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 Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 05:13 Post subject: 970 GT...meh |
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Hi guys
Just swiped myself a new msi 970 and im massively underwhelmed.
I checked out bench's etc and bought the MSI 970 gaming (im fully aware of vram-gate)
so im firing up games to check performance against benchmarks and im dissapointed.
for example, loaded up black flag.
at max settings (and all manner of AA option tested) I dont really get more than 50fps , this is at 1080p and terrible stutter
tried dayz standalone for a laugh and still get the same as i got on my 660, around 30fps in town around 55 otherwise.
checked gpu and cpu while playing black flag, neither of which exceed 60% useage. Anyone shed any light on this (i7 and 8gb ram also)
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 06:07 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 01:11; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 06:20 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | You're using Black Flag and DayZ for benchmarking? 
Try something that doesn't run like shit on all hardware. |
yeah i know i know, even benchmarking using valley and heaven seem to be coming in a couple of hundred points below the benchmarks on same settings (with similar setups) |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 06:36 Post subject: |
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noticed this, websie stats compared to the msi app, nomatter what made that number does not change (and its way lower than what it should be anyway)
http://i.imgur.com/yRSKFI3.png
what gives?
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russ80
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 07:48 Post subject: |
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What's your cpu?
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 09:13 Post subject: |
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When you say your CPU hasn't exceeded 60% usage are you sure it's not maxing out a single core? That's enough to bottleneck the game, it doesn't matter if other cores are free. Therefore you would be CPU bound and better GPU won't contribute to better performance.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 13:05 Post subject: |
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It's the games that are disappointing you, not the card. 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 13:24 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | You're using Black Flag and DayZ for benchmarking?
Try something that doesn't run like shit on all hardware. |
^^ this guy has the answer.. |
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russ80
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 13:51 Post subject: |
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I'm running a 2500 non-k, so I doubt it since I'm happy with most games... then again he could always have an AMD 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 15:27 Post subject: |
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I already mentioned, got an i7 2600k @ 3.4
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 16:45 Post subject: |
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zipfero
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 16:46 Post subject: |
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DAYZ WTF ARE YOU DOING
People with 5k machines get 20 fps in towns in that game
8 out of 10 dentists prefer zipfero to competing brands(fraich3 and Mutantius)!
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 16:49 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | | Why dont you sit down and do some Heaven & Valley benchmarks... |
already mentioned that I have above.....jesus. after your input of "nuub" I'm not on the edge of my seat for your analysis.
@zip, I already said I know! I just fired up a game that notoriously runs bad to see improvement. I wasn't using it as a benchmark.
As I mentioned earlier people with extreme preset on valley/heaven are getting around the 2300 mark, whereas im getting around the 2000 mark |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 17:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 18:38 Post subject: |
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Maxing out the settings and ramping up the AA and then getting bad fps doesn't mean ANYTHING. Games are fucking retarded and those 8x AA settings at >1080p resolutions are total overkill...
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 18:44 Post subject: |
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| paxsali wrote: | | Sorry, that I only wanted to help. It's not my fault you're doing something wrong. |
aaaand ignored.
anyhoo, will investigate further, though does seem to be performing under spec. |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 20:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 23:01 Post subject: |
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| evilmonkey wrote: | | paxsali wrote: | | Sorry, that I only wanted to help. It's not my fault you're doing something wrong. |
aaaand ignored.
anyhoo, will investigate further, though does seem to be performing under spec. |
I'm just gonna repeat myself because this is almost certainly your problem: Check your CPU usage per core, it's probably maxing out on a single core. 2600K at 3.4Ghz isn't particularly fast, mine is at 4.5Ghz and plenty of games are still CPU bound.
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M4trix
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Feb 2015 23:22 Post subject: |
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I saw it, wanted too see what kind of mastery of wit and language he could come up with, didn't want to miss his Oscar Wilde worthy reply. I was not dissapointed. The kid replys with "nuub" which he promptly deletes ( twas another stroke of literal genius and comedy no doubt) then provides nothing constructive short of " its your fault" sometimes I wonder if 12 year old internet big men can get any more retarded, and somebody always proves me right.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2015 03:31 Post subject: |
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The games that you've tested are weird beasts indeed, like it's already been said (AC because Ubibaboons, DayZ because..well Arma engine), but the 60% usage is weird indeed and not normal. Sometimes that could depend on having the v-sync enabled, though it could be some kind of preemptive measure when the card is either overclocked or is experiencing wrong temps. Are those fine? 
The most banal thing would be to do a clean drivers reinstall (including the MSI software), but other than that..I don't know :<. As for the CPU, what Bearish said, with the core that could be bottlenecked.
In any case, you're not alone on this, 157 pages and counting! https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/781982/geforce-drivers/nvidia-geforce-gtx-900-series-feedback-gathering-low-gpu-load-and-other-issues-/157/
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| Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2015 16:02 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | And he never ran the MHO benchmark, lol, was dying to see the score  |
mho bench? |
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Aeon
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russ80
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2015 08:12 Post subject: |
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Cpu bottleneck. Oc that i7 or get a newer one...
Main PC : I7 12700, MSI Ventus RTX 4090 24gb, Alienware AW3423DW QD-OLED
Laptop : I5 4200H @ 3400mhz boost, GTX 850m 2gb Vram DDR3, 4gb RAM DDR3
Derpsole : Playstation 5 disc edition, Ninty Switcherino
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sausje
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2015 13:32 Post subject: |
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Seriously, having a 2600k but still on 3.4GHz and then complains about not noticing GPU upgrade
OC that cpu to 4.1-4.2GHz (and turn off the turbo boost) with just the multiplier (which is 110% safe) and you will see improvement.
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