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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 00:35    Post subject: New monitor around 250EUR
I am in search for a new monitor. All this time I've been using crappy TN panels, but as DSLR photography piqued my interest recently I am in search for affordable IPS monitor for displaying and editing photos, probably 24 inch (1920x1080 or preferably 1920x1200) should be enough for me - considering my budget. While I intend to play games on it, I tend to spend less and less time in games nowadays, so game performance is not top priority. I also tend to watch movies/shows sometimes when I'm not bothered to turn on TV. In short, I'm looking for something that looks good and is easy on the eyes (flicker free?). Honestly I have no idea about monitors, I only know my phone (LG G2) and relatives' laptops (IPS) are sooo much better than my TN. Laughing Thanks for any advice.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 00:52    Post subject:
If you can push a little bit more (300-320EUR) Dell U2515H is great. Very fast panel. High resolution is good for photo editing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 00:59    Post subject:
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 01:15    Post subject:
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Dell U2515H


That looks sweet, maybe I'll have to raise my budget a little Smile

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Dell U2412M


It doesn't look aesthetically that great, but I could get over it. But users complain about a lot of backlight bleed and lot of flicker (pwm+led). If that's true I don't think I'd be that happy with it, my eyes are quite sensitive. I always hated old CRTs under 100Hz, they would put so much strain on my eyes.

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Asus PB238TR


Not avilable in my country. Sad

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Asus VX279Q


Unlike the Dells it doesn't look like it has configurable stand (most importantly height and tilt). Considering it's only 45EUR cheaper in my country than U2515H which has configurable stand and is 1440p unlike Asus' 1080p, I don't think it's a good deal, at least not in my country.


Thanks for suggestions and keep them coming. So far U2515H looks like a winner for me Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 02:28    Post subject:
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 09:08    Post subject:
wouldn't exactly call Dell U2515H easy on the eyes, since it's only 25" monitor at 1440p. text will be tiny.
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 09:14    Post subject:
Right-click on the desktop, choose screen resolution and click "make text and other items larger or smaller" and then either adjust the font size to just change the text or drag the slider around to resize all elements. Smile
(Handy for 4K displays where the desktop might be a bit hard to read at that res but should work here too.)
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 10:17    Post subject:
sorry but anything that isn't 100% scaling in windows looks like shit / out of place / distorted. not to mention by doing that you are just killing your screen real estate (so what's the point of 1440p in the first place). and no, 125% or 150% scaling on 1440p display won't make it look like "retina", res is too low for that.
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 10:21    Post subject:
But not every app resize correctly (even some microsoft's own applications/tools integrated in Windows itself do not scale properly - for example device manager).

Overall I don't think 25inch@1440p would be issue. On the other hand fonts would look great with dense pixels. Sometimes I use 13.3 inch @ 1080p laptop and have no problems. My sight is alright, it's just that I'm sensitive about flicker etc.

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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:28    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
sorry but anything that isn't 100% scaling in windows looks like shit / out of place / distorted. not to mention by doing that you are just killing your screen real estate (so what's the point of 1440p in the first place). and no, 125% or 150% scaling on 1440p display won't make it look like "retina", res is too low for that.


I have not used it myself but have seen it recommended several times but if scaling is that bad then yeah that won't be ideal at all.


tolanri wrote:
But not every app resize correctly (even some microsoft's own applications/tools integrated in Windows itself do not scale properly - for example device manager).

Overall I don't think 25inch@1440p would be issue. On the other hand fonts would look great with dense pixels. Sometimes I use 13.3 inch @ 1080p laptop and have no problems. My sight is alright, it's just that I'm sensitive about flicker etc.


And if there's problems with program compatibility that would be a problem too of course. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 12:38    Post subject:
I believe Windows 10 should eliminate most problems with scaling current versions still have.
So U2515H with higher pixel density, or of the classic 1200p monitors the HP Z24i is good it is the only semi-glossy 16:10, all the others are matte.
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:03    Post subject:
What about Dell U2415 ? according to tftcentral they should be good also http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2415.htm

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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 13:12    Post subject:
Yes - Dell U2415, BenQ BL2411PT, Eizo EV2455... all are good monitors and perform similarly but have matte coatings. The HP has a semigloss/very light AG coating so colours appear more vibrant and the whites are cleaner.

20% Haze matte coating:


Z24i coating:


http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/eizo_ev2455-bk/coating.jpg
http://www.prad.de/images/monitore/hp_z24i/coating.jpg


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tolanri




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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 14:49    Post subject:
How well are those monitors factory-calibrated? I don't have calibration tools or anyone I could borrow them from.

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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Apr 2015 16:14    Post subject:
I dont know, sometimes factory calibration can vary within the same series - different revisions, some even have different panels.
Check the reviews (prad/tftcentral) for factory results, look for downloadable icc profiles - sometimes they work sometimes they dont.
Otherwise its best to manually calibrate with like http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ using monitor OSD settings and the graphics driver settings.
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