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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Dec 2020 16:52    Post subject: Frants thread about "wow, what?!" music


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Dec 2020 17:17    Post subject:
Found another that is even sicker. And that Domi on keyboard.. wtf!? Are they aliens?



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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Dec 2020 17:18    Post subject:
The DnB drums are awesome!


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Dec 2020 17:22    Post subject:
btw. reminds me of this band:



Heard them live twice.

The drummer is pretty good too.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Dec 2020 17:26    Post subject:
He's dampened every piece of his kit to get those fast snappy sounds. Playing in that ridiculous style would sound drown out by the ringing from the snare, tom and cymbals. He also added splashes to his snares to get that particular pseudo-electronic drum sound while keeping it all acoustic. And his sense of time signature must be absolute.. He must have that 4/4 going inside him all the time while he walks all around it on the drums with weird time signatures, "stumbles", switching back and forth between completely different rhythms and patterns.

It's not music I normally listen to but his drumming is just fascinating the hell out of me.

@couleur: yeah, that was really nice. not quite as far "out there" when it comes to the style of jazz they play.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Dec 2020 18:33    Post subject:
That is very impressive!

Tangentially related made me think of this lady.
The whole things is impressive for her timing and control of velocity. But the roll at 3:06, for me, is down right ear euphoria how well she does it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Dec 2020 00:03    Post subject:
Why the fuck is everyone in the audience wearing headphones?
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Sep 2021 04:12    Post subject:
Another Zildjian Live! performance, this time by Larnell Lewis, a legend in his field as a drummer as well as being a composer, producer and educator. He's also a member of the ridiculously extreme level musicianship band/band-community Snarky Puppy.





Larnell with Snarky Puppy where he's got a solo. He learned most of the songs and wrote the drum parts on the ~8 hour flight over from Canada to Utrecht, Netherlands where they recorded the album "We Like It Here" as a live studio session.. The audience (well, the few there are, most are either musicians or technicians/engineers for the recording and production) all wear headphones to hear the mix from the control room for the best listening experience:



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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Sep 2021 12:15    Post subject:
Really good... i'm an immense Squarepusher fan so i really like the drumming.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Sep 2021 12:19    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
i'm an immense Squarepusher fan


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Sep 2021 13:38    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
yes Very Happy


There's a whole genre called Neurofunk which is dark electronic higher bpm stuff with modernized/electronic funk ingredients. Not my thing.. It stresses me out with the high bpm and the often insane synth lines.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Sep 2021 14:52    Post subject:
I like "drill core" according to Spotify when it comes to which genres i've listened to the most, i guess both squarepusher and aphex twin goes into that cathegory since it's the 2 artists i've listened to the most on there. usually people just call it IDM.

Neurofunk borrows a little too much from dubstep, at least the songs i've heard, not that i mind dubstep too much (i can at least stand it, unlike a lot of people Smile )
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Sep 2021 17:58    Post subject:
yes, i figured that out already, it still borrows a lot from dubstep when it comes to the sounds. Drums are too straight, i like odd time signatures so nothing like drill core or like above. typical super compressed and layered snare for the genres too, also not for me..

i like my genres based more in jungle when it comes to drums.. e.g:

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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2021 18:44    Post subject:
Those drums (and "ahh"-sample) remind me of some of the stuff on a band (or more correctly an album) I really liked; FSOL's "Dead Cities" album, although their style is/was slower and darker/more dystopian or whatever you'd call it.




(that electric piercing synth sound was the main reason this song was never on my playlist when I put this album on at night since it was so jarring to my ears).

If you like odd time signatures/time signature changes:


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Nov 2021 21:33    Post subject:
Been ages since i listened to Dead Cities but it was a good album, their best is still Lifeforms imo, that CD i listened to a lot.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2021 13:28    Post subject:
Just googled FSOL and I was surprised to find they're still around and releasing music. I checked out their two latest albums, 'Yage' from 2019 and 'Cascade' from 2020. It's not my thing.. very mellow and they've pretty much changed genre to ambient/psychedelic as opposed to their good stuff from the 90'ies (Lifeforms, Dead Cities). I also noticed they used plenty of samples from Dead Cities here and there in different songs. They're like less melodic and much more monotonous versions of Vangelis "The City" (1990) album.

They've cut down on the drum beats and rhythms a LOT and dropped the tempo. While I do like some ambience (dark ambience: Lycia) and classic synth stuff (from Tangerine Dream to Front 242) this isn't really doing much for me. There are some cool parts here and there but overall it's not particularly exciting. Most songs sounds very similar as well which is the opposite of what they used to do on for instance Dead Cities. :/

This is probably their "hardest" song on their newest albums (mainly due to the sharpness of the synth sound):



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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2021 13:39    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
Really good... i'm an immense Squarepusher fan so i really like the drumming.


The coolest thing about JD Beck is that he's doing it on a real friggin' drumkit and has one of the sickest skillsets among modern drummers, mixing that electronic beat sound with some type of modern fusion/jazz/neo-DnB/hip-hop/whatever. He's putting cymbals and other things on his drums to get those unique sounds that create that super-snappy sound while at the same time killing the sound shortly after he hits the drums which is pretty damn important when he's playing those fast and weird rhythms.

His setup is so unusual as well.. two snares tuned very tight, one tom with a deadening object on it as well, taped cymbals to stop them from ringing out. It makes it possible to play those fast on/off beats and syncopations without the drums and cymbals drowning and becoming muddy, instead getting that ultra-snappy sound.. from an acoustic drumkit. He's one creative kid on the drums and is seen as part of the future top echelon of drumming. His sense of time and beat is ridiculous..

He's got an inner metronome that keeps going no matter what which lets him step waaay outside that ground pulse and change time signature all over the place without losing track of the main pulse which is a skill something only the most advanced experienced drummers share.

He's obviously a true prodigy:
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At age 5, Beck started taking music lessons at a small music school in Allen. After a few years of classical and jazz training, he switched to drums and enrolled at the School of Rock. He was placed in advanced band at 9, about six years earlier than most.

Beck had been a drum prodigy since age 8 and gigging since 10, mostly around his home in Dallas — with Erykah Badu's band, with the bassist MonoNeon and eventually with the experimental soul artist Jon Bap.


Just.... wow... Talk about a minimalistic drumkit. Single snare, single tom, kick, hi-hat and a ride cymbal... No idea what that thing on the tom is.. creates a unique "thud" sound when he hits it.


(at 0:37 is looks like DOMi had written PORNHUB on the front of her keyboard Laughing )


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2021 13:57    Post subject:
Then there's the Swedish band Dirty Loops, a trio of super-talented musicians; Jonah Nilsson (vocals and piano), Henrik Linder (bass) and Aron Mellergård (drums). While I don't like the soul/pop/gospel influences they mix in with jazz and jazz fusion, funk, electronica and disco, they've done some ridiculously cool stuff. The bass player is unreal although in the video I posted below he's not going bonkers (although his bass lines and skill are just phenomenal), this performance is mostly a showcase for Jonah on keyboards and Aron doing a RIDICULOUS drum solo at the end; and the tuning of that snare.. sooo tight and snappy. Jonah's high pitch vocals sound like a mix of Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson, not my cup of tea either.. but this song is showing off their skills (after a short intro with "normal" music):



For Michael Jackson fans; they recently did a cover/arrangement of Thriller which is pretty cool and Jonah's vocals fits the song perfectly:
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2021 14:20    Post subject:
If you want to check out Henrik Linders bass playing skills, check out this video from 2:18 and forward (I'm not interested in the soul-funk stuff before that):




Btw., if you're wondering why the frets on his bass are squiggly (ie. not straight) it's because the standard straight frets on a guitar/bass aren't perfectly tuned;

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The problem is that equal temperament isn’t perfect and depending on how you have trained your ears, you may notice it when you play guitar. Some guitarists never notice it or are never bothered by it, while others are constantly frustrated by it.

True Temperament frets are curved in a calculated way so each note is in tune with each other across the fretboard. True Temperament’s squiggly frets overcome the intonation limitations of normal straight fret guitars.


Personally I don't want True Temperament Frets since they make the notes sound TOO perfect. A very very slight "out-of-tune" sound makes the sound of chords and notes feel much more organic and "full" as if you're using a flanger/chorus at minimum setting so that it's impossible to actually notice that it's a flanger/chorus effect, it just sounds fuller than it would with TTF's. I can see how it would make a huge difference for players with a very serious sense of pitch that can't stand even the slightest note being 1/100 off. I hate out of tune instruments since it makes me cringe and it actually feels painful to listen to but my threshold isn't even close to those that can't even play with standard frets.


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