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|MaguS|
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Lol theres no chance EQ2 will be canned... Trust me the game is ready to ship as it stands (been playing it for a week now without a single crash, not even the original EQ can do that...).
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 20:14 Post subject: |
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lol with all the work they putted into this.... itl surely be a huge game..ofcouse to me its dumb paying just to play a game.so yeah everyquest2..u can go to hell sony, money grabbing bastards.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 20:22 Post subject: |
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Didnt know that it is almost finished.
@|MaguS|: Are you playing a beta or final?
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 20:36 Post subject: |
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Beta since final can't be final untill its released...
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 21:10 Post subject: |
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The Graphics are going to rule in this
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 21:11 Post subject: |
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thudo
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 21:17 Post subject: |
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Oh f*ing joy! Yet another MMORPG to totally waste your social lives and Visa bill on! Shheshh.. Gaming gone Virtual Gambling/Life Sim negating whats really important: the real world, women, travelling!! <sigh>
Never really figured about this ONLINE VIRTUAL GAMING crap - it's like "opium / macro-escapism for the masses" and needs to be researched how it'll effect future generations living in their basements to partake in fantasy worlds on a near full-time basis.
Gaming is meant for one-offs, sessions with an ending. MMORPGs are neverending and thus addictive PLUS, whats worse, it siphons your credit card to feed that obsession. Its like smoking for the brain - it eats at you over time by compromising real world concerns/aspects one is denying due to this asocial behaviour.
Just too much a temptation to live a role-played life! There isn't one second that doesn't go by that I'd love to be a part of one but there also isn't one moment I want to hear every MMORPG that comes out as a failure. I don't need that extra possibly diversion.. I already have many but I keep it real. The next generation will likely not - this is aimed to be truely super-addictive and exciting.
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 21:46 Post subject: |
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Hmm Here you bitch about wasting your time in a game while your wasting your time writing about it to people who don't care since they enjoy the genre...
MMORPG's major draw unlike Single or Norm Multi-Player games is that there is always something totally different to do and experiance. Being in the same dungeon with one group and going back with another can be totally different due to the others play style.
Since when was gaming defined as you put a short splurt of entertainment? I thought it was just about Entertainment and up to the player to decide when it ends? Don't most gamers/reviewers complain when a game doesn't have much replay?
As for being addictive... They are only as addictive as you let them be, I was able to play Everquest and was able to mantain a Full-Time job, GirlFriend and a 3.0 gpa in school... If you dedicate your life to a game and lose interest in other aspects of life, its you fault, Not the games. I don't mind spending $12 a month insted of paying $50 every two weeks (sometimes more if I buy for multiple consoles). While I know many on these forum's actually purchase games, The cost comparison is made to show the difference on honest gamers...
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fisk
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 21:55 Post subject: |
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I wonder what's worse... wasting time playing a game and having fun, or wasting time whining about those who are having fun?
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 22:12 Post subject: |
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| thudo wrote: | | Gaming is meant for one-offs, sessions with an ending. MMORPGs are neverending and thus addictive |
So this means that Sims, Civilization, pretty much all sports games and games with any type of multiplayer is "bad"?
Well, each to his own... But personally I like a mix of games with good replay value and games I play through once and are done with (RPGs mainly).
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 22:46 Post subject: |
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Being an ex EQ addict, I look forward to this game drawing me in again as the first one did. I made a lotta friends (and lost a lotta friends) on EQLive... looking forward to doing the same with this one.
I do wish I could get into beta. I have like three ppl I know trying to get in but we haven't heard jack from Sony. I suppose I'll just catch it when it's released.
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004 22:54 Post subject: |
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Public Closed Beta invites have not been sent yet. All testing is still internal (friends and family begun last week).
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proddan
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 00:06 Post subject: |
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Looking forward to EQ2 have nerver played EQ before
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thudo
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 06:11 Post subject: |
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Magus you bring up some good points. To each their own: that is what life and making decisions is all about. Its what you make of it that determines how the end-result of the stimulation will come to fruition.
All of my colleagues will NOT play MMORPGs due to the "lure-factor" let alone the fact it drains your finances like smoking/gambling does. Yer the exception to the rule: yer perhaps not "pacified" or as "easily diverted" as the commoner. This new phase of the gaming industry towards integrating virtual world and playgrounds is merely an extension of our creative genius like a hammer is to our arm.
When I talk to my colleagues (who are mostly over 28 years old) they don't even give MMORPGs a second glance: its just doesn't make sense to be absorbed by ONE game when there many can come out in just one month. MMORPGs is like a chore of exploration, I say "chore" because of the money needed to keep the game/your account running as well as the need to maintain your character in the virtual world.
Aren't games REALLY only there to have an end? What happens when a MMORPG comes out THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN END? It keeps going, keeps getting interesting.. Its like smoking/gambling - there is no end until death (smoking) or the jackpot (gambling) but in MMORPGs it can never end and you look back thinking: all those credit card debts and time wasted on what?
I can see your point about the online community forming clans in MMORPGs.. that is fun. I can totally understand the feeling of going coop with a group of fellers in a team against a massive foe. Yep... very fun. Thats a plus for MMORPGs.. but at least in "finite gaming" it has an ending and at the end of the day our credit cards are not debted.
Modern MMORPGs can be somewhat applied to the idea of the Matrix: (tacky analogy, yes, but the concept is frightening similar)... A virtual universe designed to distract one from the real one so as to keep the human chaos in check. Modern MMORPGs are for fun but subtly serve the same underlying purpose. Whose to say the next generation of MMORPGs are so super-addictive that it causes modern families to start calling for them to be banned due to their inheritent nature of social subversion?
I believe its in the nature of the beast: its just a question of time when it will happen. Creativity has no bounds but human ethics does. It will be interesting to see the MMORPGs of the future to see how absorbed we as a society will be involved in them. Somewhat scary to think...
This is all for debate, btw.. just some healthy discussion.. 
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 08:30 Post subject: |
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No games are NOT designed to have an end. I don't know why you keep bringing this up but a game that is suppose to have an end only has an end because THAT game decides that how long they wanted thier story to last. The length of the game is dependant on story, If the games story continues on and never loses focus then it doesn't need to end. Heck deciding that EVERY game has to end would also bring up the point, When? What would you consider to long to be considered right llength? I got over 99 hours of gameplay from FF6 and 7... How about My friend who still plays Madden 2004 which released last year or people who STILL play Quake 1 or even counter-strike? These games do not have an end so why are MMORPGs not allowed to have one?
If games need to always have an end then why does some TV shows never end? How long have Simpsons been going now? Should IT end? Or how about SNL? or all those other TV shows, Movies end and games end why not limit the run of the TV Shows?
If if you like the idea of a goal/end of a MMORPG go play "A Tale in The Desert" it actually ends and begins anew with a new story. Is that the best? Maybe but I like the surreal worlds where I can decide my own fate, not a predetermined goal/path.
Why does it not make sense to be absorbed by a single game? If that single game can offer a person more enjoyment then 10 console titles released in a month why is it wrong? Does the idea of a surreal world that a person can walk around in and explore or be a totally different persona in scare you? After hours at end of working every day I go home and play games in hope to be lost from the real world for a few hours, It releaves stress off my back and gives me enjoyment. Who cares if its a single game or 3 games?
If the game is built properly there is no chore envovled, Everything can be entertaining. Theres no cleaning or worring about going to the restroom (wow that would be freaky). Heck your character doesn't even need to sleep, so you can spend time exploring new lands and finding new creatures that do no exist.
I will state again, I would rather be paying a total of $12 a month on my videogames insted of $100+ on games I beat in less then a week. MMORPGs offer us a CHEAP way of entertainment, Sure it sounds expensive that your paying a monthly fee but you have to see how much a month you spend on single player games. When I was playing Everquest my game purchasing was cut more then half, the only titles I even bothered to purchase was Series I collect/love like the FF, Currently prior to EQ2 Beta, I was purchasing two titles a month... Thats $100 a month over $12 a month...
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 11:45 Post subject: |
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I mostly agree with thudo here...hes just stating this as his opinion...which I think is mostly true...for most ppl that do play mmorpg's they do become dangerously addictive...this may not be the case for everybody...but there are enough that it should be a concern for the future...mmorpgs DO require you to play for long periods of time...sure someone can play 1 hour a day and say they are having a blast killing rabbits and learning their newbie spells and such....but most ppl get bored of this very fast...they want what other ppl in the game have...high level characters with awesome weapons and armor that are fighting dragons and doing lots of pvp....this require huge amount of gameplay in every mmorpg ive played...
there is no doubt that these games are fun...but they do take over ur life...id rather take up smoking drinking and gambling at the same time then play another mmorpg
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 12:04 Post subject: |
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Beautiful screenshots.
|MaguS| you in US or EU beta?
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Supino
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 12:38 Post subject: |
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you have my support thudo and samtack10
I've seen people addicted
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 12:45 Post subject: |
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Im currently in the US Family and Friends Beta.
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Mutantius
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 13:34 Post subject: |
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U got contacts at sony entertainment???
"Why don't you zip it, Zipfero?" - fraich3
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 13:36 Post subject: |
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Yup, Friend works for them.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 20:45 Post subject: |
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| tr0n wrote: | | but given my crap system specs, I doubt I'll be considered. |
In the early phases they want people with all kinds of setups, so as long as you fullfill the minimum requirements you have just as big chance as everyone else. They want feedback on how the game runs on lowend systems as well you know.
But if it's so crap it is below req spec, then you're probably amongst the first ones they throw away.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004 22:41 Post subject: |
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Looks good.
MM's are an everchanging genre, and thats the draw.
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nightlith
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2004 04:42 Post subject: |
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NEWSFLASH!!!!!!
MMOrpg's have been around alot longer than thudo has owned a computer!!!!!! Oh my god! Look at what Multi User Dungeons/Domains (MUDs) have done to our society! Gamers are addicted to online gaming and our society is falling apart! We must surely remember games like Legend of the Red Dragon (LORD) and the terrible curse they left with us! Who knew addiction could reach us from the days of a 2400 baud modem!?
Seriously thudo, MMO's are just another form of gaming that has evolved over time. Just like people got addicted to D&D, they get addicted to EQ. And look at all the nut jobs who get addicted to shit like Sims?? That's not even online! Our entire gaming industry is addictive for fuck sakes!
Gamers today...jeesh. Open up your eyes people. Just because your life started in 1990 doesn't mean the world did too. It's very funny to me that when I started playing computer games, I was an outcast and called a nerd, then gaming started to become mainstream and accepted, and now I'm just embarassed to be gamer. -_-
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|MaguS|
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