Big upgrade first impression
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ragnarus




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:06    Post subject: Big upgrade first impression
Finally I decided that playing gamę on low with console 30 fps is getting really Old and decided to spend more than I should for my polack wages on PC upgrade.

So I got myself:

i5 6600 non k
Asus H170-plus
Asus gtx 970 Strix OC
8 Gigs DDR4 2133Mhz
1TB hdd (i needed space and couldnt afford ssd)
All sits in Zalman Z9 case which I already had and is powered by BeQuiet L8 500W

Im still installing, updating etc but im already damn impressed especially with how quiet PC is now, Strix 970 being passsive in normal non heavy gaming usage is amazing and even with furmark card goes to 67C max and with that temp fans spin at barely 40% and you can barely hear them. My cpu cooler is silentiumpc Spartan pro he924 which is a budget cooler i bought over 1 year ago for like 15 euros and with IT Skylake barely gets to 58C when stress testing and cpu fan at just 1200rpm. That for me is some quality stuff I didnt expect. Only that damn hdd is making some kind of buzzing, vibrating noise in the rack, despite rubber protection on screws but for now I will have to live with that.

Cant wait till I get everything sorted and can start testing games. This thread is for me to blow some steam cause right now im quite happy and didnt think upgrading pc can still make me feel like when I was 15 Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:22    Post subject:
It's a shame about the non-K proc, but to hell with that... the whole system is one hell of a fantastic build! Well played man, welcome back to the Master Race! It's an awesome feeling isn't it? Finally upgrading and putting together something special <3
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:27    Post subject: ...
Thanks guys Smile I know 6600k would be better but right know prices of that cpu in Poland are really f.... up and it was too much for me to buy it plus some good Z170 board, not to mention I would have to replace my budget cooler to make any worthwhile overclocking possible so I decided 6600 non k is the way to go and still a cpu that can be sometimes faster than oced Ivy Bridge and even Hasswels while being cool and not power hungry.

And yeah sabin its awesome feeling which I really didnt expect, being over 30 year old and still having this kind of emotions with pc is funny. We talked about this a lot with one of my buddies at work which also likes gaming etc. and a girl that also works with us was listening to use, after some time she came to us and said "you nerds" hahaah


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:29    Post subject:
Well done Ragnarus, congrats!! *one of us, one of us* Very HappyPC Master Race
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:32    Post subject: ...
Thanks ixi, now I can come to every pc game thread and PROPERLY bitch about poor optimisation and shitty graphics !!!! Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 00:35    Post subject:
ragnarus wrote:
Thanks ixi, now I can come to every pc game thread and PROPERLY bitch about poor optimisation and shitty graphics !!!! Smile


The mark of a true Master Race'r! Really, welcome back grinhurt
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 10:28    Post subject: Re: ...
ragnarus wrote:
Thanks ixi, now I can come to every pc game thread and PROPERLY bitch about poor optimisation and shitty graphics !!!! Smile


Laughing grinhurt

Build looks solid, i miss the feeling you have when building something your own.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 11:22    Post subject:
Well done!
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 12:59    Post subject:
what is the loudest component of the compter when not gaming ? I really want a cheapish silent thing b7ut without having to go with watercooling.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 13:38    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
what is the loudest component of the compter when not gaming ? I really want a cheapish silent thing b7ut without having to go with watercooling.


if you buy gear with proper fans you should not be hearing pretty much anything.

The loudest thing on my rig are the 120mm case fans. gpu, and cpu fans are both inaudiable.

you know how far pc tech has come when the loudest thing in a case is museum specimen hard drives chirping.

can't wait till I rid myself of HDD's even as yarr game storage drives.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 13:52    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
what is the loudest component of the compter when not gaming ? I really want a cheapish silent thing b7ut without having to go with watercooling.



For me it would be a rattling worn 120mm fan... about 5 years old and came with the case. Getting replaced at christmas with a Noctua.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 13:56    Post subject:
My whole system has gotten so much louder lately, the fans are old and there's a lot of dust.. I just don't have access to compressed air and the few places that DO have it in Norway are charging absolute bullshit prices Sad I'll try and bring some back from the UK in a couple months.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 14:00    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
My whole system has gotten so much louder lately, the fans are old and there's a lot of dust.. I just don't have access to compressed air and the few places that DO have it in Norway are charging absolute bullshit prices Sad I'll try and bring some back from the UK in a couple months.
CAN YOU REPEAT THAT A BIT LOUDER SABIN? I CAN'T HEAR YOUR POST! I SHOULD CONSIDER BLOCKING MY CPU FAN AGAIN


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 14:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
My whole system has gotten so much louder lately, the fans are old and there's a lot of dust.. I just don't have access to compressed air and the few places that DO have it in Norway are charging absolute bullshit prices Sad I'll try and bring some back from the UK in a couple months.


Aye, I thought the prices here in Sweden were also quite high to what I was used of (and somehow hard to find).
You could get a small compressor for the price of a game/3 overpriced compressed air cans. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 14:20    Post subject:
@PumpAction

Just disconnect your fan again, go back to passive Troll Dad

@Morphineus

I did find one place selling cans, an office supply store, and it was 119kr (friggin' £10 at the time before the NOK took a tremendous faceplant Sad) and it had all the power and splendour of a raspberry.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 14:43    Post subject:
yeah, those cans of air cost suprisingly too much over here as well. No way am I paying 15 euro for a can of air. I personally clean my fans with a tootbrush and a vacuum. Laughing

I have a friend that picks up his case, and drives to a gas station and uses the free air compressor's there to clean the dust Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 15:04    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
yeah, those cans of air cost suprisingly too much over here as well. No way am I paying 15 euro for a can of air. I personally clean my fans with a tootbrush and a vacuum. Laughing

I have a friend that picks up his case, and drives to a gas station and uses the free air compressor's there to clean the dust Laughing


If its close by that would do xD

I use vacuumer + toothbrush (they are free since my fiancee is a dental hygienist ) for the monthly/3 monthly clean up, but I always need to blow it out after 6 months or it doesn't feel right.

Getting a compressor soon since... it takes too much time and effort with 3 cases + also would be nice to pump the tires of our bikes with it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 16:45    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
what is the loudest component of the compter when not gaming ? I really want a cheapish silent thing b7ut without having to go with watercooling.


Right now pretty much the only noise is this kind of strange humming or delicate vibrating from hdd I lack better word for that, before I bought this new hard drive I had old WD 500GB hdd and it was doing something similiar so I wrapped it with kind of foam and put it on my dvd drive inside the case that eliminated the sound but now its back with new Seagate 1TB so I guess it must be some kind of case flaw ? But how come is it present even with those rubber things zalman is providing to "elminate vibrations" anyone still using "old" hdd technology with similar problem ?

Anyway noises like this become more of a nuisance when your card is passive for most the time, my BeQuiet psu is also very silent, cpu fan is spinning at load with 1200rpm max so also silent and apart from that I have two silent 120mm fans that dont go faster than 900rpm.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 16:50    Post subject:
better save up for an OS/game dedicated SSD. until then, you won't know how powerful your rig really is.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:07    Post subject:
nice rig, but overpriced sadly. ddr4 and skylake dont give a noticable performance boost over old gen compared to the price
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:31    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
better save up for an OS/game dedicated SSD. until then, you won't know how powerful your rig really is.


correct me if im wrong but apart grom faster loading there is no benefit from ssd in games? I know of other pros ssd but at least in games it doesnt really mather.

Janz why overpriced? 6600 has the same performance as 6600k of course without OC but is at least 70 euro cheaper than k version.

6600 costed me 235 euro, mobo 100 euro, ram 50 euro. At that price I cant do overclocking but apart from that my cpu has noticeably better performance than k versions of Ivy Bridge and Hasswels without OC. 6600 beats Ivy oced to 4.5 and in around 50% of tests it is faster thansome Hasswels oced to 4.5.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:47    Post subject:
ragnarus wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
better save up for an OS/game dedicated SSD. until then, you won't know how powerful your rig really is.


correct me if im wrong but apart grom faster loading there is no benefit from ssd in games? I know of other pros ssd but at least in games it doesnt really mather.
Uhm... what else would you expect from placing your game on your ssd? Better GFX? Better sound? Better storyline?






On a serious note, if the game relies heavily on streaming content, that will be loaded faster during your gameplay and will reduce shitty looking assets/stuttering. (which is basically just faster loading during gametime)


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:55    Post subject:
Not only that, but like 90% of everything you do in Windows has a significant boost compared to a HDD, even HDD's in raid.. Especially after some time (because HDD's in raid can be quite fast at first).. Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:57    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
ragnarus wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
better save up for an OS/game dedicated SSD. until then, you won't know how powerful your rig really is.


correct me if im wrong but apart grom faster loading there is no benefit from ssd in games? I know of other pros ssd but at least in games it doesnt really mather.
Uhm... what else would you expect from placing your game on your ssd? Better GFX? Better sound? Better storyline?






On a serious note, if the game relies heavily on streaming content, that will be loaded faster during your gameplay and will reduce shitty looking assets/stuttering. (which is basically just faster loading during gametime)


You are right I somehow forgot during gameplay traditional hard drive can cause some kind of "stuttering" when stuff is loading from drive. I would gladly switch to ssd but it would have to be at least 1tb one... I was considering buying 128gb which is more or less cost of 1tb hdd and keep my old 500gb hard drive but then I would be low on space since for some time I was deleting more and more stuff because I was low on space. So i decided to buy hdd now and keep more stuff on it and hopefully in not so distant future buy 250gb or even bigger ssd if something happens and their prices drop significantly.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 17:58    Post subject:
the 6600 delivers not the same performance as the 6600k cause its clocked lower, but that wasnt my point. as you dont plan to oc an "old" haswell refresh system with a 70 euros mobo + 250 euro xeon with mod bios for maximum boost on all cores would deliver better performance for the price (and ddr4 isnt worth it atm and ddr3 is cheaper).

im not saying your choice was bad, just saying i would have build the rig different
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 18:00    Post subject:
ragnarus wrote:
You are right I somehow forgot during gameplay traditional hard drive can cause some kind of "stuttering" when stuff is loading from drive. I would gladly switch to ssd but it would have to be at least 1tb one... I was considering buying 128gb which is more or less cost of 1tb hdd and keep my old 500gb hard drive but then I would be low on space since for some time I was deleting more and more stuff because I was low on space. So i decided to buy hdd now and keep more stuff on it and hopefully in not so distant future buy 250gb or even bigger ssd if something happens and their prices drop significantly.


Why though? It's just good for OS and a couple of games. Setup something you can use to easy copy/paste active/inactive games from and to SSD/HDD and all is good.
No need to save up for expensive big SSD if you're short on money Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 18:03    Post subject:
128gb ssds are useless now since the 256gb ones are most of the time only 10-15 euros more expensive. and 256gb is enough for os,all applications and 2-3 games you use regularly and which profit from the ssd
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Nov 2015 18:08    Post subject:
Great setup. The only issue is the non-K version but as you describe the problem you didn't really have much of a choice.

Using a fast 250GB SSD is a good idea for installing games and other intensive apps. They're not particularly expensive either. You could even look for a second hand 250GB Samsung 840 EVO (or 850 EVO) to keep it cheap while still getting amazing performance.


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