der8auer Tool for Delidding Intel CPUs
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 01:53    Post subject: der8auer Tool for Delidding Intel CPUs
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=148622



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He made it for Skylake but works with the following too. This makes me happy because I've been working up the balls the take the lid off my CPU to put liquid metal on it because Intel being the cheap cunts they are used a shit ass thermal interface on a 320 dollar CPU.

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compatible to Ivy Bridge, Haswell and Devils Canyon.


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 06:20    Post subject:
Nice tool but if I can remember correctly the price is about 70€. Reaction


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 06:41    Post subject:
now that's sweet ^^


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OrignalSpaceJockey




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 06:51    Post subject:
That is fantastic. I need this tool!!
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:06    Post subject:
so just using a razor blade is too oldschool and you should buy a 70 euro tool for it? Very Happy
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 18:42    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
so just using a razor blade is too oldschool and you should buy a 70 euro tool for it? Very Happy


The newer trick is using a table vice to pop the cap as your'e a lot less likely to scratch the PCB with a razor.

Also the price is as it is because he's only made 20 of them as a first run, once it starts becoming more popular and more people buy it the price will go down. It's a very niche product but, the way I look at it, I can try it myself with whatever I have around me and fuck up my 320 dollar CPU or I can just get this and not fuck up my CPU. Plus you could always pop up an ad to pop the caps for people for a small fee.


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Frant
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 20:39    Post subject:
No need for delidding Ivy Bridge unless someone is trying out some super-cooling solution for ridiculous overclocking. Haswell on the other hand..................... Mobster with a Fag


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 22:07    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
No need for delidding Ivy Bridge unless someone is trying out some super-cooling solution for ridiculous overclocking. Haswell on the other hand..................... Mobster with a Fag


Yes its needed, especially for the 3770K.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 00:43    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
No need for delidding Ivy Bridge unless someone is trying out some super-cooling solution for ridiculous overclocking. Haswell on the other hand..................... Mobster with a Fag


Ya I'm thinking about getting it for mine (Devil's Canyon) I guess there's a few out there that won the thermal lottery but I sure as hell didn't. Saw someone who de-lided his and used the liquid metal and temps dropped like 15C under heavy load.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 00:46    Post subject:
and whats the benefit of that? the cpu might live a few years longer, but that doesnt matter cause its in the trash before it even nearly could reach the end of its life. and for normal overclocking its useless as well, or lets say it doesnt justice the amount of work and money you have to put in
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 03:32    Post subject:
Rubber mallet and vice will do thank you Smile (as long as you remember which way to hit) Very Happy
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MisterBear




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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 10:36    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Frant wrote:
No need for delidding Ivy Bridge unless someone is trying out some super-cooling solution for ridiculous overclocking. Haswell on the other hand..................... Mobster with a Fag


Ya I'm thinking about getting it for mine (Devil's Canyon) I guess there's a few out there that won the thermal lottery but I sure as hell didn't. Saw someone who de-lided his and used the liquid metal and temps dropped like 15C under heavy load.

I used the vice only(no banging against the wood block) method on my devil canyon, scariest thing i have ever done to computer hardware, i never tought you need so much pressure to pop it, i tought cpu will explode and i'll go blind Very Happy

Anyway worked out just fine and saved about 10C(including lapping). Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 18:19    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Frant wrote:
No need for delidding Ivy Bridge unless someone is trying out some super-cooling solution for ridiculous overclocking. Haswell on the other hand..................... Mobster with a Fag


Yes its needed, especially for the 3770K.


That's a new one. The Ivy's are known to be cool (no lid-bonding issue as with Haswell and newer).


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 18:23    Post subject:
No, they're really not. Ivy-bridge processors are *infamous* for their high temperature and low overclocking potential, blamed largely because of the really poor TIM under the heatspreader.
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 19:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
No, they're really not. Ivy-bridge processors are *infamous* for their high temperature and low overclocking potential, blamed largely because of the really poor TIM under the heatspreader.


Hmmm, strange. Then Sandy was the last CPU (very overclockable) with proper soldering TIM. Can't say I have any issues with my 3570K but then it's the i5 non-HT version compared to i7 3770K. I keep mine at 4.5GHz with a Corsair H100i and temps/stability have never been a problem.

EDIT: I googled and it seems you're right; Ivy Bridge was the CPU where Intel tried saving money by using TIM-paste instead of soldering TIM between CPU and lid.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Nov 2015 19:37    Post subject:
Yeah, it was Ivy that restarted the delidding craze as the TIM was supposedly awful and the procs themselves put out more heat than the previous gen :\ That's not to say there are no clockable Ivy procs, that would be lunacy to claim that, but there are exceptions in every case - and my Sandy is one of them. Everyone and their grandmother is getting 4.5-5Ghz+ on their Sandy procs, but oops.. I just happened to get one that can't do more than 4Ghz without constant, random, BSODs relating to power.

Exception to the rule again Sad
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Nov 2015 00:03    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
and whats the benefit of that? the cpu might live a few years longer, but that doesnt matter cause its in the trash before it even nearly could reach the end of its life. and for normal overclocking its useless as well, or lets say it doesnt justice the amount of work and money you have to put in


because I love overclocking and seeing how fast I can push my stuff. Right now I'm stuck at 4.5ghz and can't go anymore on my 4790k because the temps get so bad. If I get that 10-15C drop in temps I can push it just that much further.


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Stige




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Nov 2015 00:14    Post subject:
Yup, I have a delidded 3570K myself, dropped the temps over 20C when I did it.

Miss those 2500K overclockings :l
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Nov 2015 00:23    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Miss those 2500K overclockings :l


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Stige




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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Nov 2015 00:23    Post subject:
Friend has a 2500K upstairs that I used for a month, ran it 5.2GHz stable and benchmarked it at 5.4GHz...

He never sold it to me...
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PostPosted: Sun, 15th Nov 2015 00:28    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Mad
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