Getting old sucks...surgery sucks more.
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 00:16    Post subject: Getting old sucks...surgery sucks more.
Had nasal/sinus surgery today to remove inverted polyp...something something...from my front sinuses.

Now nose is packed with some bioresorbable nasal packing made of some sort of meat...stuff?
My nose hurts, feels over full, cant breath thru it, feels like I need to blow it from the packing but can't for 3 days. Best way to describe the feeling: Go buy some raw soft sushi meat, cram as MUCH of it as you can in both nostrils as far as you can up there...and then go about your day with it in.
AND won't stop trickle bleeding and have to wear a 'mustache dressing' for two more days and it pulls on my ears, pushes on my sore nose..and gets in the way of drinking/eating.
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OH and my doc is one of those that are trying to fight the opioid epidemic in america full force across the board no exceptions. So pain meds she gave me was ibuprofen and acetaminophen (Advil and Tylenol), no oxy or hydrocodone. Which what she gave me i can get over the counter, and seems to nearly do fuck all for the pain...haha

Anyway, just mini-rant of getting old, and needing shit fixed on the old gelape constantly like its a cheap 47 year old car Razz
Ranting here into the ether, since my wife bless her soul, is trying to baby me so hard that the smallest complaint gets a full mother instinct hover mode over me. Not complaining she does, not at ALL I am lucky she cares so much to help me with it how she can. just complaining I cannot complain to vent at her without her acting like she just saw me ran over by a car and I am crying for help...LOL


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 00:58    Post subject:
Get well!

I gotta do a similar surgery soon, my nose is pretty much unusable at this point. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 01:08    Post subject:
Having surgery sucks. Thankfully I had my polyps removed as a little kid, so they won't flare up at least.


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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 01:34    Post subject:
Thanks guys. At least I got a week and a few days off work...silver lining I suppose. Dont go back to work until the 28th.

Nodrim wrote:
Get well!

I gotta do a similar surgery soon, my nose is pretty much unusable at this point. Sad

If you do, make sure they use the dissolving packing.
My friend a few years back did a deviated septum surgery and they used the normal packing, which means they had to go back, after it was mostly healed and have them pull/ply them out. He said it hurt like hell, made him nose bleed all over the place and had to re-heal whatever they was stuck to when they came out.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 01:40    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
My friend a few years back did a deviated septum surgery and they used the normal packing, which means they had to go back, after it was mostly healed and have them pull/ply them out. He said it hurt like hell, made him nose bleed all over the place and had to re-heal whatever they was stuck to when they came out.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 08:13    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:

OH and my doc is one of those that are trying to fight the opioid epidemic in america full force across the board no exceptions. So pain meds she gave me was ibuprofen and acetaminophen (Advil and Tylenol), no oxy or hydrocodone. Which what she gave me i can get over the counter, and seems to nearly do fuck all for the pain...haha


Eh.. from my experience, not all painkillers act the same for everyone. After I had my tonsils removed (had a nasty case, they had to redo some stitching under local anesthesia), I tried 2 different prescription-only pills that did jack shit other than making me feel calm but still in pain. In the end what worked for me was basic water-soluble over the counter painkiller.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 08:44    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 08:53    Post subject:
Get well mate.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 11:21    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
What causes problems with polyps? Just age?


As people age they start blaming their age for everything.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 11:31    Post subject:
Well, that was a fear I didn't know I had just yet, and TIL what a polyp is and looks like Laughing Thanks DX ! Mad
Get well soon, this sounds reaaaally uncomfortable !


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 11:46    Post subject:
Get well soon!

How much did you pay for your little operation? $549,876? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 14:10    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Get well soon!

How much did you pay for your little operation? $549,876? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 15:44    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
What causes problems with polyps? Just age?


They are caused by the immune system overreacting.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 16:41    Post subject:
Sorry @TheZor Sad

LeoNatan wrote:
Get well soon!

How much did you pay for your little operation? $549,876? Laughing

Some stupid crazy amount total Im sure. My portion was $2100, and insurance covers the rest. And we got pretty good coverage from my job so the $2100 would be low end of the spectrum of out of pocket.
I'm assuming the total charges will be like 70k or some shit like that. I will know when they send the EOB (explanation of benefits) so I can submit it to my HRA to get some of the 2100 back...American healthcare is a clusterfuck of complication.

Steps to getting anything done:
-Go to doc, get told some arbitrary amount you have to pay upfront, could be co-pay, or part of your deductible, or something else..who knows! depends on how the doc bills it. And NO idea what the total will be, you can even ask the price and they usually will tell you "We dont know until after we are done what all is needed".
-Get an EOB a few weeks later that explains who paid what and what your potion is, and the insurances porition (and any left if you have to pay more).
-Submit EOB to HRA that my company I work for pays into ran by a different company than my insurance company, to see if I get any of the upfront money back.

See? So simply, and straight forward, and easy. Laughing
Why I didnt go to a doctor once from around age 25 to 40. Too much hassle and rube goldberg like process of "Can I afford to go today? Who knows, roll the dice and see after you committed to pay"


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 16:52    Post subject:
How come 90% in the US isn't living on the streets? seems 2 medical emergencies would kick the shit out of anyones economy... That is if they don't have any fantastical insurance.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 17:01    Post subject:
A lot of people do go bankrupt from medical. its the #1 cause of personal bankruptcy here.

And that HRA thing that pays me all (or some) of that $2100 I paid many people dont have, it's a thing your job can put money into to cover the difference between deductible and max out of pocket. Otherwise that $2100 would be all me to pay.
For my company it was cheaper to go with $10,000 deductible, and just make an HRA with $10,000 in it we can pull from than to get %100 coverage insurance for us. [In theory, I dont always get all my upfront back..that curtain of obscurity in insurance of no way to tell if I will until I try]

Nearly ALL americans pay $200-$500 a month for insurance out of paycheck depending on how many family members it covers, and remember this is on top of whatever they have to pay to actually go (makes NO sense how people are OK with that).
My company is really good they pay that for us I dont 'pay' for the insurance part monthly...now I'm sure it's 'coming out of paycheck' in a roundabout way as in they could probably give it to me as more pay if they didn't.
But I think our company is paying like 8k a month to cover 9 employees? That's outrageous to me.

So for MOST people its pay 300-500 a month to say you have insurance, then go to doc pay that upfront fee to get in to door(called co-pay usually), then pay again out of your own money when OEB comes and find out what deductible the insurance didn't cover.
Ive said it before, its a major factor in why my father passed away. he could not afford all the medications he needed, so he 'rationed' them. And couldnt afford insurance or doctor visits so he did the thing lots of americans do "Let it get bad enough tthen do an emergency room visit" because they have to treat you there if you come in. They still charge you keep in mind, but they cant turn you away. So goto emergency room rack up $10ks or $100k's of bills from it, and ignore the bills because you dont have the money.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 17:13    Post subject:
I mean its a system you've had forever. People are brainwashed by opinions and scared of trying somehting new thinking there has to be a back side to it. Latter part is quite understandable as there often is a serious backside. Worse medical equipment, less hospital staff, underpaid staff, long medical queues, the feeling of not being taken seriously at the doctors office.

Free medical service is nice overall, but it's not without downsides.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 17:20    Post subject:
Oh no I agree. But on a scale of worse, I think ours is tipping its weight of negative its way, to me anyway.
But many americans see the 'universal healthcare' as "I dont want to be paying for other peoples shit..not my problem." I know some people that said if we went to that system they would demand they get rights to tell people what to do: No smoking, no drinking, no being a fat fuck..hey Im paying for your health coverage with universal care, I get to say what you can and cant do..thats my money.

When in reality insurance is the SAME THING just more expensive and restrictive, with a private company middle man taking his healthy cut out of it: You pay monthly a huge amount, that gets spread to everyone under that insurance company.
AND you have to deal with 'in network' and 'out of network' bullshit. Finding a doctor that is in network of your insurance, else the insurance coverage either: Changes what it does cover and you pay more, or just doesn't cover squat if you see that doctor.
And if you need an ambulance..hope its in network, you dont get to choose...and I just found out a few years ago, ambulances are private companies here not ran by the hospital. The hospital has contract with the private ambulance companies. Its as private company as uber, or a taxi company and can cost up to $3000 for a 10 minute ride to the ER.
My daughter a few years ago was 'baker acted' https://www.myflfamilies.com/service-programs/samh/crisis-services/laws/bainvex.pdf (attempt at self harm..she had problems she was working thru)
It costs me $13,000 for ambulance ride and 1 night in hospital for her. Because we didnt get to pick the ambulance or the hospital they went to (they goto the one that pays them on contract). Which is pretty fucked up. If I didn't have that money saved, she would not have gotten help.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 18:54    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Sorry @TheZor Sad

LeoNatan wrote:
Get well soon!

How much did you pay for your little operation? $549,876? Laughing

Some stupid crazy amount total Im sure. My portion was $2100, and insurance covers the rest. And we got pretty good coverage from my job so the $2100 would be low end of the spectrum of out of pocket.
I'm assuming the total charges will be like 70k or some shit like that. I will know when they send the EOB (explanation of benefits) so I can submit it to my HRA to get some of the 2100 back...American healthcare is a clusterfuck of complication.

Steps to getting anything done:
-Go to doc, get told some arbitrary amount you have to pay upfront, could be co-pay, or part of your deductible, or something else..who knows! depends on how the doc bills it. And NO idea what the total will be, you can even ask the price and they usually will tell you "We dont know until after we are done what all is needed".
-Get an EOB a few weeks later that explains who paid what and what your potion is, and the insurances porition (and any left if you have to pay more).
-Submit EOB to HRA that my company I work for pays into ran by a different company than my insurance company, to see if I get any of the upfront money back.

See? So simply, and straight forward, and easy. Laughing
Why I didnt go to a doctor once from around age 25 to 40. Too much hassle and rube goldberg like process of "Can I afford to go today? Who knows, roll the dice and see after you committed to pay"

$2100 is still a huge sum of money to pay for something so trivial (that’s not to minimize your suffering, of course Laughing ).

The US is really a shithole country in disguise of a first-world country. Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 20:55    Post subject:
Yes it is an outrageous amount. Smile So many people I know avoid doctor visits unless its a situation where it really starts to worry them.
Why I think everyone else around the world that wants thier kids to be doctors want them to become one in the US. It's a money printing machine.


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Mar 2022 23:35    Post subject:
Attending physicians are well paid everywhere in the civilized world. Perhaps the ceiling isn’t as high for the top 99.9 percentile, but none are starving. The difference is that we have a competent health system that pays for some of these salaries, whereas in the US it all feels like insurance scam and corruption.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2022 03:00    Post subject:
I dunno if i'd use the word corruption, but the prices are quite inflated. Likely reduced prices would only amount the top brass not getting outrageous amounts of money... Scratch that. They'd reduce everyone eleses salary before they'd take a hit themselves with their fantasy amount of income.
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