Bad compression (colorwise) on some bluray rips?
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russ80




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Jun 2017 10:51    Post subject: Bad compression (colorwise) on some bluray rips?
I've been noticing this a bit lately. Seems like on some blurays ( latest offender being the great wall) some dark scenes can have slightly weird hues/bit too oversaturated faces etc while playing them on my tv. Figured hey .. might be the tv player/processing but then did the same on my pc+ monitor and noticed the same issues.

However checking yt trailers containing same scenes show proper colors with no weird hues/oversaturation).

So what gives? The 40gb to 10gb bluray rip compression messes up colors? Thought only clarity was lost in most cases and maybe some blocking, but colors too?

Thanks.


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monk3ybusin3ss




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Jun 2017 14:59    Post subject:
When it comes to proper colors, look up the user kingkong650 on google.
His regraded versions are magnificent.

JohnWick

Blu-ray 1:


Regraded 1:


The Great Wall

Blu-ray 1:


Regraded 1:


The Magnificent Seven

Blu-ray 1:


Regraded 1:



He's done most of the newer ones, and most classics.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Jun 2017 15:20    Post subject:
^ kk650 regrades films to his liking, not to correct any mistake with them. Well, ok, there are a few exceptions, but for the majority of the films he has regraded, there's no mistake/error, it's just the personal preference of the director. The OP seems to have downloaded some bad rips or something.


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russ80




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Jun 2017 15:31    Post subject:
Yeah well, i'm mostly downloading the rips mentioned here as rls. Some are great, others not so much and like i said compared to their trailers it's clear something went wrong with the compression unless the source file was just as bad.


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flappy




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Jun 2017 20:42    Post subject:
My TV (Samsung) has a "movie"-mode that makes the picture have this greenish tint (like your 'Blu-ray 1' samples). Again when following various calibration instructions online the result is a very greenish looking picture. It's supposed to be 'the shit', but I think it looks fucking awful... Crying or Very sad
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russ80




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Jun 2017 06:27    Post subject:
flappy wrote:
My TV (Samsung) has a "movie"-mode that makes the picture have this greenish tint (like your 'Blu-ray 1' samples). Again when following various calibration instructions online the result is a very greenish looking picture. It's supposed to be 'the shit', but I think it looks fucking awful... Crying or Very sad


Movie is indeed the mode you want, warm1 or 2 setting, no dc, smart led high etc. Unless you're used to having every setting on for max torch mode and blueish whites.

Then again it's your screen so set it up how you want.

That's not the problem here though since some blurays look great just like their trailers, while others don't..


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flappy




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PostPosted: Sun, 18th Jun 2017 13:01    Post subject:
@russ80
Oh, you mean the 'dynamic' mode. No thanks, I like my eyes in their sockets and not burnt out to a crisp Very Happy
I use the natural mode, with a few tweaks. It as you say all comes down to taste.

I don't think that color will be so radically changed by just adding compression though. Have you compared any of them to full bluray?
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