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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 13:57    Post subject: Big national strike
Today in Belgium we're having a big ass national strike. When I say "we" I mean the unions mainly.

Why are we striking? Because the previous governments have succeeded in doing fuck all to fix the looming problem of the baby-boom generation retiring without having the funds needed to pay for the pensions. Instead they increased the taxes on wages for corporations with the result that many multi-nationals have moved abroad with as result more unemployment and more pressure on the social network.

So now they're striking because, god forbid, the pension age has been raised by two years and some social advantages are being curtailed - something which has already been done in every other European country. We have the lowest pension age and the highest tax costs for companies - is it a big surprise something needs to be done?

But no ... they have to strike, put even more pressure on companies and basically take the entire country hostage. Unions these days feel more like mafia than anything else ...
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 14:40    Post subject:
First it's 2 years, then after a while it's a year or two more, and so it will continue until it's so high that you're expected to die before your pension or not long after starting your golden years.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 14:50    Post subject:
Yeah, we have some Belgian partners, didn't get to work due to strikes, I was like "wut" when I heard "a strike in Belgium".
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 15:05    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
First it's 2 years, then after a while it's a year or two more, and so it will continue until it's so high that you're expected to die before your pension or not long after starting your golden years.

It's been known for 20 years that there would be trouble - when I was in high school there was already a lot of talking about "de vergrijzing" and that it would be a problem when the baby boom generation was growing old. Back then they already suggested that the age would need to be raised and the pensions lowered but the social party that ruled the government has been holding it off for decades meaning that the slow adjustment that was supposed to happen, never happened so now the government is forced to make a sudden shift.

Of course, this is a tactic of the social parties - they lost in the last elections (big time) so it's a smart move to make the current government unpopular so they can get better votes next time. It's disgusting really because in the end, it will cause a lot more poverty - and the social parties get most of their votes from the poorest layer of society.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 16:10    Post subject:
Lol Very Happy

Same in Bulgaria, pension age is 68years, and they want to raise it by 2 more.. Laughing

I'd be happy if I manage to reach that age.. Very Happy

We have like 6,5 million people, of which 2 are retired and rising each year Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 17:15    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
Lol Very Happy

Same in Bulgaria, pension age is 68years, and they want to raise it by 2 more.. Laughing

I'd be happy if I manage to reach that age.. Very Happy

We have like 6,5 million people, of which 2 are retired and rising each year Rolling Eyes


Our pension age was 65, the lowest in Europe from what I hear. They want to raise it to 67.
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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 17:49    Post subject:
Oh dear lord ... Unions make you strike? Poor you ... Why dont you come work in Estonia. Here is no Unions who would stand up for you and if you end up with an asshole boss you will work 12 hours a day and get probably 500 euros a month.

How does that sound for you? Not good huuh? Then stop whining.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 18:33    Post subject:
Poor companies need to apply even more fantasy to evade the raising taxes? Poor companies. We should only tax them 1% and then they'll generate millions of jobs and everybody will be happy.


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PostPosted: Mon, 15th Dec 2014 19:16    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Poor companies need to apply even more fantasy to evade the raising taxes? Poor companies. We should only tax them 1% and then they'll generate millions of jobs and everybody will be happy.

To be fair, the effort should be made to have a European law in place to prevent corporations from shifting money between countries to avoid taxes which is the main way they evade them. Right now it's a game where only the companies benefit from and I agree, there's too much tax evasion. But that's another topic entirely - this topic was mainly to facepalm about how people protest measures that should have been taken years ago.

The baby-boom generation are stubborn and selfish - they'd rather have the current generation crippled under social taxes with low incomes to pay for their pensions than work a little longer while they had very low taxes 20-30 years ago making it so most of them have been able to buy a house and still have a lot of money saved. The current generation can no longer afford to buy a house as it is right now ... unless their parents help out.
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Dec 2014 11:02    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Poor companies need to apply even more fantasy to evade the raising taxes? Poor companies. We should only tax them 1% and then they'll generate millions of jobs and everybody will be happy.

Just read about taxes for companies in China and Russia nowadays.
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