Meanwhile in the Netherlands: SMS gate
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 11:02    Post subject: Meanwhile in the Netherlands: SMS gate
https://www.tweedekamer.nl/vergaderingen/livedebat/plenaire-zaal

Dunno if the stream works outside this country.
And then you probably don't understand Dutch.

In short the prime minister has deleted SMS messages from his mobile phone for years.
Edit: And these messages haven't been archived.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 13:01    Post subject:
whats so special about that?
german politician are doing that for years with sms and emails in court hearing after they fucked something up. or they just "forget" it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 15:04    Post subject:
highfe wrote:
whats so special about that?
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 15:12    Post subject:
The PM here needs to keep his/her correspondence public.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 17:28    Post subject:
and im supposed to bilieve the isp/provider didnt store or save those messages ? good joke, if they really want the messages, get a warrant and voila, there is all ur messages
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 17:38    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
and im supposed to bilieve the isp/provider didnt store or save those messages ? good joke, if they really want the messages, get a warrant and voila, there is all ur messages


But then people will know ISP/telecom companies save all your private data. Laughing can't have that. You want people against big brother not against big telecom.


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 17:50    Post subject:
its a law in europe as far as i know they need to keep all traffic shit for 5 years for terrorist blablabla , everyone knows or should know this already, its like our very own patriot act turd of a law, including pings of cellpone towers to triangulate ur position anywere u went
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 18:44    Post subject:
This article speaks of a year, but does not mention SMS.
https://business.gov.nl/amendment/access-telecom-data-restricted/
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 18:59    Post subject:
nobody sends sms anymore ... its all whatsapp/telegram

id be suprized if they do real sms
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th May 2022 19:04    Post subject:
This prime minister of ours used SMS with an old Nokia mobile, probably Nokia 301.
For years he has been deleting these messages.

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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2022 05:58    Post subject:
isn't there a limit saving sms on such a phone? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2022 07:27    Post subject:
highfe wrote:
isn't there a limit saving sms on such a phone? Confused
Its usually 500 Nokias of that era. So for a person in that kind of position might have to delete SMSes.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2022 12:39    Post subject:
now im really curious what is actually safer to use, old sms on an old ass phone or an encrypted whatsapp on an upto date android /ios smartphone

ud think old sms can be way more easily intercepted ? or do all these israeli backdoors n keyloggers not work, like that arabian crown prince murderer used on besos his pohne, on old phones and so sms is safer?

obviously encryption means jack shit if they keylog everything , but ud think knowing how everytime u knew back in the day u got an sms ur radio started making noises, u can simply intercept that wave and crack that aswel?
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2022 13:44    Post subject:
This reminds me of Hillary Clintons SMS-gate. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2022 14:50    Post subject:
wasnt hillary emails ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th May 2022 16:02    Post subject:
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wasnt hillary emails ?


Oh, right. Same shit, different delivery path.


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