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SirCez
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 Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 01:54 Post subject: Laptops vs Desktop PCs, which one is better? |
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I will be starting uni in 2 weeks time and i was thinking if i will need one. I won't be moving out and i've got a desktop pc which is fairly powerful.
I will be doing a course based on computer games and i will be working on things like character design, 3d modelling, 3d animation, audio production, script writing etc.
Which brand is better? The laptop should be powerfull enough to run current games at decent fps. The only thing that bothers me is the battery life. Anyway what do you think? Links to information will be helpful.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 02:49 Post subject: |
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With 3d modelling, 3d animation you will need a good video card and there are not that many labtops that come with a topend video card. so go for a desktop
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 04:31 Post subject: |
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Hitman02
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 05:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 05:29 Post subject: |
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proceessing all those numbers for 3d graphics and compiling your going to need a hella fast cpu which means the battery will be sucked faster then mad_max dick so go with desktop laptops arn't there for 3d shit
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JBrow
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 06:29 Post subject: |
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i got for pc becuase I never need to go and use a comp else where. if i need to use something like that i use a palm pilot and a keyboard for it.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 06:57 Post subject: |
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PC of course!
Starting with the fact that you can alter any component you like (cpu, motherboard etc.)
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SirCez
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razor1394
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2004 18:24 Post subject: |
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If you are not in need of moving the computer or flexible computing go for a desktop. It's much cheeper and you don't have to bother about battery life.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 00:18 Post subject: |
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Desktop...they can play ALL games and Apps...for portability..buy a Game Boy!
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SirCez
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 01:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 09:13 Post subject: |
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SirCez... you are one crazy dude.
Buy a desktop any time. Gaming laptops are big lumps of lead which are still way behind.
Example, I have recently bought a Dell 9100 gaming laptop costing £1600 and a Dell 4700 with all the Bells and whistles for just £800 minus the monitor.
The desktop has P4 3.06, PCI express x16, 160GB ATA drive, X800 ATI graphics and 1 gig of ram. 2003 3D Mark: 7996. The new Dell gaming laptop dosn't even come close to this spec and cost twice the amount.
Like your good self, I also do 3D modelling. I recently worked as an Art Director for a major UK games developer, and now free lance from home.
I've done a lot of research into this and can quite honestly tell you that despite big strides in technology, notebooks are still too big, too power hungry and not powerfull enough for demanding aplications such as Maya, Max and so on. As suggested by a large capacity USB stick. It's what I do!
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TheDamned
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 14:06 Post subject: |
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Most of my buds at uni has both, one laptop for school and one home PC...
You should do it if you can afford it.
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 16:14 Post subject: |
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| fishslice wrote: | SirCez... you are one crazy dude.
Buy a desktop any time. Gaming laptops are big lumps of lead which are still way behind.
Example, I have recently bought a Dell 9100 gaming laptop costing £1600 and a Dell 4700 with all the Bells and whistles for just £800 minus the monitor.
The desktop has P4 3.06, PCI express x16, 160GB ATA drive, X800 ATI graphics and 1 gig of ram. 2003 3D Mark: 7996. The new Dell gaming laptop dosn't even come close to this spec and cost twice the amount.
Like your good self, I also do 3D modelling. I recently worked as an Art Director for a major UK games developer, and now free lance from home.
I've done a lot of research into this and can quite honestly tell you that despite big strides in technology, notebooks are still too big, too power hungry and not powerfull enough for demanding aplications such as Maya, Max and so on. As suggested by a large capacity USB stick. It's what I do! |
ummm dell?????
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SirCez
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 16:21 Post subject: |
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Thanks guys, I think I should wait and see. If I really need one I'm going to buy one, else i'm just going to upgrade the CPU of my current PC from P4 2.6 to 3.6 and the Radeon 9600 pro to Nvidia 6800 GT. I already have 1 Gig of ram Dual channel and I'll buy a large capacity USB stick. I think upgrading some of the components will help me as i will be dealing with 3d modelling and animations. Do you think i should proceed with this idea?
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SirCez
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 16:29 Post subject: |
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One little question. When rendering 3D animations etc. does the graphics card help or is it completely CPU reliant ?
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 19:03 Post subject: |
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| SirCez wrote: | | One little question. When rendering 3D animations etc. does the graphics card help or is it completely CPU reliant ? |
Main RAM, if in doubt add more memory! and then double that and add more still.
Proffesional studios render with gigs of ram... render farms using 4x250GB 8MB cache is not uncommon.
At home 1 gig is hardly usefull, and some new consumer boards easily go up to 4-5 gig.
Generally your graphics controller is only usefull for drawing highly optimised 3D games in direct X or open GL, but useless at post rendering from Max or Maya.
This is a common misconception even to artists working in games industry studios who often bleat on about how useless there 3D cards are, so you'll see little benefit in buying high end consumer boards.
CPU speed does improve ray tracing and othe rpost effects rendering, soa fast CPU is not a bad idea, although not crucial.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 19:14 Post subject: |
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| MAD_MAX333 wrote: | | fishslice wrote: | SirCez... you are one crazy dude.
Buy a desktop any time. Gaming laptops are big lumps of lead which are still way behind.
Example, I have recently bought a Dell 9100 gaming laptop costing £1600 and a Dell 4700 with all the Bells and whistles for just £800 minus the monitor.
The desktop has P4 3.06, PCI express x16, 160GB ATA drive, X800 ATI graphics and 1 gig of ram. 2003 3D Mark: 7996. The new Dell gaming laptop dosn't even come close to this spec and cost twice the amount.
Like your good self, I also do 3D modelling. I recently worked as an Art Director for a major UK games developer, and now free lance from home.
I've done a lot of research into this and can quite honestly tell you that despite big strides in technology, notebooks are still too big, too power hungry and not powerfull enough for demanding aplications such as Maya, Max and so on. As suggested by a large capacity USB stick. It's what I do! |
ummm dell????? |
and your point is?
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2004 22:28 Post subject: |
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dell is crap when it comes to desktop replacers???? my laptop is kinda old now it has a gig of ddr400 ram, pen 4 3.0 and a 9600 pro turbo...... the new ones have a 9800xt pro and the x800 will make a mobile one in a few months so desktop replacers are just as good and save space too
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2004 00:04 Post subject: |
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Ive got a Dell 8400 - P4 3.4HT 800FSB, 2GB of 400DDR, ATI Radeon9800PRO -thru a price error..(basically paid $320 including NEC 2500DVD, DVDRom, 250GB ATA HD,USB Key)...Anyways..I always build my one pcs .but a deal like this nobody will refuse..This Dell is on 24/7- never a problem. and it works all from 1 fan! they are designed well. I am suprised..I would not buy another dell (unless a deal like this comes along)...but dell should be rating near the top in pre-built desktops...
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razor1394
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2004 10:57 Post subject: |
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Dell desktop replacers are not crap. I know many friends who are using them and they work ok. Sometimes thing break up but hey, they often replace it and they are pretty much bang for the buck.
BTW, shouldn't this thread/poll be in the hardware section?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2004 12:46 Post subject: |
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it all depends how much cash u have.
If u have heaps.. just get a good laptop with a 9800.
Or if u on a budget and u transport your comp heaps and also do 3d modelling etc (Like me)... i bought a LCD with a LCD carry thing... and a mini computer..
Thats what i did.. and i transport my comp every day
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