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 Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 01:31 Post subject: Star Trek Beyond [script: Pegg / dir: Justin Lin / JUL 2016] |
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Roberto Orci was set to direct this but having never directed a single film in his life I was in disbelief he would be trusted with $200M.. and as of today it looks like he is no longer directing it.
http://deadline.com/2014/12/star-trek-roberto-orci-1201311255/
A replacement hasn't been found yet but a candidate is Edgar Wright, who directed a shot in Into Darkness.
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"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 01:32 Post subject: |
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More space sci fi is always welcome. Hurr durr or not.
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 01:44 Post subject: |
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no thanks, no more jj.
what the hell have you got against wright?! hes immensely talented, more so than abrams.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 01:45 Post subject: |
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I like them both?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 02:00 Post subject: |
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I liked the Joe Cornish rumour better, but Edgar Wright would be good too. Anybody but Orci (and keep him away from the script as well).
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chiv
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 03:41 Post subject: |
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what does that even mean?
if you want to start pointing films at things that have ruined the franchise, i present to you
the nuTrek films are better than we could have hoped for, and they dont shit on the originals because its most decidedly NOT a remake of the original characters. just an alternate version where the characters are all slightly gayer to adjust to changes in modern society.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 05:42 Post subject: |
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What ruined ST was introduction of time travel on daily basis.
And Wright >>>> JJ.
Star Trek 2 was pure derp.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 06:14 Post subject: |
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wright isn't >>>> JJ
you're mental if you think that. Just cause you like his movies more than JJs derpblusters doesn't mean wright is better. Star Trek is not a movie he can do justice to. I haven't seen him do a serious movie. Scott Pilgrim is Speed Racer which has now been replaced by Guardians of the galaxy.
Wright is very creative. Very efficient. But I haven't seen him do serious. Maybe that one episode of spaced where he did a nod to say anything. But other than that, not really. Star trek needs someone like Mann or the bitch who did hurt locker, or anyone who does war movies. It's a fucking submarine warfare in space. Going to planets for nothing really but it's all a submarine war movie bull shit. You need someone who can give you serious tension, serious thrill and proper action bits. Granted JJ can't do 3 of those at once (thrill and action - or tension and action), but wright can't really do any of those. I'd rather have him stick to something that can benefit from his creativity and his ingenuity, not something that he'll have to limit himself because it's not what's expected out of a genre he's thrown into.
It would be stupid. it'd be like having ridley scott directing a luc besson script set in monaco.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 06:30 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | Star trek needs someone like Mann or the bitch who did hurt locker, or anyone who does war movies. It's a fucking submarine warfare in space. Going to planets for nothing really but it's all a submarine war movie bull shit. You need someone who can give you serious tension, serious thrill and proper action bits. |
WaldoJ I think you should go back to sleep. ST was always about adventure, exploring the unknown and not space warfare.
And JJ is more of a producer than a director, only 4 full fledge movies on his account from which only first Star Trek wasn't a total disappointment for me. And I presume you listed Mann as a joke, I love his work but scifi isn't anyware near his style.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 07:01 Post subject: |
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I grew up watching TNG which to me as a child always bore similarities to underwater warfare. Planets were the undiscovered islands floating atop the vast oceanic cosmos. So yes they do have that whole element of adventure and discovery which is HUGE. But all the exciting battle stuff was always naval warfare type shit which was awesome to me as a kid.
And yes, mann was a joke. Kathryn would do a spectacular job imho. She can direct, she can build tension. She would do a serious take on Star Trek which would be pretty awesome.
I would hate to see someone as creative as wright take on something like star wars. it would limit him. It would just be a standard movie directed by wright. It wouldn't be a wright movie. Which is what someone who loves wright would want to see.
But I said the same thing about gunn and gotg. And i am still eating those words. Maybe wright could pull it off. I wouldn't want him to. I would love to see him do something new. Something original. Man has serious talent. Give him DUNE. he so could do DUNE.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 07:50 Post subject: |
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Also I think Kathryn bigelow deserves more respect than just being called "the bitch"... She's a really talented filmmaker...
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 08:15 Post subject: |
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bottom bitch then?
she's fucking amazing.
i wasn't a big fan of osama bin laden meets the guy from parks and rec movie.
but everything else she has done that i have seen was stellar 
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 10:03 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | what does that even mean? |
When they stopped being "nerd" and started being "dumbass" as the latest ST movies are.
ST used to demand intelligence from its audience. Now it's like watching a fucking Michael Bay movie. I'm not saying they're not entertaining now, but it definitely isn't ST anymore.
I suspect the same will be true with the new Star Wars, although that's not nearly as important in my book.
Oh and btw I don't agree with you on Enterprise either, thought it was great.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 11:47 Post subject: |
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I don't know about the original Star Trek movies since I've never watched them but Star Wars never demanded "intelligence".
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 12:32 Post subject: |
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| VonMisk wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | | Star trek needs someone like Mann or the bitch who did hurt locker, or anyone who does war movies. It's a fucking submarine warfare in space. Going to planets for nothing really but it's all a submarine war movie bull shit. You need someone who can give you serious tension, serious thrill and proper action bits. |
WaldoJ I think you should go back to sleep. ST was always about adventure, exploring the unknown and not space warfare.
And JJ is more of a producer than a director, only 4 full fledge movies on his account from which only first Star Trek wasn't a total disappointment for me. And I presume you listed Mann as a joke, I love his work but scifi isn't anyware near his style. |
I agree, ST was never about space combat. It was about discovering new planets and civilizations, in a spaceship that would make Mr Clean proud.
Personally, I also prefer more space combat, in a dirtier environment, hence why I always liked SW more. (original trilogy, obviously)
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 13:36 Post subject: |
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I don't mind if it is space combat if it was still exploring ideas in the old tradition of science fiction.
Taking present day issues and looking at them from afar in new perspectives.
Most star trek films were pretty poor at this, too, but none were as terrible as the new ones.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Dec 2014 16:51 Post subject: |
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Premise presumably got leaked but with a new director it might change. Here was Orci's premise:
| Quote: | | Update: Badass Digest is now reporting this afternoon that "the script Orci was working on saw the Enterprise, the Vulcans and a new alien race competing to get a time travel device. The Vulcans want to go back and stop the destruction of their planet, and the time travel schtick is what would allow Chris Pine and William Shatner to share the screen." If this is the plot of the film, who can say if it will continue to be as things shift behind the scenes. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 14:12 Post subject: |
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Simon Pegg + Edgar Wright 
But seriously, the cast is quite talented (Pine, Quinto, Urban, Pegg) and still we get such vapid movies. Hope if Wright is the director he can increase the standard of the third ST.
Hope the writers this time around aren't the Derp trio (Orci, Kurtzman, Lindeloff).
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2014 14:35 Post subject: |
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Kurtzman was announced as "splitting" from Orci to work on other things, Lindelof is working on whatever Lindelof is working. JJ, who remains a producer, is incredibly busy with Star Wars to creatively collaborate on Star Trek.
Orci was said to be writing the script with newcomers to the franchise Patrick McKay and John D. Payne, whose credits in the industry include fuck all - this was to be their first job in Hollywood. Orci was set to be the director making this his directorial debut.
Badassdigest since leaking the premise of Orci's script has since updated their article claiming their sources say that Orci was fired as a director because of his bad script. Paramount would rather not embrace Orci's vision and they are scrapping everything.
This means we are now looking for both new writers and director.
The film is important to Paramount because 2016 is the 50th anniversary of Star Trek and their unique chance to make a billion dollar grossing blockbuster ala Marvel etc if they play their cards right (Dat nostalgia etc).
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 19:47 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | justin lin dafuq  |
You'll be happy to know that he is directing a few episodes of True Detective S2 
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 20:35 Post subject: |
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Jonathan Frakes or bust! 
If you have to google the name, then you shouldn't be watching Star Trek.
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | justin lin dafuq |
Pimped out enterprise with space spoiler and fluorescent lights everywhere 
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 01:59 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | The_Zeel wrote: | | justin lin dafuq |
Pimped out enterprise with space spoiler and fluorescent lights everywhere |
Now you're just being a hater, I think it would look amazing.
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 09:23 Post subject: |
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Duncan Jones ain't happening and the rumors now are that Orci left because Paramount told him Star Trek needs to be more like Guardians of the Galaxy with Rocket and Groot etc and he wouldn't agree. http://badassdigest.com/2014/12/15/whats-going-on-with-star-trek-3/
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 09:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 11:56 Post subject: |
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How does this fit with the topic?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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