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 Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 17:27 Post subject: New PSU - lots of errors |
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Bought myself a be quiet! straight power 10 500w to fix coil whine (fixed only the last psu whine, but gtx 970 still persists). Now Im getting blue screens with tons of different errors (IRQL, driver IRQL, memory management, cpu seond processor crap, some .sys nvidia file), pc freezes, but doesnt restart. Sometimes the software doesnt work. Windows explorer crashes, msi afterburner crashes, nvidia stuff crashes, cant go to end task, cant uninstall stuff. benchmarks crash.
Is the most likely culprit here the PSU? should be from a very reputable firm, I just cant believe Id get a dud  Ive been told left and right that 500w is enough for my system even if oc'd.
i5-3570k @4.4gHz, MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4g OC'd, MSI z77a-g45, Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mHz, Corsair TX650 PSU, Crucial M4 128gb, WD 1.5 TB HDD, Seagate 1TB HDD, LG 27MB85R-B 1440p
RSI name: ctulu
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 17:34 Post subject: |
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who told you that? you've been lied to. GTX970 has a minimum system power requirement of 500W. that's MINIMUM, for reference cards without any overclocks! more demanding factory overclocked cards like Gigabyte G1 Gaming require at least 550W PSU, and if you want to overclock further you need even better PSU.
you should have looked for official requirements on nvidia and card manufacturer websites. random people on the internet are often very wrong. i don't know who can look at your heavily overclocked specs and tell you that 500W is enough. must be complete computer illiterate.
if you can, try to get your PSU exchanged for a more powerful one.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 17:52 Post subject: |
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Dunno about it.. crashes in Windows? Not sure this is the PSU...
"Windows explorer crashes"
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 18:32 Post subject: |
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500w is not even close enough for you system in full load, even if is not oc. try at least a true power 650w.
but the culprit may be the gfx card aswell.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 18:41 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | who told you that? you've been lied to. GTX970 has a minimum system power requirement of 500W. that's MINIMUM, for reference cards without any overclocks! more demanding factory overclocked cards like Gigabyte G1 Gaming require at least 550W PSU, and if you want to overclock further you need even better PSU.
you should have looked for official requirements on nvidia and card manufacturer websites. random people on the internet are often very wrong. i don't know who can look at your heavily overclocked specs and tell you that 500W is enough. must be complete computer illiterate. |
indeed 
 
are you nuts?
500w the real one at least is more than enough, wtf?????
his system not even using 400w at the moment at full load
gotta love clueless people
here educate yourself
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-970-g1-gaming-review,7.html
@kazemaky
if this started after you replaced your psu it is probably defective, other than that it could be ssd, your overclock, ram
i've been running seasonic 500w for more than 2 years with several setups, even 660 sli, rail is most important thing in psu now watts when it comes to stability
Last edited by Mortibus on Fri, 14th Nov 2014 19:11; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 19:15 Post subject: |
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Should've bought a Future Proof CORSAIR AX860 like mine (as long as the serial number or product's "Lot Code" 's first 4 numbers is above 1342 to prevent coil whine.
Mine works miracles still on my GIGABYTE GTX 970 G1 GAMING without any PC Reboots nor similar.
But atleast it's good to know you've got it finally working. Congrats ^^. Take good care of it!
ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS, 32GB DDR4@2666 ,RYZEN 5800X3D (NO OC),GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super GAMING OC, Western Digital Blue 4TB 5400RPM + SAMSUNG 860 EVO 500+1TB GB SSDs , OEM SATA DVD 22xNoctua NH-D15 Chromax Black, BenQ XL2420T Case: Be Quiet! DARK BASE PRO 901. PSU CORSAIR RM1200 SHIFT
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 19:18 Post subject: |
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Be quiet is quality tho :/
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 19:19 Post subject: |
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| kazemaky wrote: | | Be quiet is quality tho :/ |
well i've seen some doa seasonics as well, that doesn't mean anything
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 20:38 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: |
his system not even using 400w at the moment at full load
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500w at 80% efficiency (i use that number usually to be safe) -> 400w sustainable.
full load ~300w (cpu/gpu). adding hdd usb and others 350w+. to close to the psu output for my taste. if you want to oc the system to ...
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 21:42 Post subject: |
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oc cpu/gpu will just add another 30-40w which still has like 100w left, which in my book is more than enough with even bronze 80+ 500w psu form xfx, seasonic etc
i have one pc that runs first i5@3.5ghz with 8gb gtx660 2gb [gtx460 before that, which is more power hungry] + ssd+ 2hdd + +++ runing on OLD antec 380w for the past 4 years, which was used in another pc before this one for at least 3 years, that makes it 7 years straight, that pc pulls about 270w at max load, i measured it myself
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2014 23:32 Post subject: |
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| kazemaky wrote: | | Tried 650w seasonix g series at the shop and seems fine now. Extra 20 euros |
That's the sweetspot right there I'd say. Under load your system at probably 66-70% of on the curve, assuming something like this:
But if you're in 'murica, well, though luck  
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2014 11:33 Post subject: |
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And the problem persists. FUCK!!! ruined my mood for the day. got back to back 2 BSOD about secondary processor clock bs
E: changed cpu clocks from bosot to constant 4.4. much higher temps, but hasnt crashed for 20 min, so it's something...
i5-3570k @4.4gHz, MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4g OC'd, MSI z77a-g45, Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mHz, Corsair TX650 PSU, Crucial M4 128gb, WD 1.5 TB HDD, Seagate 1TB HDD, LG 27MB85R-B 1440p
RSI name: ctulu
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2014 11:55 Post subject: |
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Seems like a driver problem. Have you updated all drivers? If that doesn't solve your problem, run memtest. If you're really unlucky, your CPU is faulty.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2014 12:11 Post subject: |
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Ive had the cpu for years and ocd. I tried memtest for 1 pass and it was fine. Ill tty full test some time soon
i5-3570k @4.4gHz, MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4g OC'd, MSI z77a-g45, Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mHz, Corsair TX650 PSU, Crucial M4 128gb, WD 1.5 TB HDD, Seagate 1TB HDD, LG 27MB85R-B 1440p
RSI name: ctulu
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2014 13:47 Post subject: |
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I will quote because skipping through this it seems maybe something has been missed here.
I could be wrong but I read the initial post you had coil whine, for one coil singing is not a problem and does not harm really or bother hardware from functioning, but coil whine maybe is not what you have and its actually caps that are failing.
"(fixed only the last psu whine, but gtx 970 still persists)! << psu whine fixed but 970 still persists, maybe the bsod and so forth are just that, unfortunate bad caps and this will cause your card to fuck up and bsod etc for sure if its left running like that for lengths of time.
Whines of non sealed coils can sound pretty much the same at times as leaking caps
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2014 14:20 Post subject: |
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I had no crashing before psu change on ocd card. Ive had cpu ocd for years without problems on decent temps. The corsair psu ehined even with my amd 6870 card. Be quiet and seasonic are silent. The gpu whine sounds like coil whine other peeps reported, but im open to suggestions that its a gpu fault
i5-3570k @4.4gHz, MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4g OC'd, MSI z77a-g45, Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mHz, Corsair TX650 PSU, Crucial M4 128gb, WD 1.5 TB HDD, Seagate 1TB HDD, LG 27MB85R-B 1440p
RSI name: ctulu
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2014 07:37 Post subject: |
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who told you the PSU has anything to do with gpu coil whine?
its the cheap capacitors put on gpu's that cause that.
As far as PSU's go. had a corsair tx 650 since 2008, still purring along flawlessly, and survived 3 different rigs, all of them with significant overclocking.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2014 07:44 Post subject: |
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Mu tx made laser noises and people have had less coil whine with different psus. Ive got less of gpu whine too now
i5-3570k @4.4gHz, MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4g OC'd, MSI z77a-g45, Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600mHz, Corsair TX650 PSU, Crucial M4 128gb, WD 1.5 TB HDD, Seagate 1TB HDD, LG 27MB85R-B 1440p
RSI name: ctulu
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2014 14:59 Post subject: |
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I've got my TX650v2 still going rock solid for three years now, damned thing had enough grunt to power a largely OC system with a pair 570s and now powers a hugely OCed 780 just fine too. Seasonic/Corsair have my money forever, I'll never buy another brand of PSU for a primary PC.
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