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vurt
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 Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 16:19 Post subject: Generative art |
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If you have a decent graphics cards (+ google colab subscription) this is a total blast.
The below is created using Google Neural Network, Text-to-graphics AI (more specifically Disco Diffusion 4.1)
It's seriously blowing my mind, started with it yesterday, so i will hopefully improve.
A sentence to the generator can look like this "a tilt shift photo of scifi trash robot vehicles, futuristic police cars and cyberpunk kids in a bladerunner-like city. Nimbus clouds overhead. skyscrapers=backdrop, Chinese shop in foreground. Hyper detailed, 8K3d, Nvidia" and there you go (in ~40 mins depending on resolution, graphics card, subscription type). It might not look like anything you imagined, but that's where the fun is too.
The art is also unique, even if someone else writes that exact sentence it will look nothing like your image. Heavy usage of Cthulhu, shark and cyberpunk in the images below 
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This fucks with my mind. It looks really uncanny.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 18:08 Post subject: |
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 18:13 Post subject: |
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yeah, you can make it generate faster by not using that many steps (im not sure what you're using), but keep the steps to something like 60 first, don't go to like 200 or so, you will see very little difference for most images anyways. also resolution is best to keep rather low, most people generate at 512 or so and then upscale it with AI (gigapixel is awesome for this).
that looks like it could become really cool. It's so fun to follow the generation. I've had ants turning into helicopters before my eyes, that was so cool, because i wondered why the hell it puts ants in the sky (photorealistic ants!), "because they make perfect helicopters, you stupid human!" okkkkk sure AI, you know best! 
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vurt
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 18:57 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | yeah, you can make it generate faster by not using that many steps (im not sure what you're using), but keep the steps to something like 60 first, don't go to like 200 or so, you will see very little difference for most images anyways. also resolution is best to keep rather low, most people generate at 512 or so and then upscale it with AI (gigapixel is awesome for this).
that looks like it could become really cool. It's so fun to follow the generation. I've had ants turning into helicopters before my eyes, that was so cool, because i wondered why the hell it puts ants in the sky (photorealistic ants!), "because they make perfect helicopters, you stupid human!" okkkkk sure AI, you know best! |
I used the default settings and it was set to 250 steps.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 19:02 Post subject: |
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I tried generating an image at 70 and then at 700 just to understand what i'm dealing with, there was very little difference. but for some images, yes it can make a difference, some things changes, like stuff in the far background can get other kinds of detail, that doesn't always mean better, just different.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 19:06 Post subject: |
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I see this as someone just spashing paint all over and sees what sticks n looks good, how is this not copyrightable if u own all the originals its doing the AI stuff on? |
It must get complex very fast with this law, yes, you can apply it to your own images too, but what i've generated here is from the AI itself which learns from other artists, very similar to how a human takes inspiration from something and tries to mimic it..
It sounds weird to me, and IRL, who could prove it's from an AI and not from you.. who can prove you didn't photoshop the images to an extreme extent (this would make it your work)..
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 19:34 Post subject: |
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They either copy the image, a hash of the image, some meta data which is created during the generation etc. or they embed a watermark intricately hidden by introducing them in every frame during generation. That way they can easily regenerate that image using algorithms that use the data they've saved from the generation process and compare it to a generated image. In case it has been heavily edited in Photoshop or similar tools they can probably find watermarks by analyzing software.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2022 22:10 Post subject: |
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Cheers still mate!!
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2022 11:05 Post subject: |
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it's why i stated you should have a subscription, without that it's pretty useless imo because this is something you need to experiment with and do numerous tries before you are happy with something, i mean if you want to do ""serious"" images.
you can subscribe even if it tells you that you should be in US, just put in US zipcode, (there are ones that are better where you don't need to pay tax, google)
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Waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for me.
EDIT: Ooooh, I was looking at a completely different package that's aimed for professional work, not for something like Disco Diffusion. It's $9.99/month for the Google Collab Pro level (and a more hefty $49.99/month for Pro+).
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2022 11:11 Post subject: |
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its like 90 sek a month, i've been playing with this for at least 50h now after a few days only, more than most games. easily worth it, but not worth it if you're just gonna fuck around for perhaps 2h every month.
edit: i don't know what marketplace you checked, it's not what i pay, obviously, i just take a normal subscription, not the plus one.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2022 11:14 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | its like 90 sek a month, i've been playing with this for at least 50h now after a few days only, more than most games. easily worth it, but not worth it if you're just gonna fuck around for perhaps 2h every month. |
Well, since it's possible to queue up batches I can set up a whole bunch of renders and let it run in the background. I need to explore more regarding settings as well as how to write the text in the best way to get what I want.
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2022 11:25 Post subject: |
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This time I was assigned a GPU 0: Tesla P100-PCIE-16GB. Much better than the stuff I got from the free version.
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vurt
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2022 14:49 Post subject: |
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yeah, it varies what you get.
Giger-like (more to come!)
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| Posted: Thu, 24th Feb 2022 16:29 Post subject: |
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How are some of your pics so crisp and detailed vurt? Is there some setting you are using for that?
Even with 250 steps mine come out most the time like they was done in thin oil paint or something.
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