Just another day in Sweden
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 06:23    Post subject: Just another day in Sweden







This is the kind of shit we dont want here in Norway Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 07:27    Post subject:
Can't tell what it is or why it's happening Confused
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 09:10    Post subject:
Some guy wanted to burn the koran i believe and swedish cucks and arabs went crazy
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 10:09    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
Some guy wanted to burn the koran i believe and swedish cucks and arabs went crazy
Pretty much. We do have free speech... but with moderation Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 13:44    Post subject:
Both videos posted by "alternative" far right anti-islamic social media outlets. The whole thing was organized by the danish politician and anti-islam proponent Rasmus Paludan who formed the danish party "Hard Line". He did the same thing in Denmark in 2019:

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In April 2019, the party held an event where the Quran was tossed around and then burned. chairman Rasmus Paludan was attacked by counter-demonstrators during a demonstration at the Blågårds Plads in the ethnically diverse Nørrebro district of Copenhagen. After the attack, Paludan was escorted away from the event but the riots resumed when he returned and police used tear gas to subdue the rioters who numbered about 200.


So danish "cucks and arabs" exist in Denmark as well. In fact, I think they exist everywhere including Norway. Wink


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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 16:11    Post subject:
sweden is awesome they waste a bunch of resources on useless stuff like this, which they got a lot to spare, win.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 16:20    Post subject:
Im pretty tired of this left/right, or far left, far right discussion. This isnt about racism... if anyhing common sense and how to act properly in a society. And to be clear I hate all religions, not equally but not far from it. What I mean by that is that iv never heard of an "extremist buddist". Kinda goes against their views. Laughing Still... all religions suck. Challenge Accepted Exclamation
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 19:48    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Im pretty tired of this left/right, or far left, far right discussion. This isnt about racism... if anyhing common sense and how to act properly in a society. And to be clear I hate all religions, not equally but not far from it. What I mean by that is that iv never heard of an "extremist buddist". Kinda goes against their views. Laughing Still... all religions suck. Challenge Accepted Exclamation


There was never that much racism with common people until the rise of the "left" where they branded everyone racist for the smallest of offenses. And then it was the females trying to be victims everywhere for everything. Look more than a second at an attractive female and naturally you're a misogynist pig who objectify said female in your mind. Absolute lunacy.

Object to any of this and you're a far right nazi bastard who'd kill every colored person given the choice, and you'd have no issues with rape. Again, absolute lunacy. It's like everyone is putting everything and everyone into boxes and cannot judge anything case by case, which of course is quite paradoxical when you think about what the left " wants and tries to achieve.

They feel oppressed by the white man, and now they want to oppress the white man. Quite counter productive if they want a society where we're all equal, but i guess they can't go against their basest instincts of revenge.

Bit of a ramble but it is what it is Laughing
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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 22:06    Post subject:
the biggest problem is people have too much time on their hands, we have so few problems that we now need to create them. These people are bored out of their minds, both sides.. this gives them "value".

In the 70-80's we had the saying "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me." it was a saying for kids to make them not run to mommy or the teacher for every little thing they perhaps could get a little upset about, and most could deal with it... Now we have 20 year olds burning down a city block for being offended Laughing now imagine how their kids will be... we are in for a nightmare.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 22:43    Post subject:
cause they getting more money for doing nothing then they would get at a minimum wage job?
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 22:57    Post subject:
I'm not sure what they would all work with to be honest, no one seems to know. many don't know the language, many are very low-IQ (have difficulties learning the clock etc).. my closest friend is a teacher so i've gotten many stories over the last 20 years. His classes for the last 15 or so years are usually 80-90% muslims, and yes not everyone is a complete idiot (many of the girls are actually quite smart) but too many...
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Apr 2022 23:55    Post subject:
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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Apr 2022 01:22    Post subject:
lol wut
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Apr 2022 02:52    Post subject:
M4trix wrote:
Religion of peace. Laughing

It seems that Russia isn't a real threat to Sweden atm. You have a bigger domestic problem.

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yep have to harden up and fix the woman and muslim problems first.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Apr 2022 02:53    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Im pretty tired of this left/right, or far left, far right discussion. This isnt about racism... if anyhing common sense and how to act properly in a society. And to be clear I hate all religions, not equally but not far from it. What I mean by that is that iv never heard of an "extremist buddist". Kinda goes against their views. Laughing Still... all religions suck. Challenge Accepted Exclamation


Religion suck.

https://www.dw.com/en/norway-islam-clashes/a-54756338


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Apr 2022 03:03    Post subject:
zTurbo wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-immolation



I guess that's taking enlightenment a bit too literal.


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deelix
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Apr 2022 08:39    Post subject:
Hurting yourself like that is somewhat better than attacking someone else, but still stupid; even for a bigger or higher cause.
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Apr 2022 08:22    Post subject:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61134734


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Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 00:18    Post subject:
give them all some porn and games, and nobody will bother rioting anymore and mosk attendance will drop like a rock ...
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 00:36    Post subject:
Apparently they spotted many gang criminals in the crowds. Those are the people that young kids and teens look up to growing up in immigrant suburbs with a high percentage of muslims (whether religious or cultural/heritage). These riots didn't really have much to do with the quran itself since I suspect most of the rioters aren't particularly religious. They most likely see it as a racist attack against them.

And really, an anti-muslim acticits planning, scheduling and promoting the burning of the quran in a suburb with a high number of immigrants (1st, 2nd and 3rd generations) with muslim backgrounds... he did it just to rile up the locals to do exactly what they did, hoping that people reading the news will become more anti-muslim. Sadly it works.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 00:44    Post subject:
Well, perhaps they can stop acting like savage fucks and maybe just maybe people will look at them like decent fellow humans? I might be old fashioned, but when you enter someones home you don't start trashing the place and burning things.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 00:50    Post subject:
How does it make people reading more anti-muslim? When i read it (plus vurts posts) I think Swedish people have a problem with Muslims and immegrants and this only makes the situation worse.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 00:50    Post subject:
Sure.. but it's still wrong to plan and perform a massive "fuck-off-you-goatfucking-neanderthals" insult-show in their front yard.

I'm pretty sure that if a group of muslims would schedule and announce that they would burn the Swedish or Norwegian flag in the capitals we'd see nationalists, far right activists and neo-nazis show up and act similar or worse.

It's legal to burn the flag in both Sweden and Norway just like it's legal to burn the quran. That doesn't mean it's a good idea in any way.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 01:03    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
How does it make people reading more anti-muslim? When i read it (plus vurts posts) I think Swedish people have a problem with Muslims and immegrants and this only makes the situation worse.


That's very exaggerated. Most people have gotten used to muslim immigrants, esp. since the younger generations aren't really religious. The younger generations in the population are a lot more tolerance. I'm not going to speak for or against vurt, you can look through his posts on the forum if you wish. He's just sharing his personal subjective opinions.

I'm trying to balance the opinions with my own experience from real life, various news sources and my circle of friends and acquaintances. People with strong negative views of muslims and Islam is a loud but small minority.

The biggest problem with the immigrants from the middle east isn't islam or that they have muslim backgrounds, it's that they live in suburbs and areas with many many other immigrants which turns the whole area into it's own enclave, thus separating themselves from the rest of the society. It's a generalisation of course but those suburbs keep repeating the cycle of children growing up seeing the big crime gangs that exert their influence over the younglings, some of them later becoming gang criminals themselves.

Sweden haven't found a way to deal with the criminal networks that are connected all over Europe with drugs being the main thing. The gangs have become more callous with many murders inside the world of gang crime. The average citizen doesn't have to be particularly afraid of them although there are a few incidents where innocents have become victims.

It's more sad than anything else and is very reminiscent to how the criminal gangs works in the US (esp. LA) and they're basically the template that gang criminality in Sweden grew from.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 01:13    Post subject:
Ya you also userstand its completely normal to see cultures centralize to one or two suburbs. Growing up here i can name the 2 suburbs for Greek immigrants, the lebonese suburb, the Vietnamese suburb, the Chinese suburb, were a lot of people from UK moved to, where Argentinian and south American families moved. Of course not a hard rule but very clear that cultures would centralise in areas.

Maybe this also a case of large influx of Greek immigrants, these 2 suburbs are cheap and therefore become suburbs where a lot of Greek people live.

If you moved to a foreign country wouldn't you aim to move near friends, family, somewhere that has a local mosque, somewhere where a lot of my friends and family are moving to? I would think so.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 01:24    Post subject:
AmpegV4 wrote:
Ya you also userstand its completely normal to see cultures centralize to one or two suburbs. Growing up here i can name the 2 suburbs for Greek immigrants, the lebonese suburb, the Vietnamese suburb, the Chinese suburb, were a lot of people from UK moved to, where Argentinian and south American families moved. Of course not a hard rule but very clear that cultures would centralise in areas.

Maybe this also a case of large influx of Greek immigrants, these 2 suburbs are cheap and therefore become suburbs where a lot of Greek people live.

If you moved to a foreign country wouldn't you aim to move near friends, family, somewhere that has a local mosque, somewhere where a lot of my friends and family are moving to? I would think so.


Of course. Immigrating from muslim/far-away countries without speaking the language or knowing/understanding the culture in the new host country it's only natural that you'd seek familiarity... It becomes a trap though since the socio-economic possibilities in these suburbs are very different from the rest of the country and there's a kind of invisible wall between them and the rest of the society which creates resentment towards Sweden and Swedes.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Apr 2022 03:10    Post subject:
It's a wall they create themselves. Don't kid yourself now. It's the same with most foreigners. They'll mingle with their own if they can. And it is quite understandable. Just that apparently some are more prone to violence and gang behavior than others, obviously.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Apr 2022 11:49    Post subject:
Quote:
Minister: The riots were fueled by foreign Islamists


According to the government, the violent Easter riots were instigated by foreign Islamists on social media.

- They have been running during the weekend, says Minister of Justice Morgan Johansson to Aftonbladet.

According to Aftonbladet's information, there was a suspicion of foreign influence already during the weekend - but neither the police nor the Agency for Psychological Defense want to comment.

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A police source with insight into how the riots were handled over the weekend says that there were early suspicions that the riots were fueled by foreign Islamists on social media and that this was also handled at staff level at the police's national operational department.

"Trying to harm Sweden"
Minister of Justice Morgan Johansson confirms that there are signs of incitement from actors abroad.

- We had a campaign about LVU against Swedish social services a few months ago, it originated from the Middle East starting in Egypt. There are many signs that they have been running here as well, campaigning and supporting this in various ways.


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