The Ethical Consumer
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 14:56    Post subject: The Ethical Consumer
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stormwolf: People might care, but they're not willing to give away their stuff or sacrifice their lifestyle to do it. Even the preachy ones. All waiting for other people to do the heavy lifting. Best not to give a fuck tbh


Agree, it's also what the research shows. https://www.choice.com.au/shopping/everyday-shopping/ethical-buying-and-giving/articles/do-consumers-care-about-ethical-products

That said, I flat boycott and never re-neg on it. I know it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things, but fuck them, and that feels good.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 15:11    Post subject:
I don't care, virtue signal about it or try to make others feel guilty about it (unless they start it, usually posting from their iphone Laughing)


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 15:14    Post subject:
Speaking for myself, I try to avoid meat. Then again I bought vegetarian soup in the supermarket, and it had a label with: "With Vegetarian Soup balls" And you know what: it tasted like shit these vegetarian balls.

If you want to stop eating meat, you have to change your whole way of food consumption.

Edit: https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 17:03    Post subject:
Laughing yes I am well past caring what the next person is doing. Since it came up in the woke thread thought I would move it here. Here's some possible oddball stuff I do off the top of my head:

I dropped meat outside fish 6 years now having eaten it my entire life. I haven't found this too hard to be honest. I will eat it if someone serve's me / buys a lunch / work pizza's whatever because preaching food or being difficult to people is fucking annoying. I don't eat heaps of plant meats but every now find they are pretty decent. Almost any restaurant, cafe, even fast food has meat alternatives.

Eggs, I spend 4-5x the cost on the least chicken to acre ratio eggs which is still probably still a shit-sty, it's something I can do now (it's 100 chicken per acre btw). My endgame is have chickens, but can't do it yet. I'd like to reduce my dairy intake but find all the alternative are terrible, bonsoy is not bad in some circumstances > it's shit in coffee though but I should drop coffee anyway.

Shame that palm oil industry is so high ^. Orangutans are cool, very likely we kill them all.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 17:18    Post subject:
Just consume that you are happy with, if it's legal. (Wuhan?)

Or not? The biosphere of this planet is doomed anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 18:07    Post subject:
I just cut my meat consumption to 1-2 times per week instead of everyday a few years back. And its mostly chicken.

I also take the ebike to got work, do groceries and go to sports. But I suppose thats not very special. Still was kind of a big change for me.


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 18:18    Post subject:
Ive been doing more chicken, one it helps on a larger overall scale. Two it helps me maybe live a tiiiiny bit longer.
Red meat: Steaks, burgers, Ribs, ground beef based stuff like swedish meatballs, shepards pie, and so on, 5 times a week probably wasn't the most healthy diet for a 49 year old.

Do I LIKE it? I dont rave over it...haha. Chicken is my least favorite common meat, it's the tofu of meat to me LOL. (common as in beef, pork, chicken, fish..things everyone in US eats)
Now I dont hate it, but I miss my comfort meals Razz Growing up in the southern US everything was beef/pork based with lost of butter and fat/lard used as cooking base.
The general idea seems to be: If you can't feel your arteries clogging just looking at it and you are not ready for a nap after eating it, it's not good southern food.


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 18:50    Post subject:
Haha, sounds like you need to try some of my lemongrass roast chicken then ! Razz
We've cut down and try to have 1/3 meal without meat.. both out of environmental and financial concerns, let's be honest Laughing I'm otherwise a big red meat lover, but all in all.. great things do get even better in moderation.

iconized wrote:
Speaking for myself, I try to avoid meat. Then again I bought vegetarian soup in the supermarket, and it had a label with: "With Vegetarian Soup balls" And you know what: it tasted like shit these vegetarian balls.


Laughing I'm just picturing you saying "it tasted like shit" with your bowl o'soup in front of you Razz Well, they won't catch you another time !


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 19:15    Post subject:
@TheZor
Wouldn't help. Laughing
Im sure its delicious. But the chicken part to me is just a texture, not a flavor.
Not sure if it's just me, as people say chicken cooked right is delicious. To me no matter how its cooked chicken itself has no flavor. It just tastes like a blank slate to carry whatever its cooked in/with. Why I said its the Tofu of meat to me. It has nearly zero taste on its own. Whatever you add to it is the taste it has.

Chicken flavor is equal to a plain baked potato flavor level for me. IT doesn't taste like anything really. it's what you add to it that makes you want to eat it. The potato is just there to hold the tasty stuff together.


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 20:46    Post subject:
Chicken breast, agree. Chicken thigh though tastes delicious
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 20:57    Post subject:
Regarding chicken breast, little tip you mens might want to try: cut it in cubes and apply a bit of baking soda before frying it. Gives it a glazed look but somehow allows the chicken to absorb whichever seasonings you apply before or during the cooking better.
I use it mostly on teriyaki fried chicken and the portulolese typical chicken with beer (Laughing)


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 21:05    Post subject:
I'll try that! Thanks.
Do you toss it in baking soda? Don't mean batter it with it of course, I mean dry the chicken and toss it in a bowl so it lightly coats all over, or just a light dusting with it over the top?


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 21:10    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Regarding chicken breast, little tip you mens might want to try: cut it in cubes and apply a bit of baking soda before frying it. Gives it a glazed look but somehow allows the chicken to absorb whichever seasonings you apply before or during the cooking better.
I use it mostly on teriyaki fried chicken and the portulolese typical chicken with beer (Laughing)


Isnt thst the chinese trick, which also makes the meat a bit gooey?
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th Mar 2023 21:51    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
I'll try that! Thanks.
Do you toss it in baking soda? Don't mean batter it with it of course, I mean dry the chicken and toss it in a bowl so it lightly coats all over, or just a light dusting with it over the top?
Cut the breast in cubes, rinse it a bit, let it dry, add a bit of baking soda powder and mix it by hand. Then add the rest of the ingredients for the teriyaki chicken and fry it OR toss it in the fryer and then add the rest of the ingredients for the chicken breast with beer one.

Stormwolf wrote:
Isnt thst the chinese trick, which also makes the meat a bit gooey?
Yes! Saw this trick in a video reveling the supposed secrets of take-away chicken rice for one to cook it at home:



Special soy sauce, shaoxing wine and the toasted sesame oil are hard to find here (as in, I don't have those on the biggest supermarket near me AND I'm lazy to look for them elsewhere.
BTW, the chicken hax are there from 5:23 onwards.


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Mar 2023 01:10    Post subject:
I've been vegetarian since I was born. Of course I never dictate anyone to eat or not eat something - what you eat is up to you in the end.

The only animal products I consume are milk because I tried oat milk and almond milk but I started getting pimples all across my forehead. Apparently it's quite common with oat milk since a lot of people on the net have complained about it Laughing I also sometimes eat egg indirectly in the form of loaf cakes/muffins but that's about it.

The best way to understand what vegetables you like are is to prepare sauteed vegetables and then when you're eating it, you'll understand which ones you like and which ones you don't. Also there are various pulses you can eat by making a gravy out of them like chickpeas, red/green split or whole lentils, red kidney beans etc.



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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Mar 2023 05:43    Post subject:
@tonizito Very nice post. Think you can do this with tofu as well, dry it, baking soda it, cornstarch it > makes the outside crispy.

Dropping meat does require lifestyle change as you have to learn what else to do, but it doesn't take long before you discover a plethora of easy snacks and new things you like.

A go-to easy snack for me is effectively fried rice, cabbage and other veg, soy or coconut aminos, tofu > to finish off semi fry an egg on top.

Also those popular Korean Ramen packs are awesome, I've tried most these variations all good.
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PostPosted: Tue, 28th Mar 2023 09:24    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
DXWarlock wrote:
I'll try that! Thanks.
Do you toss it in baking soda? Don't mean batter it with it of course, I mean dry the chicken and toss it in a bowl so it lightly coats all over, or just a light dusting with it over the top?
Cut the breast in cubes, rinse it a bit, let it dry, add a bit of baking soda powder and mix it by hand. Then add the rest of the ingredients for the teriyaki chicken and fry it OR toss it in the fryer and then add the rest of the ingredients for the chicken breast with beer one.

Stormwolf wrote:
Isnt thst the chinese trick, which also makes the meat a bit gooey?
Yes! Saw this trick in a video reveling the supposed secrets of take-away chicken rice for one to cook it at home:



Special soy sauce, shaoxing wine and the toasted sesame oil are hard to find here (as in, I don't have those on the biggest supermarket near me AND I'm lazy to look for them elsewhere.
BTW, the chicken hax are there from 5:23 onwards.


I do love some chinese flied lice long time. I'll check it out later!
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