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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 03:00    Post subject: Recommend me a CPU cooler
So I have this shitty case:
https://www.alternate.de/html/product/1543335
(because my actually ordered pure base 500 with window-kit arrived 1 month late, so that I had already bought this one and installed my system in it)

My mainboard is the B450 Tomahawk Max, paired with a Ryzen 3800X and Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro RAM.

Currently I'm cooling my CPU with the Wraith Prism, but I'm in search for something that is much more silent.

So far the NH D15 seems to be great, but it is 165mm in height and my stupid case only allows for 164mm height of the CPU cooler... The beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 pro might be an option at "just" 163mm but it has only 40mm clearance for the memory and the Vengeance Sticks have ~51mm in height, so I can't simply push the fans up as there is no room left.

Water cooling is out of question.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 10:37    Post subject:
if you want it silent, don't get noctua. a friend has the NH D15 cooler and it's great, but not quiet.
my dark rock pro 3 has almost the same cooling performance, a little bit worse, but not much. but i rather wanted it more silent so im happy with it.

if they changed the mounting with the dark rock pro 4 and if it fits, i would say get it.
the mounting system on the dark rock pro 3 really sucks
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 10:46    Post subject:
I've tried the D15 one, it's noisy. I'm currently using the Scythe Fuma 2, of all coolers I tried (5-6 or so) this was the most silent one and cooled the best.

I'm not that fond of Noctua's for making systems silent, only their 14cm fans at low speed are OK, but Be Quiet fans are a lot more silent. My system is almost inaudible right now, just the way I want it Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 12:06    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
The D15 is overkill IMO. I have a D15 for my 9700K and it's not all that silent to be honest.

There's a Dark Rock 4 Cooler (non-pro) on my 3700X and it is near silent, probably the most silent cooler I have ever used. Plus it's 159.4mm so there's more clearance. I also use Vengeance sticks but I'm not sure of the height, these are the ones:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48318

The 3800X has a higher tdp than the 3700X, but from memory both coolers are rated for much higher than that.

Obviously both CPUs are different and it's not a 1:1 comparison, but for noise the Dark Rock does a better job I have found, particularly when gaming. It's cheaper too!

Apparently the dark rock are hard to mount, but the dark rock 4 sounds like a good option from the cooling perspective. It is also less wide than the D15 and the pro variant, so it might not even interfere with the memory. I'll grab it today. Thanks everybody Smile

But it's really strange how everybody says that the D15 is so noisy Surprised Also am gonna grab a Silent Wings 120mm to replace my noname backfacing fan. I already did some wire modding to slow down the front facing RGB fans, so that they are basically inaudible.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 12:39    Post subject:
Looks fine I guess?



Ofc it'll block the view on those pretty ram sticks.

Friend got a Dark Rock Pro it's pretty great. I have a NH-D15 chromax and can't confirm it's noisy at all. Every GPU I've ever had is 10 times noisier.

You could always get the NH-D15S

It doesn't have that second fan and a slightly assymetric build to help with clearance. But the middle fan does most of the work which I know from my NH-D15.

But at that point you might as well get a Dark Rock eh?

Shame you just about missed the notebooksbilliger.de black week where they sold the dark rocks for less.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 14:23    Post subject:
NH-D15 with Arctic P14 fans is silent af.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 14:40    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
The new Zalman cooler.

Cp20 something... idk.

Best in class. WC levels of cooling.

Also use a graphite pad instead of paste.

I will do so too, at the next opportunity.

Zalman? Aren't they super scummy and scammy? (see gamers nexus)

@Breezer_: Strange that I would need different fans to actually get that super premium cooling solution silent. Skippyty skip skip Very Happy

@Amadeus: Uff :/


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 15:17    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
The new Zalman cooler.

Cp20 something... idk.

Best in class. WC levels of cooling.

Also use a graphite pad instead of paste.

I will do so too, at the next opportunity.




those graphite pads?

I think the last time Zalman was best in class in anything their coolers looked like this

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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 15:25    Post subject:
@breezer_ : Ya replaced ya NH-D15 fans with something different?. Doesn't that cause weird noises or something with fan spacing with the rubberpads?

Vid with someone having issues with the NH-D15



Though i've asked on reddit whenever i wanted to replace my Noctua NH-U12S Chromax Black fan with 2 BeQuiet 120mm 2200RPM High Speed PWM fans and told me that there wouldn't be much difference in cooling and that it'd cause some weird noise (Though they didn't said if such noise would happen or not if you add the fan's 1mm rubber corner separators that comes with the box)

I say that because last week i've bought a back-tower BeQuiet! 140mm Silent Wings 3 1600RPM High Speed PWM fan and works pretty great for exhaust on full speed and though i can hear it it's not annoying, and thought of getting 2 120mm 2200RPM above to replace the CPU Cooler fan, but then the opinion was like "Nope"

Still, for the OP, a Noctua NH-U12S (Chromax Black optionally) is great and doesn't covers the RAM slots at all. Has a 158mm Height (below what your tower can handle) and for me on load (Handbrake encoding for hours) reaches 86C of the 95C throttling area. Same 3800x CPU btw!

However i've seen that a Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black is 160mm of height, on the official site, it'd lower the temps around 70C, unless you lift up the RAM covering fan a few mm, then it'd touch the window.. That, or get a 120mm fan to do the replacing job of the 140mm fan, but it might increase the temps a tiny bit

PS: Great old times with ZALMAN.. Used to buy their copper GPU Coolers with fan speed control to help up with the temps...


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 17:27    Post subject:
So for what i see it'd just shave off a few Cs comparing my NH-U12S to the NH-D15...Ouch..


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Jul 2020 17:28    Post subject:
Amadeus wrote:

I think the last time Zalman was best in class in anything their coolers looked like this


Ah man, I had the bigger version of that for about 10 years..loved that thing.
Used it all the way up to my 2500k worked great even on it.
The memories of always ending up somehow with a random cut on a finger anytime I had to do anything with it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2020 01:23    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
The D15 is overkill IMO. I have a D15 for my 9700K and it's not all that silent to be honest.

There's a Dark Rock 4 Cooler (non-pro) on my 3700X and it is near silent, probably the most silent cooler I have ever used. Plus it's 159.4mm so there's more clearance. I also use Vengeance sticks but I'm not sure of the height, these are the ones:

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/48318

The 3800X has a higher tdp than the 3700X, but from memory both coolers are rated for much higher than that.

Obviously both CPUs are different and it's not a 1:1 comparison, but for noise the Dark Rock does a better job I have found, particularly when gaming. It's cheaper too!

OK, so according to my phone my PC emits 40db of peak noise from 30cm distance during cinebench 20. Also my score increased from 4915 to 4966 Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2020 13:24    Post subject:
Yeah, I got the Dark Rock 4. It's also rated for 200W TDP (much higher than required as you had said). I have to adjust my fan curve though, it's still on the custom settings for the Wraith Prism Smile Thanks for the recommendation. Oh and it was a bitch to attach... but not because it's so complicated, but those flimsy braces can eat my ass and I really did not want to get the motherboard out of the case Very Happy



I guess it doesn't make sense to have the fan curve set in a way that the CPU stays super silent while the GFX card goes crazy Smile But the stupid spinning up and down during regular usage (some chrome tabs, youtube etc) is gone now!


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2020 13:49    Post subject:
Looks great!.. The only con though would be the hassle to clean the CPU Heatsink.. Remove the GPU, then remove the CPU Cooler fans, clean inside...

But still glad to know it works great for ya ^^


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2020 13:58    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
The only con though would be the hassle to clean the CPU Heatsink..


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Jul 2020 14:38    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Looks great!.. The only con though would be the hassle to clean the CPU Heatsink.. Remove the GPU, then remove the CPU Cooler fans, clean inside...

But still glad to know it works great for ya ^^

Thanks! Though I have to get rid of that ugly ass tiny ocz agility (128gb) Very Happy If I don't wait too long compressed air should be enough I guess. We also don't have a carpet on the floor, so dust generation is only dependent on the amount of rotting corpses in the living room.


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PumpAction wrote:
DV2 wrote:
Looks great!.. The only con though would be the hassle to clean the CPU Heatsink.. Remove the GPU, then remove the CPU Cooler fans, clean inside...

But still glad to know it works great for ya ^^

Thanks! Though I have to get rid of that ugly ass tiny ocz agility (128gb) Very Happy If I don't wait too long compressed air should be enough I guess. We also don't have a carpet on the floor, so dust generation is only dependent on the amount of rotting corpses in the living room.


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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Jul 2020 23:31    Post subject:
I didn't skip on the pro because of the extra 3 euros Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 18th Jul 2020 22:39    Post subject:
Dark Rock pro4 here on 3700x. Looks amazing and is very efficient


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Nov 2020 13:55    Post subject:
So what are the best kühlers around? Dark Rock 3/4? Or is the Macho still a pretty good choice? Confused


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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Nov 2020 14:06    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Nov 2020 15:08    Post subject:
Dark Rock 4 was said to be complicated to install. But if I can install it, any idiot can do it.


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