used for any other the other reasons:
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Lay-Flat-Docking-EC-DFLT/dp/B00LS5NFQ2


Cool. Sounds good!
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 22:01    Post subject:
Yea, I think I paid $200 for my 2 drive synology. But was more for the 'out of the box' network options and apps it had and able to stream movies/music/whatever from it around the house without a lot of setup as my kids and wife are pretty PC novices.
Also accessing it from the internet is nice if I'm at a friends house and need some files/programs/whatever working on their PC or any other reason while there.

Also nice to install syncovery on and have it auto do backups of stuff without needing to use my PC to run it as a program.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 22:03    Post subject:
yeah accessing it from other places can be good for sure! Long term i will likely get some NAS setup, could be good. I've never really had any kind of backup solution other than perhaps saving something to my old HDD's, so this is just that but more expanded and a bit easier haha
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 22:07    Post subject:
Same, I got tired of having 4 or 5 1-2TB drives laying around of things I never used, but didn't want to lose.

Now I dont even think about it. The NAS box backs up my PC (the things I tell it to not the whole thing) as well as my daughters digital art files, my sons random work/tabletop stuff for his game on his PC, and is simple enough to access from the TV they can download movies/shows they want to see since we got rid of cable and just put in the right folder and go watch, without pestering me to download it on my machine and get it playing on the TV for them.

So I guess a bit off topic as my usage is more than just backup. But still applies as I got it JUST for auto back up and started actually using the other features it had over time.

Figured cloud stage big enough for all of us was $150 a year. Might as well just pay $200 once (the drives I got free from a friend), and also can access it if internet is down.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Sep 2023 22:15    Post subject:
yes streaming to the TV would be great to have too eventually.

maybe i'll save up next year to get something better than having like 12-13 HDD's in a drawer hehe

yes i was thinking about cloud too, but it's just too expensive. this isn't super vital for me, but it will get more and more important over time, from what it feels like.

i bought an external CD/DVD reader too, time to go through all my old shit Smile got so many audio books on them that arent available anywhere these days. glad i did save those.
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PostPosted: Thu, 21st Sep 2023 13:49    Post subject:
God knows how much I lost on CD/DVD since I stopped using them. I had about 6-7 of the 50 pack spool holders filled with burned disks. But as I used them less they sat. And eventually just tossed them out.
As I went "I haven't needed them in years, so I never will". But I know there was old art, random pics from online, music stuff, and god knows what of memories of things I was working on that are gone forever, that I forgot was on them to care to keep.


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Oct 2023 16:18    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
What do you use for backing up your shit?


Crossed fingers and some HDD's that are older than the average youtube enjoyer Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Oct 2023 16:47    Post subject:
Im using a DS920+
it was expensive but i love it!


shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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Areius




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Oct 2023 17:25    Post subject:
I have a similar USB hub and 2x 4TB hdd for backup. Will upgrade to 2x 8TB in the future as both disks are full Laughing The real important shit I have backed up in another location on a USB stick (16GB).


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PickupArtist




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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Mar 2024 18:39    Post subject:


looks cool, but if the board dies, all data goes poof ? Or just plugging them into a new board will work if ur doing a raid1 or 5 ?

https://tweakers.net/downloads/67656/freefilesync-134.html

i use this free software at work to sync
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Mar 2024 19:01    Post subject:
DS1821+ w/ 4× WD120EFBX-68B0EN0 + 4× WD100EFAX-68LHPN0
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Mar 2024 20:45    Post subject:
I only backup personal and work related documents and photos using a synology NAS to which I attached a WD Book for a second backup. The NAS stays online 24/7 since its also my personal cloud and my movie server. The WD Book goes into the Safe when we go on vacation.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Mar 2024 21:46    Post subject:
I got the same exact setup as you @couleur and for the same uses and reasons Laughing
Other than my WD external stay out all the time.


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Mar 2024 23:52    Post subject:
DS1019+ with 5x10TB WD RED PRO in Hybrid Raid.
F4-424 Pro with 4x12TB Refurb Drives with 5 year warranty ~ 80$ each in Hybrid Raid.


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