PSU fan speed/noise normal?
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 16:19    Post subject: PSU fan speed/noise normal?
I have just identified the loudest fan in my system, the PSU.

It sounds to be running at full speed after a very short time of gaming.

6700k CPU under 40c - 980Ti GPU under 70c all system fans and cpu fans running pretty much silent.

I have an Akasa Venom 750 watt modular PSU.

Is this normal or do you think it is on it's way out struggling?

This happens say after 2 laps in Project cars as an example
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 17:16    Post subject:
is it maybe dusty?
i had it too with 980ti and gtx780 then again i have SeaSonic S12II 520 which is like 5 years old so it was probably struggling, plus i had to modify one of the 6 pin into 8 pin to start the card, no crashes or performance issues however, but yeah pCars and maxed out ACS gave me loud psu fan
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 17:30    Post subject:
How old is it? Personally I'm not aware of any quality PSU from Akasa. Regardless of that I suggest you to replace it with a new one if your current one is more than than 4 years old.


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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 19:05    Post subject:
It's a couple of years old now.

I've given it a blast out (careful) with compressed air and i have turned it around to exhaust into the case.

I'm not convinced there is enough clearance under my case to have it pushing air out from underneath efficiently. Also swapped plugs into different rails to test.

Will let you know what happens. Can you guys recommend a good high end PSU, i think a 850 Watt will be enough, i'm not planning on SLI.
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 19:13    Post subject:
i got this. more then enough power, high quality and totally quiet. i can't hear it at all.
btw i think 850 watt is way too much. even 630 watt is already too much probably. (but it's even cheaper then the 600 watt version etc, so why not)

https://www.amazon.de/quiet-Pure-Power-L8-CM-630W-Netzteil/dp/B005JRGVBQ
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 19:22    Post subject:
bronze is not exactly a high end
i'd go with Seasonic G650 650W 80+ Gold or Seasonic Platinum Series 660
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 19:29    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
bronze is not exactly a high end
i'd go with Seasonic G650 650W 80+ Gold or Seasonic Platinum Series 660

oh i thought this would come from stige but im fine with you too. it's more then enough and still "high end". a psu shouldn't be cheap shit but it doesn't need to cost 150 euros neither.
there is a reason the bequiet is on nr 1 in bestselling psu's on amazon. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 19:37    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
bronze is not exactly a high end
i'd go with Seasonic G650 650W 80+ Gold or Seasonic Platinum Series 660

oh i thought this would come from stige but im fine with you too. it's more then enough and still "high end". a psu shouldn't be cheap shit but it doesn't need to cost 150 euros neither.
there is a reason the bequiet is on nr 1 in bestselling psu's on amazon. Laughing


hmmm he did said high end, gold and platminus are high end, bronze is not

Seasonic G650 650W 80+ Gold costs only 15 euro more than what you posted

https://www.amazon.de/Seasonic-Certified-Modular-Power-Supply/dp/B00918N4A0/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1468084866&sr=1-2-fkmr0&keywords=Seasonic+G-series+650

personally i would never pay more than 50 euro for bronze
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 19:51    Post subject:
I got my wording wrong, the PSU is now pulling in warm case air and blowing out of the rear.

Before i had fan down under case pulling in air. I've been running 3D Mark and the PSU has not made a sound so far.

Maybe a bad rail? i'll test Project cars later. My PSU is rated at over 80% that's bronze right.

Is 650W really enough for what i need?? I hope so i can afford a really nice Gold rated PSU Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 20:05    Post subject:
what case do you have?
650 watt should be more than enough for your setup, whether it's bronze, gold or platinum, you only pay for efficiency in this case
on paper your psu is pretty good 12v@62a, do you experience any other problems besides fan noise?
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 20:09    Post subject:
One of the Corsair PSU's I owned had a known issue with that model having a faulty fan controller, thankfully I had mine fixed after the first RMA but the problem with this was that the PSU fan was running full-speed all the time, if your PSU is only increasing the fan-speed during activity that would draw more power it's probably not quite the same fault.

PSU's also apparently lose a bit of their effectiveness over time naturally but I am not at all versed in how much of a issue this is or how much of a actual effect it has.

EDIT: Depending on model you can sometimes unscrew the PSU "shroud" though obviously make sure it's disconnected before attempting that and some models aren't easy to disassemble at all.
(Helps with cleaning them out though compressed air can be good too since it's primarily for the fan unit.)

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lol someone is just messing with the titles again he is not banned Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 20:34    Post subject:
It's an old In win case i got given some years ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108194

All fans have been replaced with corsair ones.

I checked and you are correct, recommended PSU is a 500 - 550W for my setup.


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When you get banned your title goes poof and banned is in place. An admin has to change it back. Ask a mod if you want your old one back... I always assumed you liked the Banned title xD


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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 21:49    Post subject:
i always thought it gets removed automaticly if you relogin after you get banned.
so i would keep it grale. it's something special Very Happy

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I always assumed you liked the Banned title xD

same thought here ^^
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.. I always assumed you liked the Banned title xD


Absolutely. Don't change it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 22:03    Post subject:
Grale wrote:

Is 650W really enough for what i need?? I hope so i can afford a really nice Gold rated PSU Very Happy


yea, you have an intel/nvidia combo, no need for a powerplant. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Jul 2016 22:14    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
It's an old In win case i got given some years ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108194

All fans have been replaced with corsair ones.

I checked and you are correct, recommended PSU is a 500 - 550W for my setup.


it's a decent case the only problem is that i see it has no legs, meaning if you place psu fan down it has nothing to suck air from, but you already placed it fan up so it should be good, in any case probably fan sensor had some dust on it, shit happens, as long as it's stable no need to worry
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Jul 2016 01:22    Post subject:
Replace fan with quieter type, problem solved.
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Jul 2016 09:07    Post subject:
After more testing, its still running full speed and getting quite hot!
I'm not going to fuck around anymore i'm just going to buy a new one.

Seasonic Platinum 660 seems suitable.

It's a shame they don't do a bigger fanless PSU, this looks interesting
Seasonic Platinum Fanless 520W

Although a PSU calculator says i only need a 440w PSU would i have enough headroom with a 520w!


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Jul 2016 12:14    Post subject:
yeah, you would be fine for a while. you would just need to replace a PSU sooner as it would degrade below the needed treshold much sooner.

650w is the sweet spot for single gpu systems as you get the comfort of longevity.

i'd look here if you want the cream of the crop.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1431929/psu-index-thread


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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Jul 2016 12:36    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
After more testing, its still running full speed and getting quite hot!
I'm not going to fuck around anymore i'm just going to buy a new one.

Seasonic Platinum 660 seems suitable.

It's a shame they don't do a bigger fanless PSU, this looks interesting
Seasonic Platinum Fanless 520W

Although a PSU calculator says i only need a 440w PSU would i have enough headroom with a 520w!

I have Seasonic Platinum 660, it has hybrid mode button, which means that PSU fan will not even spin up untill like 50% power draw or so. I have 4790k and 780ti and i have never heard my psu fan even starting up. I measured my power draw from socket and it was max like 375w or so.
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Jul 2016 21:43    Post subject:
I ended up buying a Seasonic X650 Gold PSU in the end. (in Hybrid mode)

Fitted tonight.... Silence... Oh the silence

I cannot believe all this time i have put up with the noisy hot Asaka. Playing Project cars for 20 minutes and it barely wakes up! All of the temps have gone down and the heat exiting my case has probably halved at least.

Happy fucking camper here Very Happy

Thanks for the help guys
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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Jul 2016 21:45    Post subject:
Congrats, Seasonic rarely disappoints


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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Jul 2016 23:29    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
It's an old In win case i got given some years ago.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108194

All fans have been replaced with corsair ones.

I checked and you are correct, recommended PSU is a 500 - 550W for my setup.


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500W recomended my ass
I have 4790k and 980Ti and I manage to pull 375W+ in stock settings from the wall socket for just the case
with a little OC you'll easily break 400W..
at least 600W for this configuration


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PostPosted: Tue, 12th Jul 2016 23:46    Post subject:
naaah, you should get a proper device to measure what it sucks. combination of the 4790k and a 980ti should barely reach 300w usage
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jul 2016 00:24    Post subject:
it is maybe nice to have 300 watt overhead but completely unnecessary
measured my setup today and it was hovering in between 325-350 with firestrike test
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jul 2016 00:34    Post subject:
quite accurate from me Razz the 290 should suck about 30-50w more (depends on the game/benchmark) than a 980ti
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jul 2016 01:05    Post subject:
i like the fact that 290 is rated at 300 tdp which it never reaches
the gigabyte version that i got also oc to 1040
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jul 2016 01:18    Post subject:
tdp != watt usage

its just a theoretical value which could be reached with all clusters etc working @ maximum (which cant even be reproduced with benchmarks like furmark cause in most cases its just impossible that every part of the gpu would work at 100% simultaneously)
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