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 Posted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2018 14:50 Post subject: The Wheel Of Time (2021, TV Series, Amazon) |
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| Quote: | Rafe Judkins, a screenwriter for Chuck, Agents of SHIELD and more, has teased the script for the first episode of The Wheel of Time, an upcoming TV series based off of Robert Jordan's fantasy novels of the same name.
As teased on Twitter, the episode is called Leavetaking, which is the name of four separate chapters in four separate books within The Wheel of Time series. Most notably, it's a chapter in The Eye of the World, the first book released in the franchise.
Earlier this year news broke that Amazon began developing series' based off of The Wheel of Time and Stephen King's Dark Tower franchise. Prior to this, it was revealed that Judkins had been brought on as showrunner for The Wheel of Time, and Sony Pictures Television would serve as the production studio. No release dates or casting details have been announced for the show.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/24/wheel-of-time-showrunner-teases-episode-1-script
http://www.wheeloftime.tv/2018/07/amanda-kate-shuman-wheel-of-time-tv.html
It could actually turn out great if certain conditions are met
- The writers shouldn't suck at their job.
- They must cut out all the filler bullshit Jordan wasted so much time on
- They must change the fate of some key characters (like my favourite Mr Crazy Padan Fain. The way his story ended was utterly disappointing considering all the build-up).
- The show must get a proper budget
- They must hire good actors
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2018 19:19 Post subject: |
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They'd probably need more than the billion they're spending on LOTR to do justice to WoT's magic, The One Power, since it gets so insanely OP over the course of the series.
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| Posted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2018 20:01 Post subject: |
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One Power? Pff.... True Power FTW!  or better yet... Mashadar!
PS I think it could be done with a smaller budget than LOTR is getting. 
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| Posted: Sun, 17th Mar 2019 19:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 11:41 Post subject: |
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https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/wheel-of-time-co-author-talks-changes-for-tv-lotr-comparisons
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Sanderson, who finished the final three novels after Jordan’s death, recently gave the Wheel of Time Reddit community some insight that his NDAs actually allow him to reveal. Amazon and showrunner Rafe Judkins’ vision for the live-action series may differ to how it unfolds in the books — to the point that it might be Game of Thrones-level polarizing for some fans. |
| Quote: | I found the mast majority of these decisions to be excellent choices--things that will give the show its own soul, but still in line with the feel and tone of the books. I can't say for certain, but my instincts say the fanbase will in general respond to them positively. There are a few I offered suggestions on, and we'll see.
I can't say too much, not just because of NDAs, but also because the show is very much still in flux as Rafe makes decisions on how he wants things to go. As the alterations go, I'd say they fall in line with positive changes made in bringing LOTR to the big screen--things that were altered in order to make the films work for the medium.
Overall, the thing I'm most impressed with is Rafe himself, who really seems to be guiding this show with a balance between love for the source material and his own creative vision. I'd much rather get this, personally, than something like the first two Harry Potter films--which felt like someone trying to bring the books to the screen with exact scene-by-scene recreations.
I'm certain there will be polarizing decisions made by the team, but the changes are coming from a good place, and I really like most of them. And let me tell you, the first of the two scripts I read was sharp. Excellent dialogue, nuanced characters, great pacing. The second of the two was in a rougher shape, so while still good, obviously was still undergoing revisions.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/WoT/comments/bs7pmz/some_information_from_brandon_sanderson_about_the/
Well, shit...  Of course he won't bad-mouth the script and these changes (I reckon it's radical feminist propaganda considering that the show's description focuses more on Moiraine and Aes-Sedai.. but I might be wrong)...
I just hope it won't be GOT season 8 level of bad
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 12:20 Post subject: |
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We live in difficult times.
We now have the technology to recreate these fantasy and sci-fi worlds we always dreamed of on the screen but we lost our ability to write compelling stories because agendas, agendas everywhere.
I have to admit though, the story in the books loses itself for hundreds of pages and different threads in some parts. So they really have to adapt that to work on the screen.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Jun 2019 13:11 Post subject: |
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Yeah, the books generally have to be cut and changed when adapted to Movie / TV format and it never was more true than in the case of The Wheel of Time. I love the series, but it literally has hundreds of pages of what could only be called bloat - meaningless stories, pointless character arcs and so on. The funny thing is, I actually even liked that in a way - it made me feel the world was really big and full of different stuff, cultures etc. - but I do feel Jordan went too far.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 16:42 Post subject: |
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https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/06/19/amazon-wheel-of-time-series-moiraine-cast-rosamund-pike
| Quote: | Amazon has officially cast the first actor in its upcoming Wheel of Time TV series adaptation. IGN can confirm that Rosamund Pike has landed the role of Moiraine Damodred, the character who is being positioned as the lead in this telling of Robert Jordan's iconic fantasy series. Pike will also serve as a producer on the show.
Additionally, Amazon revealed that Brandon Sanderson, who wrote the final three novels in the Wheel of Time book series after Jordan's death in 2007, will serve as consulting producer on the series alongside Jordan's widow, Harriet McDougal. |
I've never liked her coz I think she is not a good actress.
I wish they cast someone else.
On second thought though, I guess she could play her just fine.
Keanu "I've-got-just-one-expression" Reeves doesn't suck when playing specific characters, so considering the way Moiraine was described in the books, I suppose Pike might not be that bad of a choice after all
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 17:24 Post subject: |
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I always heard this book series was pretty feminist though. Either feminist or focuses on female characters. Well, obviously those two are entirely different. Agendas and such can take a hike. I simply won't watch agenda drivel.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 17:30 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I always heard this book series was pretty feminist though.l. |
You could say that
So, if Amazon decides to push it even further, then it might get pretty bad...
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jun 2019 21:01 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I always heard this book series was pretty feminist though. Either feminist or focuses on female characters. Well, obviously those two are entirely different. Agendas and such can take a hike. I simply won't watch agenda drivel. |
Strange comment seing how most of the fantasy genre is very male oriented. Or is that not a problem?
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2019 06:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2019 07:57 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I always heard this book series was pretty feminist though. Either feminist or focuses on female characters. Well, obviously those two are entirely different. Agendas and such can take a hike. I simply won't watch agenda drivel. |
...and they are also not very good. So hopefully changes to the script will make them better.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2019 13:01 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | I always heard this book series was pretty feminist though. Either feminist or focuses on female characters. Well, obviously those two are entirely different. Agendas and such can take a hike. I simply won't watch agenda drivel. |
...and they are also not very good. So hopefully changes to the script will make them better. |
Yeah it needs a script writer with a strong cut-the-crap mode.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2019 17:06 Post subject: |
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The story is good (not the first book, it feels kinda generic, but then it gets better and better)
Unfortunately, Jordan wasted so much pages on filler crap and describing stuff.
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Aug 2019 20:36 Post subject: |
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https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/wheel-of-time-series-amazon-rand-althor-josha-stadowski-perrin-marcus-rutherford-1203302153/
Perrin is just .... 
I don't like the cast...
Mat is the only one who looks more or less fine..well, maybe Rand too.
The rest though...especially Perrin..lol the WHeel Of Diversity..as if it's not enough what we've got in the books that are already very diverse.
I'm checking out their imdb pages and I gotta say this cast doesn't inspire confidence at all.
I'm getting strong Shannara Chronicles vibes just by looking at them.
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Nov 2019 08:46 Post subject: |
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I wont watch it. I had a very good time with the books and I wont get my imagination spoiled by this shit.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sun, 10th Nov 2019 10:55 Post subject: |
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2021. So far into the future that I have no interest whatsoever. Never read the books (for some reason I got the impression that Jordans books weren't all that good) but I did play the game a little way back when (using the first unreal engine??).
I'd rather watch a tv-series with the "budget"-fantasy writer David Eddings Belgarion, Mallorea, Elenia and Tamuli. I've always wanted to see something with Sparhawk. His fantasy work is very derivative but I remember enjoying the series' I listed when I read them.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Dec 2019 14:12 Post subject: |
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https://dragonmount.com/news/tv-show/castinglltp/
Jeeeeeesus...
OK, Álvaro as Logain is actually fine. And he is a good actor.
Alexandre Willaume as Thom seems to be OK too
BUT
Myers as Padan Fain? Get the fuck out of here!
| Quote: | | Padan Fain is pale, skinny, has gangly arms, and a massive beak of a nose |
Hammed as Loial? lol LOL I hope he will be wearing a mask.
Tbh I'd rather Alexandre Willaume played Padan Fain.
But, hey, I guess I shouldn't act so surprised and all... AFter all we've got a WOKE showrunner:
https://twitter.com/rafejudkins/status/1039940195129294848?lang=en
https://twitter.com/rafejudkins/status/1144966494087987200
PPS
Interesting
| Quote: | These casting decisions also appear to go against the vision of Wheel of Time creator and author Robert Jordan.
Back in 2014, notes from the Robert Jordan Collection at the College of Charleston revealed the actors he modeled his characters after.
Egwene was described as Audrey Hepburn at age 18. Nynaeve was described as a young Jacqueline Bisset and Perrin Aybara was a young Val Kilmer. |
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Dec 2019 15:17 Post subject: |
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* Just no *
Atleast write a reason and your name before editing or deleting posts outright like this.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Dec 2019 22:59 Post subject: |
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Tbh i came to the 7th book of the series and its not THAT great. Sure its an epic story, but after 6 books i can safely say that i could strangle 90% of the characters since some of them are so fucking annoying is unbelievable. What makes it worse though is that in 6 books not one of them has had any fucking character growth. Doesn't help matters that the author seems to think men are from Mars and women are from Venus and everyone acts like they are 14 and just discovered sex.
Anyway this looks like another shit adaptation that will tick all the progressive boxes and do fuck all story wise or new.
Now i haven't seen the cast before and i just checked it out now..... i'm not even going to bother watching this crap. I like the fact that almost none of the characters looks anything like i imagined it or is described in the books.
EDIT: who the fuck is this idiot and how the fuck is he the showrunner of this?
"As much as possible, our cast should look like America will in a few hundred years — a beautiful mix of white, brown, black and everything in between.”
OH FUCK OFF
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Dec 2019 02:45 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: |
I'd rather watch a tv-series with the "budget"-fantasy writer David Eddings Belgarion, Mallorea, Elenia and Tamuli. I've always wanted to see something with Sparhawk. His fantasy work is very derivative but I remember enjoying the series' I listed when I read them. |
Huh, the main thing i remember being outstanding in Belgarion is a very homely, cozy atmosphere i couldnt find anywhere else. In tv series terms the only equivalent i know of would be Star Trek TNG, which had a very similar feel. And i dont believe they can reproduce it nowadays.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Dec 2019 07:35 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | I wont watch it. I had a very good time with the books and I wont get my imagination spoiled by this shit. |
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Dec 2019 11:52 Post subject: |
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https://deadline.com/2019/12/the-wheel-of-time-cast-series-fantasy-books-priyanka-bose-taylor-napier-emmanuel-imani-1202816315/
| Quote: | EXCLUSIVE: Priyanka Bose (Lion), Taylor Napier (All About April) and Emmanuel Imani (Black Earth Rising) are set to recur opposite Rosamund Pike in The Wheel of Time, Amazon’s adaptation of Robert Jordan’s fantasy epic.
Set in a sprawling, epic world where magic exists and only certain women are allowed to access it, the story follows Moiraine (Pike), a member of the incredibly powerful all-female organization called the Aes Sedai, as she arrives in the small town of Two Rivers. There, she embarks on a dangerous, world-spanning journey with five young men and women, one of whom is prophesied to be the Dragon Reborn, who will either save or destroy humanity.
Bose will play Alanna Mosvani, a member of the same organization of powerful women as Moiraine (Rosamund Pike) — the Aes Sedai. She’s renowned for both her kindness and her temper. And instead of having one Warder like Moiraine, she has two — Ihvon (Imani) and Maksim (Napier). The three of them have a complicated relationship built on love, sex and respect that welds them into a fearsome force in battle.
Cast also includes Madeleine Madden, Marcus Rutherford, Barney Harris, Zoë Robins and Josha Stradowski. |
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Jul 2021 19:44 Post subject: |
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https://screenrant.com/wheel-time-show-release-date-november-2021-amazon/
| Quote: | | The same poster, unveiled on Friday at Comic-Con@Home and seen in full below, also reveals that the fantasy series — which is already renewed for a second season — will bow sometime in November. |
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