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Sin317
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 Posted: Mon, 1st Feb 2021 13:13 Post subject: Star Trek: Lower Decks |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Lower_Decks
| Quote: | | Star Trek: Lower Decks is an American adult animated television series created by Mike McMahan for the streaming service CBS All Access. It is the ninth series in the Star Trek franchise and was launched in 2020 as part of executive producer Alex Kurtzman's expansion of the franchise. Lower Decks is the first animated series created for All Access, and the first animated Star Trek series since the 1973–74 series Star Trek: The Animated Series. It follows the support crew of the U.S.S. Cerritos in the year 2380. |
available on Prime (in Europe anyway?)
Watched season 1 and it's honestly the best thing "Star Trek" currently and probably for the last 15+ years... I know, that doesn't mean much, but it could have been worse than what we got, right? ^^
It's adult-themed, has NO WOKE bs in it and any of that other bs that discovery or Picard have. it's simply fun to watch.
Timeline is somewhere after TNG (Ryker appears as the Captain of the USS Titan, no grey hair).
8/10
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9184820/episodes?ref_=tt_ov_epl
Starts with a 6.6 and ends with a 9.0, steadily increasing throughout.
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Feb 2021 13:20 Post subject: |
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I watched this while it aired and imo it is just as bad as the other shows, worse even. Cringy, gen-z animated ST, like totally you guys.
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vurt
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Horrordee
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Feb 2021 23:22 Post subject: |
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Jesus talk about marmite
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 02:17 Post subject: |
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Its not bad.
Its not good.
Its ok for what it is.
In all honesty the woke stuff doesn't get in the way thaaaaaat much. Its noticeable but given the direction star trek has been going in the nuverse it fits.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 05:18 Post subject: |
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If you wanna talk about woke and stuff you have to realize, your current experience is with those who are forcing it down your throat. It isn't nice or pleasant.
But much like any progress it usually comes with hostility. Being pan sexual isn't bad until you realize you want a monogamous relationship and can't hold one.
Being pro trans isn't bad until you realize you don't enjoy a female penis penetraring your male vagina.
Yes its silly and sounds stupid but at the end of the day it is progress. Its here to stay. The raping of our minds will continue but in 10ish years itll stop because its the norm. And in all honesty its intrusive now, but won't be then. And in reality the message is good. Just the delivery is not. So ignore the intrusiveness of it. Ignore any pandering and move on. You can't stop it. Because the only harm thats caused is to those who oppose it. It is ignorant of them to treat others as less than. I agree. But come on, unless you're into blue haired arm pits, it won't affect your current life. Just your media consumption. And even then, some woke stuff is decent.
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 06:03 Post subject: |
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At the end of the day it is not progress. Progress has such a positive swing to it. it's a diverge if anything, but it's still too many people who reject this to be said it's "progress" for society as a whole. But you are exactly right, the delivery is their biggest problem. Entertainment butchered for the sake of delivering messages will leave a sour aftertaste for many, myself included. Attacking people who have normal opinions (now seen as old fashioned by many), destroying cultural heritages.. Now that's where we should draw the line and think of the whole thing as fishy shouldnt we? Clearly there is a fault somewhere in either the delivery, message, the deliverer of the message, or all of the above when they're met with so much opposition.
And yes, it's not all bad. Acceptance of genders (only real genders), sexual orientations (only real sexual orientations) and female acceptance as people with their own ambitions and dreams. But as normal, they usually take things too far. Maybe step on men to elevate women. Step on white people to elevate black. Step on being straight to elevate gay people and trannies. Step of meat eaters, step on people who drive cars, step... They fucking hate everyone and everything don't they? Is it so weird people protest this? According to these guys we're the biggest pieces of human filth. And what have we done to deserve that? should we so readily support these clowns? 
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 08:57 Post subject: |
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Its funny isn't it. Here we sit and watch these lunatics pretending that genders are a bad things and oppressive. Preaching acceptance yet are the first ones to really look down on others. Very contradictive. They are true beacons of hypocrisy. |
Yeah, there are no one else on the planet who are so caught up with gender and skin color as these people, they take every opportunity to use it. It's like their whole lives revolves around it, their whole identity and purpose. Take it away and they are nothing. These people have no life, they have no purpose so they have to make one up, this wokness shit is just that, people with no life and no purpose but they still want the hero role, the knights in shining armor that comes to save us. They're pathetic and it's a fucking travesty that now games and movies are involved in their fucking scheme. They need therapy, seriously.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 13:10 Post subject: |
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I don't get why you care so much about any of that. I couldn't give 2 cents about the rabid gender-specific advocates with their polarized and extreme stance that includes feeling antipathy towards heterosexuality (obviously that is a very small minority of people in those small groups.. they just tend to be the loudest and most noticeable).
I guess is a psychological phenomenon among some of the gender-"fluid" people as a defense mechanism against feeling different and alone in their confusion living in a heteronormative society which in itself is fine as long as there's acceptance and tolerance for those that don't belong to the non-hetero/gender-fluid (weird weird word) groups out there.
So in the end I don't give a shit about them or their cause beyond the idea of "live and let live, it's none of my business if they feel like women/men, are attracted to the same sex etc. etc. etc." and that hate (which is based on fear) against those minority groups get fixed.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 13:34 Post subject: |
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I watched the whole thing and genderpolitics has not been an issue for me. DSC is far worse in that aspect. The show is actually okish once you get used to it in the later episodes.
I've come to terms with the idea of a good Star Trek show anyway.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 17:30 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | I don't get why you care so much about any of that. |
why wouldn't i? i don't want games or tv-series, movies politicized and i don't want franchises ruined because of it either.
also this agenda is not driven by gay/transgender or black people, not for the most part, it's driven by very hateful and brainwashed white people, many who hates whites or so called heteronormative people, while still being that themselves. was it Jar Jar Abrahams of star wars fame who tweeted "No more white safety!", it was someone involved in SW at least lol.. fucking morons is what they are.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Feb 2021 18:07 Post subject: |
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And its likely alll virtue signaling. Fake shit to appear "good"
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2021 05:45 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | I don't get why you care so much about any of that. |
why wouldn't i? i don't want games or tv-series, movies politicized and i don't want franchises ruined because of it either.
also this agenda is not driven by gay/transgender or black people, not for the most part, it's driven by very hateful and brainwashed white people, many who hates whites or so called heteronormative people, while still being that themselves. was it Jar Jar Abrahams of star wars fame who tweeted "No more white safety!", it was someone involved in SW at least lol.. fucking morons is what they are. |
I wasn't specifically directing it at how shows become propaganda tools for gender issues. When it becomes overbearing I hate it. Big sci fi, fantasy etc. shouldn't be hijacked for a particular cause and take it to the extremes. But when it comes to those tossers in the (social)media and stuff like gamergate etc. I couldn't care less. I can't say I agree with you about the racial thing. I think diversity in movies and shows are fine as long as it's not driving a strong sociopolitical issue. I kind of dislike whitewashing and blackwashing though (ie. when a character that is canonically of a certain culture/color and suddenly used with an actor of different origins whether it's white or blackwashing).
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Feb 2021 08:55 Post subject: |
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No one has issues with diversity, we've always had that in movies, the most well known sci-fi action hero is probably Ripley. There are numerous examples.
What we have now, what we call "woke" is shows weaponizing gender, race and sexual orientation, story or how natural a characters feels comes second. I mean it's not always as evident as in Last of Us 2 or Batwoman, but even when they try to be subtle about it its fucking annoying sometimes. I guess everyone has noticed by now that blacks usually gets the high IQ / nerd / professor role. White men are usually very naive (or extremely evil) with a woman being in control, e.g Wanda Vision.. still, i can watch it because it's not as bad as some shows but it's clearly there.
I guess no one has missed the whole Johnny Depp and Amber Turd ordeal.. despicable what media is doing to Depp who's clearly proven innocent and Amber being an absolute cunt, still no one can take Depp's side apart from "alternative" youtubers (who will be called every name in the book for doing so, since he's white and male). No fan of Depp (he has TDS like all hollywood elites), but that doesn't make it right to treat him like that. Woke culture is very damaging and hateful, it's just a new "hip" label for what actually is both racism and sexism. It's not trying to fight racism, it's trying to make it hip again.
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