Downgrading my PC case
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 15:41    Post subject: Downgrading my PC case
To what? Cost is a big one, don't wanna pay 200€ for a case.

I'm looking for something that can fit 2x360 Rads in it but smaller than my current Xigmatek Elysium, which is just massive. And preferably something that doesn't cost a million, I don't mind buying second hand cases as long as the price is right.

EDIT: I could maybe live with 360+240 Radiators. I also don't have need for any optical drives, got 3x regular HDD and SSD.
EDIT2: My motherboard is EATX for now so I guess I don't have the option to go for the smallest cases that fit double radiators Sad


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Janz




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 15:48    Post subject:
maybe the Fractal Design Define R5? no intrusive design or gamer bling bling shit

Quote:

Water cooling compatibility

Front – 360, 280, 240, 140 and 120 mm radiators of all thicknesses (requires removal of drive bays)
Top – 420, 360, 280, 240, 140 and 120 mm radiators. (A thickness limitation of 55mm for both radiator + fan applies on 420, 280 and 140 mm radiators) (420 and 360 mm radiators require removal of the ODD bay)
Bottom – 120 or 240 mm radiator (Use of radiators in the bottom position limits the PSU length to 165 mm)
Rear – 120 or 140 mm radiator
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 15:54    Post subject:
i love my r5.
if you really want to find something negative about it then maybe the plastic front but it still looks nice and also doesn't feels cheap, so i got no problem with this.
only 2 fans @5v and i can't hear anything and everything is cool enough.
nice cable management, fan control, dust filter which you can slide down at the bottom, quiet, multiple hdd mounts which can be turned and removed how you want too and also enough room for fans and radiators.
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:06    Post subject:
He doesn't want a 200 euro case, but you recommend him a 150 one Scratch Head Laughing
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:12    Post subject:
Well Define R5 is 114€ in Finland.

It does look like my 60mm 360 Rad should fit on the top and then I can get a 240 for the front while keeping one drive bay for HDDs?
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:13    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
He doesn't want a 200 euro case, but you recommend him a 150 one Scratch Head Laughing

i paid 100 for it Sad

Stige wrote:
Well Define R5 is 114€ in Finland.

It does look like my 60mm 360 Rad should fit on the top and then I can get a 240 for the front while keeping one drive bay for HDDs?

yes that should be possible
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:18    Post subject:
http://support.fractal-design.com/support/solutions/articles/4000037485-define-r5-radiator-compatibility-chart

Does say you need to remove both HDD cages from the front to fit a 240 in it. And 360 on the top requires the removal of ODD cage.

So if I were to fit 360 on top + 240 in the front, I wouldn't have any space left for HDDs Sad

EDIT: PSU + 240 on the bottom limits PSU length to 165mm. Mine is 170mm + cables lol
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:28    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
http://support.fractal-design.com/support/solutions/articles/4000037485-define-r5-radiator-compatibility-chart

Does say you need to remove both HDD cages from the front to fit a 240 in it. And 360 on the top requires the removal of ODD cage.

So if I were to fit 360 on top + 240 in the front, I wouldn't have any space left for HDDs Sad

EDIT: PSU + 240 on the bottom limits PSU length to 165mm. Mine is 170mm + cables lol

if you got a 240 in the front and your ODD cage removed, you can place a HDD cage at that position instead. so it should work.
also there is a way to place a HDD cage right beside the PSU. wouldn't recommend it but its possible.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:41    Post subject:
Fractal Define S
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Danyutz




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:41    Post subject:
Romanian prices are ripoffs again it seems
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Janz




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 16:47    Post subject:
Danyutz wrote:
Romanian prices are ripoffs again it seems


nothing new huh? you can get that case in germany for 100,xx euros already. thats kinda cheap for such a thing which is already insulated (im quite sure thats not the correct term for it in english, but i think you get what i mean Wink)
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 17:10    Post subject:
No no, it's the correct term. Smile
About 110€ is what I paid for mine back then in Belgium (it's the R3, but same price for the R5 at the moment)




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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 18:04    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
Stige wrote:
http://support.fractal-design.com/support/solutions/articles/4000037485-define-r5-radiator-compatibility-chart

Does say you need to remove both HDD cages from the front to fit a 240 in it. And 360 on the top requires the removal of ODD cage.

So if I were to fit 360 on top + 240 in the front, I wouldn't have any space left for HDDs Sad

EDIT: PSU + 240 on the bottom limits PSU length to 165mm. Mine is 170mm + cables lol

if you got a 240 in the front and your ODD cage removed, you can place a HDD cage at that position instead. so it should work.
also there is a way to place a HDD cage right beside the PSU. wouldn't recommend it but its possible.


Yeah but if I have a 360 on the top, that means I cannot fit any cage in the top slot. Then a 240 in the front and the bottom 2 slots are unusable as well. And I'm assuming there are 3 slots in the front for these?
Any pics on how the HDD cage fits next to the PSU?

EDIT: I just checked and R5 is also upto ATX mobos. Ofcourse if I upgrade to Skylake then this won't be an issue anymore.

Breezer_ wrote:
Fractal Define S


Z77 OC Formula is EATX and it doesn't say it supports that. Not sure how it is in reality though if it fits.
EDIT: It seems R5 doesn't fit EATX no matter what so I'm guessing Define S would be the same.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 18:32    Post subject:
It seems this might be an alternative for my needs http://www.phanteks.com/enthoo-pro.html

My case: 230 mm x 618 mm x 663 mm (W x H x D)
Enthoo Pro: 235 mm x 535 mm x 550 mm (W x H x D)
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 19:15    Post subject:
Or just a random wild idea:

I'll get a new desk cause I really need one AND built the PC inside the drawers!
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 19:42    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Or just a random wild idea:

I'll get a new desk cause I really need one AND built the PC inside the drawers!

Laughing
Your PC will explode because of heat jam and your AMD card will play a big part in that firework man.


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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 19:58    Post subject:
Lies!

But like why not? It's not like it's hard to build cooling into a drawer and I can even have the radiator on the back completely outside to further improve cooling.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:02    Post subject:
but i wouldnt buy an expensive prebuild desk. just make your own, takes time but will be more individual (and you may have space to directly include a fire extinguisher Twisted Evil )
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:10    Post subject:


I need to keep my house warm in the winter!
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:13    Post subject:
Or you could do hot tub with mineral oil, place your AMD + rest of the parts there and enjoy.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:26    Post subject:
I was thinking of getting something like this for next-to-nothing. Make it fit the PC, cut everything up then sand it and black paint on it.

http://www.tori.fi/vi/25328448.htm
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farne




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 20:50    Post subject:
Why not a wall-mounted PC while at it?
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 21:10    Post subject:
farne wrote:
Why not a wall-mounted PC while at it?


I have looked at those aswell, I'm not sure I can do tidy enough work and then I think all the cables should be sleeved and all that. Might look a bit silly without tidying a lot of things up.
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farne




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 12:57    Post subject:
https://www.komplett.se/product/824390/datorutrustning/chassibarebone/midi-tower/fractal-design-define-r5-svart

I'm pretty sure you can order to Finland from Komplett, should be about 85 euro.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 13:42    Post subject:
wowser, thats a nice price
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Stige




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 15:30    Post subject:
What is that currency?

EDIT: They don't seem to allow picking a country on ordering so don't think they will ship to Finland. Might have to ask by email though.
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farne




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 15:41    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
What is that currency?

EDIT: They don't seem to allow picking a country on ordering so don't think they will ship to Finland. Might have to ask by email though.


Swedish crown.

http://www.komplettgroup.com/en/komplett-group/

"In 2014, the Komplett Group dispatched an order every 16 seconds. The Group serves customers in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Germany."
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Stige




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 15:44    Post subject:
Have to email them then it seems.

EDIT: Ah Webhallen is their store that sells to Finland.
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 16:37    Post subject:
but there ofc its not on sale Very Happy
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