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nouseforaname
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 Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2015 02:34 Post subject: quick advice on a new laptop |
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so I want to replace my old laptop with a new one. it serves two purposes, one as my HTPC and the other as a travel companion. currently I have an acer timeline with a core 2 duo that is about 4 or 5 years old now, the inside fans are busted (so it runs on a cooling pad so it doesn't shut down), and it chugs a bit on 1080p stuff with high bitrate.
so I was thinking about a dell xps 13. looks good, is light, and outputs to 4k through the mini display port. and it seems pretty cheap.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.312527400?Icid=Computers_EN_ModuleA_2_DellXPS13_012115
I can get an education discount, which makes that only ~$820 CAD (so the i5 with 4gb ram and 128gb ssd, mostly use networked storage at home)
So any reason I shouldn't get it?
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2015 06:36 Post subject: |
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I like the look of the xps 13, slim, 4k display. If I were ever to get a laptop it would be this one 
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2015 12:43 Post subject: |
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have a look the new zenbooks, Asus Zenbook UX303LA-R4342H is awesome. but around 999 euros. there are versions with i5 instead of i7 for less money.
never had a dell, but a few people i know. all got different problems after almost exactly two years. but in this case when you can get it for 820 canadian monopoly money (around 640 euros atm) you should get it cause it should be more than enough for your purposes
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2015 00:43 Post subject: |
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thanks guys, bought it today. I'm sure the humps will look glorious in 4K!
(also, yeah zenbook is nice but too expensive at around $1250CAD for the only configuration the shops here sell which is the i7+8gb ... also haswell instead of broadwell like the dell)
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2015 01:13 Post subject: |
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should be a great machine, I have an old dell d630 that still runs fine after 8 years or so...
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2015 03:49 Post subject: |
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hmmm... for whatever reason youtube 4k stutters (on MDP-->HDMI). broadwells with intel 5500 are supposed to be fine handling this (especially low bitrate youtube).
any ideas why?
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2015 15:28 Post subject: |
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using 4k video on a 4k display? hdmi 1.4 only supports 24hz(in best case besides the official ranges 30hz) @ 4k
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 01:22 Post subject: |
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I got the 1080p display, but I'm outputting to my 4k TV via mini display port to HDMI... Maybe a codec issue?
This is the TV... http://m.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-49UB8500-led-tv
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 01:35 Post subject: |
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mh ok as far is can see it already has hdmi 2.0 ports and accepts a picture in 50hz and 60hz with it, so on that side u're good to go. but your laptop hasnt and converting mini dp to hdmi most likely causes the issue. its not a codec problem i think, download some test 4k mkv and you will see the same stuttering. in rare cases the cable could be the problem, there are no special hdmi2.0 cables, but you should use high quality one (and not a 10m hdmi cable for 7 euros), but i think its a problem with the adapter so that the tv detects it as hdmi 1.3/1.4 and uses 24hz
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 13:11 Post subject: |
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y u buy shit from apple store? if you connected your laptop you can check it with rightclick on the desktop -> screen resolution -> right click on the tv -> properties -> monitor. i cant tell you if it could work with an adapter anyway, maybe google a bit. but i can image native hdmi 2.0 output port is needed
dont think another hdmi port would make the difference, according to what i read its all the same. just labeled for overview
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 13:33 Post subject: |
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HDMI is fully digital, don't worry about "shitty" quality there
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 13:48 Post subject: |
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Make sure to get platinum HDMI connectors for better video and audio quality.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 14:07 Post subject: |
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@nouseforaname don't ever again look at "4K mini-DP adapter" or other bullshit marketing terms like that. DP does not use different cables for different versions. No difference whatsoever. With HDMI you have standard and "High Speed" cables (has to do with the signal frequency); the latter is required even for 1080p though, so 99% of them are HS. HDMI 2.0 still uses that same HS cable (which was introduced with HDMI 1.3 back in 2006).
Only thing that matters is the HDMI and DP versions on either end, because they are connection specifications, not cable specifications.
DisplayPort:
- 1.1 = 60 Hz up to 2560x1600 @ 30bpp, 30 Hz up to 4096x2304 @ 24bpp
- 1.2 = 60 Hz up to 4096x2304 @ 30bpp
- 1.3 = 60 Hz "5K"
HDMI (all of these limits are @24bpp - 1.0-1.2 don't do more than 24bpp):
- 1.0 - 1.2: 60 Hz up to 1920x1200
- 1.3: 60 Hz up to 2560×1600
- 1.4: 60 Hz up to 2560×1600, 30 Hz up to 4096x2160
- 2.0: 60 Hz up to 4096x2160 |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 14:38 Post subject: |
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@pumpy: its not about the "shitty" quality. digital = connection -> yes or no! but you can have problems with isolations or electricity. had a case where we used a 10m cable (not a shitty one) with a beamer, worked fine with the tv receiver (cable from beamer to a hdmi switch to change input from tv to pc), but when only using the pc it didnt worked. had to power on the tv receiver first, then switch to pc. after about 90min the picture flickered and was gone, turning on the tv receiver, switch to it. turning that off again and switch back to pc resolved the problem. that was a issue which happened not only once but EVERY time. now that was just only an example to clerify even if digital signal means signal or not and no "bad" signal.
@leonatan: as i wrote, its about isolation and the interference frequencies
but in this case i think its indeed a problem with the adapter from dp to hdmi which prevents a proper handshake between the laptop and the tv
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2015 18:24 Post subject: |
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dp 1.2 is fine and the gtx680 has dp 1.2. BUT i assume he got a card with only 2gb vram (4gb ones were expansive when they came out). thats not enough for 4k, will stutter as hell. also there you have the problem the tv only has hdmi inputs and no direct dp. so adapter could cause problems
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 04:48 Post subject: |
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OK, even testing in 1080p @ 60hz (and confirmed it was indeed 30hz in 2160p) everything is still janky. I did even make sure to use the 'high speed' HDMI cable that came with the tv.
so I'm just going to go with this is a shit connector and I should try something new but not expect 4k @ 60hz
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 12:21 Post subject: |
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they dont do dp on tvs cause it would cost more money, the amount of people who use it is small as fuck. hdmi2 is soon standard on all gfx cards and tbh i think everyone who bought a 4k tv is an idiot (no insult bro) cause there is no real material for it, and please dont mention the fake 4k remastered blurays.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 15:24 Post subject: |
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Yeah I only bought it because there wasn't much price difference on it compared to 1080p on a black Friday sale. Not to mention the design on lg 4k TVs has almost no bezel and was the only model that came with webos which I wanted to try.
But there will be 4k blurays later this year and I'll have the TV for several years anyways... My old TV was broken so I had to replace it so not like I just upgraded a perfectly fine 1080p set
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 16:32 Post subject: |
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announced for christmas 2015 afaik, but you need a new bluray player or drive for your pc which can handle 4k and the new discs (4k discs wont work in old players). kinda fucked up but no way around
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2015 18:17 Post subject: |
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Lol right now I have a $50 piece of shit br player from Walmart so happy to replace it with 4k/3d player but I would hope the new players are backwards compatible
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