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 Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 17:27 Post subject: Intel's Silvermont/Airmont, i.e. Intel's all-out war on ARM |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont
These things are keeping me very interested recently, from the cheap tablets to cheap laptops to cheap PC sticks to very small cheap factor PCs, but also in higher end NAS and networking devices. Compared, for example, with Windows RT, Windows 8 runs faster on these than on ARM by an order of magnitude. Very low TDP and thermal footprint. Full x86 compared to ARM, running full Windows 64-bit (or 32-bit). It's clear Intel is selling these at a great loss in the mobile division, but the goal is clearer - full on assault on ARM, flooding the market with competitive chipsets and SOCs. And I love it!  With Microsoft easing up on licensing cost the the availability if the "with Bing" OEM SKU, the push of Intel is very interesting.
Silvermont (Bay Trail, Avoton, Rengeley, etc.) are 22nm, Airmont (Cherry Trail, etc.) is 14nm.
On another front, Intel seems is now pushing the Broadwell Y/Core M and Broadwell U as a higher tier low power CPUs/SOC, so these would be naturally the higher end mobility CPUs Intel has in mind. This will probably cannibalize the Atom line in the long run (I doubt it would go the other way around), unless Intel positions the Atom line differently.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 17:31 Post subject: |
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What about power usage? Todays devices get slimmer and slimmer and the fuckers don't implement any bigger batteries 
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 17:39 Post subject: |
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Related:
Intel NUC
Intel Compute Stick
Myself, I ordered one of the small boxes from AliBaba to test.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 17:50 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | What about power usage? Todays devices get slimmer and slimmer and the fuckers don't implement any bigger batteries |
There are two variants of the Bay Trail SoCs, Bay Trail-T and Bay Trail-M, which are very power efficient:
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 18:02 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Myself, I ordered one of the small boxes from AliBaba to test. |
What did you buy? I'm interested in cheap media boxes/sticks - like Amazon Fire Stick for example. I would like to buy something for my mother that can run XBMC or something so that she can stream movies to her TV using and I won't have to copy it on the external HDD all the time.
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 18:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 18:08 Post subject: |
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Nice, can you clean reinstall Windows on it from your own ISO somehow? I would be worried they put some crapware in there or somehow tamper with it.
Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.6 GHz | Asus Z170 Pro Gaming | Corsair Vengenace LPX 16GB DDR4 3200 MHz | MSI GeForce GTX 1080 FE | Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB + 250 GB | EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 | Fractal Design Define R5 | Noctua NH-D14
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2015 18:11 Post subject: |
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There is a recovery partition as well, as you can install from your own USB. I don't think you'll be able to install the "with Bing" variant it comes with, but it doesn't really matter.
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2015 19:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2015 08:35 Post subject: |
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Any tips on which Bay-Trail tablet to get? Looking for at least one with 2 GB ram and 32 GB storage though the mentioned specs can be better.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2015 12:45 Post subject: |
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TrekStor 99743 SurfTab wintron 10.1 is cheapest 10", under 200 euros atm (Intel Atom Z3735F, 1,8GHz, 2GB RAM, 32GB HDD, Win 8)
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2015 14:16 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2015 15:12 Post subject: |
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as always for this chinastuff: if something happens with the device you can throw it away or wait years for their support. but from the datasheet its good and very cheap
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2015 16:28 Post subject: |
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| Janz wrote: | | as always for this chinastuff: if something happens with the device you can throw it away or wait years for their support. but from the datasheet its good and very cheap |
Yeah I'm aware of that.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 12:31 Post subject: |
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I need something small, light and cheap, running win and no atom?
with keyboard pref
for my parents to run light stuff on it
there is a program my mother uses that can't run on atom, or the win that comes with atom or something
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 12:40 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | there is a program my mother uses that can't run on atom, or the win that comes with atom or something |
What's that? With modern Atoms, it makes no sense. |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 12:47 Post subject: |
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something about an internet certificate she uses to sign her finance documents, she sends to the state, and it can't be installed unless it's a full OS or something
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 12:53 Post subject: |
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Windows 8.1 runs on Atoms. You have no idea what you are talking about. |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 12:57 Post subject: |
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still, I need something with i3
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 12:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 13:02 Post subject: |
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it has to be a tablet/laptop, something that can be carried around all day
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Mar 2015 15:54 Post subject: |
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surface 3 pro, but thats expensive. if you are ok with an atom (the new ones arent that bad) get an asus transformer book
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