New hardware and impact of bottleneck.
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 16:42    Post subject: New hardware and impact of bottleneck.
So I finally came around and decided to upgrade. Here is what I got and I have a question too.

Case:
Fractal Design Define R6 Gunmetal

PSU:
850 Watt Corsair HXi Series HX850i Modular 80+ Platinum

CPU:
Intel Core i9 9900K 8x 3.60GHz (B 4,7GHz/5Ghz) So.1151 WOF

RAM:
32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3200 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit

Cooling:
Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro RGB

MB:
Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO S1151v2 Z390/DDR4/ATX

SSD (Storage):
1x 500GB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 32Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC (MZ-V7E500BW),
1x 500GB Samsung 860 Evo 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s 3D-NAND TLC (MZ-76E500B/EU)
1x 500GB Samsung 850 Evo 2.5" (6.4cm) SATA 6Gb/s TLC Toggle (MZ-75E500B/EU) (From old system)
No HDDs internally




Ofc there is a missing GPU. I'm just lacking the money for a graphics card right now. I'm obviously planning to change that over the course of 2019 (hoping changes in prices and what AMD will have to offer and how it will affect the market).

So I'm stuck with my old GTX970 for a while. I'm perfectly aware that it will bottleneck the shit out of the CPU but my question is by how much?

I'm also still on a 60hz 1080p display for the time being too.

Will I have problems running stuff at 60hz 1080p or will there be issues due to the bottleneck?! (Stuff like stutters.. idk, weird shit!)

I got experience with CPU's bottlenecking the GPU but not the other way around.

Thanks in advance.


2011 - 2016 Build • Fractal Design R5 Titanium (Window) • i5-2500K @ 4,5GHz • Corsair Hydro h115i • ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance • 2x4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9-4GBRL • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair RM550(W) PSU • 2x Samsung 850 Evo (120gb/500gb) •
2018 - x Build • Fractal Design Define R6 Gunmetal • Intel Core i9 9900K • Corsair H150i Pro RGB AIO • Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO • 2x16Gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3200 • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair HX850i PSU • 1x Samsung 970 Evo M.2, 1x Samsung 860 Evo SATA, 1x Samsung 850 Evo SATA •
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 16:54    Post subject:
GPU bottleneck is the most straight forward observable one in games. To put it as simple as possible they will all run, roughly the same as they did before for you.
Load times will be faster, and less 'hitches' and pop ins and such. But FPS will be within 5-10% or so of before.

For example, I think it was jaystwocents. Compared a i5 2500 and i9 9900k with same GPU, not much a difference once in game. the 9900k of course has consistant higher framerates, but not much more than if you just overclocked the GPU on the i5.

OF course your mileage may vary, but GPU is by far the biggest factor in games.


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 16:56    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
GPU bottleneck is the most straight forward observable one in games. To put it as simple as possible they will all run, roughly the same as they did before for you.
Load times will be faster, and less 'hitches' and pop ins and such. But FPS will be within 10% or so of before.

For example, I think it was jaystwocents. Compared a i5 2500 and i9 9900k with same GPU, not much a difference once in game.


Oh. Well that's totally fine and what I was hoping for. I just didn't know if it would cause other issues. Nameley even more stutters or anything than it was before. As long as it's same old, same old, that's fine.

Thanks.


2011 - 2016 Build • Fractal Design R5 Titanium (Window) • i5-2500K @ 4,5GHz • Corsair Hydro h115i • ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance • 2x4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9-4GBRL • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair RM550(W) PSU • 2x Samsung 850 Evo (120gb/500gb) •
2018 - x Build • Fractal Design Define R6 Gunmetal • Intel Core i9 9900K • Corsair H150i Pro RGB AIO • Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO • 2x16Gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3200 • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair HX850i PSU • 1x Samsung 970 Evo M.2, 1x Samsung 860 Evo SATA, 1x Samsung 850 Evo SATA •
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DXWarlock
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 16:59    Post subject:
No no, you will be fine. 970 is still a damn fine card for 1080p as long as you arent slamming every slider you can find ingame to max.
just didnt want you feeling let down you got all that hardware and went "shit, I went from 70fps, to 77fps average."


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 17:01    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
No no, you will be fine. 970 is still a damn fine card for 1080p as long as you arent slamming every slider ingame you can find to max.
just didnt want you feeling let down you got all that hardware and went "shit, I went from 70fps, to 77fps average."


Laughing

Phew. I'm glad.

And nah, like I said, I was aware that I will not see the true gains due to the 970. I made my peace with that for the time being.

I was just worried that it would end up even being worse than it was before because of some weird shenanigans.

Thank you.


2011 - 2016 Build • Fractal Design R5 Titanium (Window) • i5-2500K @ 4,5GHz • Corsair Hydro h115i • ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance • 2x4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9-4GBRL • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair RM550(W) PSU • 2x Samsung 850 Evo (120gb/500gb) •
2018 - x Build • Fractal Design Define R6 Gunmetal • Intel Core i9 9900K • Corsair H150i Pro RGB AIO • Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO • 2x16Gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3200 • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair HX850i PSU • 1x Samsung 970 Evo M.2, 1x Samsung 860 Evo SATA, 1x Samsung 850 Evo SATA •
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 17:19    Post subject:
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2018 17:27    Post subject:
No I got no display yet that supports more than 60hz.

That was planned to be upgraded with a new GPU. Was planning on getting one of them 144hz+ G/Free-Syncs. Depends on what's gonna happen with GPU market in 2019.

And the 60 is all I want. I just wanted to know if it might end up being worse due to something weird.

Feels good to give the old 2500K his well deserved rest. Best bang for the buck I ever had. Hands down. He'll be 8 years old in January.

I like to picture him as some old WW2 Veteran in my head. Laughing

Also can't wait till the build is finally finished. Shame that I can't shit money Laughing


2011 - 2016 Build • Fractal Design R5 Titanium (Window) • i5-2500K @ 4,5GHz • Corsair Hydro h115i • ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance • 2x4Gb G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9-4GBRL • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair RM550(W) PSU • 2x Samsung 850 Evo (120gb/500gb) •
2018 - x Build • Fractal Design Define R6 Gunmetal • Intel Core i9 9900K • Corsair H150i Pro RGB AIO • Asus ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO • 2x16Gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-3200 • EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ • Corsair HX850i PSU • 1x Samsung 970 Evo M.2, 1x Samsung 860 Evo SATA, 1x Samsung 850 Evo SATA •
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