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Kaltern
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Hahah some of the utterly pompous comments in that test 
"FWIW, I got the first two wrong, then I figured out what to listen for and got the next four right. And my ears still feel like crap for the experience."
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2015 12:39 Post subject: |
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Nui
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2015 16:48 Post subject: |
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I got 5/6 with cheap CALs
The difference is negligible at best.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2015 18:30 Post subject: |
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Having an onboard soundcard and some vintage Senncheapo 201 made the challenge 100% democratic for me, in a way that they're all identical 
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2015 18:38 Post subject: |
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I get the sound through my nvidia -> hdmi into my tv and from there I have attached the speakers to the headphone out... and then I attach my headphones to the headphone out of my speakers.
Even if there is no sound, I here cracking and so on.
So I might just skip this test
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2015 20:11 Post subject: |
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I am dissapointed...
Got only 3/6 correctly and I wasn't really sure. Only coldplay song was REALLY obvious.
And that's very weird. i remember converting x3m and other scene music like 10 years ago to mp3.
And back then I had shitty audigy card and very cheap headphones. And back then I could clearly hear that 128kb is more muffled than 320 etc... but that might have been me doing shitty compression stuff.
Now I have fiio e10k dac and very good headphones Brainwavz hm5 and can barely hera the difference.
The differences only come through at some instruments/sounds. Some of the recording they've used are just plainly bad source material. IMO Only purest digital music can be used for comparisons like that. That's why it was easier to hear in coldplay song.
everything else that is recorded with microphones in a room will have some kind of hiss or random sound anomalies picked up by microphone. And it's even worse on old music because of tape/vinyl quality
btw. I have my dac set to 24bit 48khz
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jun 2015 08:10 Post subject: |
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I just did the test myself. Gear:
Xonar U7 (=USB sound card)
SPDIF out
speakers = Logitech Z680 (ancient now - 11 years old - but still great speakers)
I actually got 6/6 but I suspect it's because the 320kbps MP3 sounds worse than it should - I could barely tell the difference between 128 and 320 which is weird (except for the last song - in classical music, the silence you hear makes it very obvious when the song is compressed because the quiet noise sounds uneven).
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Jun 2015 12:28 Post subject: |
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The samples favor low quality.
For me at low volumes the difference is aubidle but quite minimal, cranking volume up it becomes clear.
Got same dac as KillerCrocker.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 03:50 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 04:17 Post subject: |
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garus
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 10:40 Post subject: |
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snip
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Nui
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 13:47 Post subject: |
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you have to listen to them for a bit longer and then the clarity or lack of it is noticable.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Jun 2015 15:57 Post subject: |
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| red_avatar wrote: | Audiophiles generally love the good old placebo effect.
I had an audiophile as a colleague at work a few years back and when I said that you could barely hear the difference between a losless and a 320kbps MP3 he called me an idiot. So, I burned a losless song to CD, then converted that lossless song to 320kbps MP3 using lameMP3 and burned that to CD too. I gave him the CD and said "okay, you take it home, play it on your superior hardware and tell me which is which" (he had said before that I had shitty speakers and that his speakers were great and would clearly tell the difference).
So he took the CD home, listened to it and came to work and went "You cheated! You put the same song on the CD to trick me!". So to save face (because he clearly couldn't tell the difference) he attacked me, claiming there was no MP3 version on there. He also then claimed that a CD would always sound better than MP3 even if the CD was made with MP3 files *facepalms*
So ... long story short ... audiophiles love to kid themselves. Just like Apple fanboys, they love to excuse nonsense to justify the thousands they blew on overpriced hardware. Like using a $500 gold plated cable because it definitely, for sure, sounds better than a high quality $50 one.  |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Jun 2015 16:13 Post subject: |
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You got 4 out of 6 correct!
Despite its bad rap, the MP3 is actually a remarkable feat of engineering, and pretty good at filtering out mostly the sounds you can’t hear. Depending on the quality of your headphones, you might be able to distinguish between the two MP3s, but you’re unlikely to do better without an amplifier or a digital audio converter.
I think it also depends on the quality of the "original" - I got that coldblay song totally wrong - all three sound horrible.
Oh, and my hardware is very cheap - turtle beach x12, no additional soundcard, just onboard.
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