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Ankh
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So i just bought some hardware, but im not sure if I did the right thing.
Are these any good?
1x Intel Core i7-5820K, Socklet LGA2011-3
1x MSI X99A Raider, Socket-2011-3
2x Crucial DDR 4 2133 MHz 8GB
I did some reading and I *think* I bought some good stuff, but most of you are way better on hardware than I am.
Edit: Not too late to cancel order though. But I thought it was a nice package deal.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 22:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 22:32 Post subject: |
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i would get faster ram if I were you.
ddr4 at 2133 is going to lower your minimum FPS in CPU limited titles/scenarios.
at least 2666, IMO as intel CPU's love fast ram that allows them to stretch their legs.
also, 16gb ram is a much better choice. sure, you can upgrade later, but 2 sticks is always better than 4, for stability and performance.
especially if you are rocking a 4gb GPU. many games will now use more RAM once VRAM is filled up. rise of tomb raider is a great example. the difference in FPS in VRAM limited scenarios with a 4gb GPU is up to 20 fps when comparing 8gb vs 16gb.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 22:35 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | You did the right thing.
I would have done the exact same thing if I was you.
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lol yeah well...it wasnt cheap. aprox 7200SEK so like umm.. €780 or so i think..
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 22:37 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | i would get faster ram if I were you.
ddr4 at 2133 is going to lower your minimum FPS in CPU limited titles/scenarios.
at least 2666, IMO as intel CPU's love fast ram that allows them to stretch their legs.
also, 16gb ram is a much better choice. sure, you can upgrade later, but 2 sticks is always better than 4. |
Yeah, but it was a package deal... it says "2x Crucial DDR 4 2133 MHz 8GB " but thats 16gb atleast. But I do agree.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 22:37 Post subject: |
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ah sorry, missed the 2x 
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 22:38 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: |
especially if you are rocking a 4gb GPU. many games will now use more RAM once VRAM is filled up. rise of tomb raider is a great example. the difference in FPS in VRAM limited scenarios with a 4gb GPU is up to 20 fps when comparing 8gb vs 16gb. |
My GPU is 6gb.
EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB HYBRID
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 23:15 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | Drowning_witch wrote: |
especially if you are rocking a 4gb GPU. many games will now use more RAM once VRAM is filled up. rise of tomb raider is a great example. the difference in FPS in VRAM limited scenarios with a 4gb GPU is up to 20 fps when comparing 8gb vs 16gb. |
My GPU is 6gb.
EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB HYBRID |
Yep, same thing aplies, just when you go over 6gb, and obviously the FPS drop won't be as drastic due to a wider mem bus, but with 16gb RAM you are covered though.
I still do recommend faster RAM. with ddr4 latencies, 2133 is budget level RAM, which is out of place with the rest of your specs. also 2133 vs 3200 ram, you are talking about a 10fps difference when it comes to minimum FPS in demanding titles. gta v and fallout 4 come to mind.
you might not notice it now while the rig is a beast, but a year or so down the line, those frames could be a difference between smooth and choppy.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 00:30 Post subject: |
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| Drowning_witch wrote: | | Ankh wrote: | | Drowning_witch wrote: |
especially if you are rocking a 4gb GPU. many games will now use more RAM once VRAM is filled up. rise of tomb raider is a great example. the difference in FPS in VRAM limited scenarios with a 4gb GPU is up to 20 fps when comparing 8gb vs 16gb. |
My GPU is 6gb.
EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB HYBRID |
Yep, same thing aplies, just when you go over 6gb, and obviously the FPS drop won't be as drastic due to a wider mem bus, but with 16gb RAM you are covered though.
I still do recommend faster RAM. with ddr4 latencies, 2133 is budget level RAM, which is out of place with the rest of your specs. also 2133 vs 3200 ram, you are talking about a 10fps difference when it comes to minimum FPS in demanding titles. gta v and fallout 4 come to mind.
you might not notice it now while the rig is a beast, but a year or so down the line, those frames could be a difference between smooth and choppy. |
Ill swap it later on  ta for advice!
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 15:46 Post subject: |
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get 2600mhz or 2800mhz ram, you are not going to get ram speed issues and still get stable overclocks, after 2800mhz, its pretty hard to get haswell-E stable. Im currently running XMP 2800mhz memory profile with 4700mhz OC on CPU.
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Stige
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 15:49 Post subject: |
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Breezer is right, with DDR4 there is actually a noticable difference between 2133 and 2600, it does start to diminish after that but there are still benefits from it. You should always get atleast 2600MHz DDR4.
Unlike DDR3 which sees no difference of any sort lol
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 16:11 Post subject: |
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EDIT: Whoops, yet another wrong tab reply.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 16:13 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=406665 / http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/100868/en-us
364.72
PDF release notes:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/364.72/364.72-win10-win8-win7-winvista-desktop-release-notes.pdf
Dark Souls 3 SLI profile added.
Win 10 fixes:
[364.54] System hang or BSOD on express installation of 364.54 driver over 364.51 driver with single HDMI monitor connected. [200181626]
[Razer Dock] Hot unplug then plug causes “Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered” notification. [200172155]
[SLI, Tom Clancy's The Division] Frequent freezes and pauses as well as low GPU usage result in low FPS. [1744361]
[364.51, SLI] BSOD when SLI enabled on 364.51 or 364.47. [1739730]
[364.51, SLI] In a multi-monitor configuration with one G-SYNC monitor and one non-G-SYNC monitor, the FPS in games drops to single digits if Chrome hardware acceleration is enabled and V-SYNC is off. [1719037]
Win 8/7/Vista fixes.
[SLI, Tom Clancy's The Division] Frequent freezes and pauses as well as low GPU usage result in low FPS. [1744361]
[359.00] PowerDirector crashes in nvspcap64.dll. [1708900]
Win 10 known issues:
[SLI, Street Fighter V] Performance drop (pause and play) observed when the game is played at 4K resolution with SLI enabled. [200172046]
StarWars TOR- Knights of the Fallen Empire hangs when in-game graphics settings changed in full-screen mode. [200169614]
[SLI] Blank display is observed on disabling SLI with two displays connected. [200168702]
[SLI] Unable to select the check box of an HDMI display to extend it via the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200163629]
[Luxmark 3.0, Windows 10 TH2] Display driver stopped responding while running benchmark LuxBall HDR (Simple Bechmark:217K triangles). [200153736]
Driver installation will fail if GeForce Experience is a selected component and the system is either in safe mode or without a network connection. [200151914]
[347.09, GM204] Blank screen observed on an ASUS Tiled display when system resumes from shutdown or hibernation with Fast boot option enabled from BIOS. [1591053]
[SLI, UEFI] Event Viewer error 14 points to nvlddmkm when the system is rebooted. [1309257] |
ok?
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 16:13 Post subject: |
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Also ankh, you are going to need 4 sticks of ram in X99 build, memory is quad channel.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Mon, 28th Mar 2016 16:14 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | JBeckman wrote: | http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=406665 / http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/100868/en-us
364.72
PDF release notes:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/364.72/364.72-win10-win8-win7-winvista-desktop-release-notes.pdf
Dark Souls 3 SLI profile added.
Win 10 fixes:
[364.54] System hang or BSOD on express installation of 364.54 driver over 364.51 driver with single HDMI monitor connected. [200181626]
[Razer Dock] Hot unplug then plug causes “Display driver has stopped responding and has recovered” notification. [200172155]
[SLI, Tom Clancy's The Division] Frequent freezes and pauses as well as low GPU usage result in low FPS. [1744361]
[364.51, SLI] BSOD when SLI enabled on 364.51 or 364.47. [1739730]
[364.51, SLI] In a multi-monitor configuration with one G-SYNC monitor and one non-G-SYNC monitor, the FPS in games drops to single digits if Chrome hardware acceleration is enabled and V-SYNC is off. [1719037]
Win 8/7/Vista fixes.
[SLI, Tom Clancy's The Division] Frequent freezes and pauses as well as low GPU usage result in low FPS. [1744361]
[359.00] PowerDirector crashes in nvspcap64.dll. [1708900]
Win 10 known issues:
[SLI, Street Fighter V] Performance drop (pause and play) observed when the game is played at 4K resolution with SLI enabled. [200172046]
StarWars TOR- Knights of the Fallen Empire hangs when in-game graphics settings changed in full-screen mode. [200169614]
[SLI] Blank display is observed on disabling SLI with two displays connected. [200168702]
[SLI] Unable to select the check box of an HDMI display to extend it via the NVIDIA Control Panel. [200163629]
[Luxmark 3.0, Windows 10 TH2] Display driver stopped responding while running benchmark LuxBall HDR (Simple Bechmark:217K triangles). [200153736]
Driver installation will fail if GeForce Experience is a selected component and the system is either in safe mode or without a network connection. [200151914]
[347.09, GM204] Blank screen observed on an ASUS Tiled display when system resumes from shutdown or hibernation with Fast boot option enabled from BIOS. [1591053]
[SLI, UEFI] Event Viewer error 14 points to nvlddmkm when the system is rebooted. [1309257] |
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Wrong tab, yet again. 
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