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Frant
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Not interested and definitely not something for waiting people to use as a reason to upgrade.
It's also a 3rd party (ASMedia) chip which means it doesn't have the same direct connection with the PCIe-controller as Intel and AMD.
Like this (pdf, install a pdf reader addon in your browser): http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/pci-express/phy-interface-pci-express-sata-usb31-architectures.html
Thunderbolt 2 (20Gbit/s, twice the bandwidth as the upcoming USB 3.1) has already been available for nearly 12 months on motherboards from most big manufacturers.
For some reason most people think Thunderbolt is only to connect the computer to HD/UHD-monitors/tellys. 
You can use it to high performance external Harddrive/SSD/SAS in RAID/Stripe set configurations like:
http://www.data-tale.com/product.asp?a=&id=101#.U5KAAvmSwrp
http://www.drobo.com/how-it-works/
https://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10549
http://www.promise.com/storage/raid_series.aspx?region=en-global&m=192&rsn1=49&rsn3=47
High-end audio interfaces (with ridiculous latencies and enormous bandwidth to transfer massive amounts of 192KHz/96-bit channels of audio data:
http://www.uaudio.com/apollo
http://www.motu.com/products/motuaudio/828x
High-speed multipurpose docking interfaces like:
| Quote: | Sunix PILI
#2 Thunderbolt, 1Gb Ethernet, #4 USB 3.0, microphone in, line in, line out, SPDIF out, 3.5" HDD Bay, Blu-ray Disc Writer |
| Quote: | Sonnet Echo Thunderbolt Dock
External Connectors - 2 x 3Gbit/s eSATA, 1 x FireWire 800, 1 x 1Gb Ethernet, 2 x Thunderbolt (For daisy Chaining), 4 x USB 3.0, 2 x Audio Input, 2 x Audio Output
Internal Connectors - SATA Data (6Gp/s) & Power (For HDD)
Blu-ray or DVD Drive |
| Quote: | CalDigit Thunderbolt Station
Audio In/Out
3 x USB 3.0
1 x 1Gb Ethernet
1 x HDMI
2 x Thunderbolt for daisy chaining |
| Quote: | Elgato Systems Thunderbolt Dock
2x Thunderbolt (10 Gbit/s, bi-directional Input/Output)
1x HDMI 1.4 Output (up to 2560x1600 pixels resolution, HDCP compliant)
1x RJ45 10/100/1000BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet
3x USB 3.0 (5 Gbit/s, support for bus-powered devices, UASP & USB 2.0 compatible)
1x 3.5mm Audio Output (analog stereo, via built-in DAC)
1x 3.5mm Microphone Input (mono, via built-in DAC)
1x Power Input (DC 12V 5A) |
...and some other random fun stuff:
* ATTO Technology Thunderbolt to 10G Ethernet Adapter with 10G Base-T
* ATTO Technology Thunderbolt to 10G Ethernet Adapter with 10G SFP+ optic
* Fibre Channel, SAS/SATA or 10GbE Ethernet to Thunderbolt ThunderLink Desklink devices
* ThunderStream SAS/SATA to Thunderbolt RAID Desklink devices
* SANLink. A Thunderbolt to dual 4G Fibre Channel adapter for SAN connection.
I'd get a 2 x 2.5" SSD Thunderbolt 2 case and two of the fastest 256GB SATA6GB SSD-drives and create a stripe-set (RAID0).
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2014 05:21 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: |
For some reason most people think Thunderbolt is only to connect the computer to HD/UHD-monitors/tellys. |
Don't blame people for not knowing. I don't know either.
I think most of the blame should go for piss-poor marketing from Intel.
And USB is widely known so I doubt there is going to be any major shift towards Thunderbolt in next few years anyway, as in it's not going to get adopted like USB. |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2014 10:06 Post subject: |
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usb 3.1 ? I can't even figure out the difference between usb 1.x, 2.x or 3.x lol.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2014 12:07 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | usb 3.1 ? I can't even figure out the difference between usb 1.x, 2.x or 3.x lol. |
Speed?
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2014 12:30 Post subject: |
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And power.
USB 1.1: 12 Mbps, 150 mA @ 5 V for a maximum of 0.75 W
USB 2.0: 480 Mbps, 500 mA @ 5 V for a maximum of 2.5 W
USB 3.0: 5 Gbps, 900 mA @ 5 V for a maximum of 4.5 W
USB 3.1 is different in a good way. Speed aside (10 Gbps), there's now multiple power profiles.
- 2A @ 5 V for a maximum of 10 W
- 5A @ 12 V for a maximum of 60 W
- 5A @ 20 V for a maximum of 100 W
TB will be adopted eventually, due to its flexible nature. It just won't replace USB entirely, because USB is too well known. Unlike Firewire though, TB can do much more than USB can.
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2014 14:13 Post subject: |
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So are you suggesting we should not wait for the new 3.1 USBs and get an actual ASUS board Z97-PRO or something or....?
Sorry i'm a bit noob with technology news ^^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;, since i've read usb 3.1 gives twice the speed of the 3.0 i tought "ZOOOOOOOOM"
Current owner of an ASUS P8Z68-V PRO GEN3
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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| Posted: Sat, 7th Jun 2014 14:17 Post subject: |
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There's no point in waiting for USB 3.1 unless you have a very specific need for the power side of it (doubtful, since nothing is available yet). I don't think anything even saturates the bandwidth in USB 3.0 right now, let alone 3.1 
And it's a separate controller, nothing on the market for 3.1 for some time to come. Just no point to it yet.
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