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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:30    Post subject: UreRetard
UreKismet wrote:
Actually the biggest yawn of the lot I get is from watching Natan once again, use hasbara techniques for social control, to divide the opposition to Rockstar's assault on their customers.
Look through the other debates Natan has involved himself in where monopolistic publishers have been found using and abusing their customers and you'll find the same techniques.
Natan displays empathy for the people he is about to split asunder (a move at the top of the hasbara playlist where propagandists for the oppressor frequently express concern for 'the children' - a concern never displayed in the bombing and butchery that the Hasbara-ites enabled).

In this case Natan claims he agrees that Rockstar fucked PC gamers up the ass, but instead of actually proposing anything useful, something that assists gamers in confronting this assault on their platform (one that is entirely economically driven, as consoles collect considerably more revenue for major publishers than mostly ) non-proprietary PC hardware can, Natan turns on the PC gamers, trying to split them against each other into feuding groups of those who are pissed off at the entire delay and those pissed off at the latest 2 months.

Strawman shit - the two groups are actually one but Natan's artificial division is about diverting them so that the big games publishers, don't have to deal with a single cohesive unit of opposition.

It seems insane I know, but even in the minuscule state where I currently reside, the going rate for creating false lines of debate designed to discourage and divert ordinary humans away from opposition to a particular capitalist enterprise,e.g. the going rate for supporting a sugar pusher (say a manufacturer of chocolate, or bags of sugar enhanced potato chips) is $5000/month - just from one greedy eager to seem other than what they really are.
Blokes I know are getting much richer monitoring for, then hopping into debates on blogs, bulletin boards, and social media to distract users away from their contractors, and into internal feuds,than they ever did coding up apps.

Laughing

Fuck it, I'll bite. I give a flying shit about your country, the debates, the moron "blokes" you "monitor". I also give a flying fuck about Rockstar, PC gamers and their stupid arguments. I see something, I agree or disagree with it, and state my opinion. I don't take sides. One other "debate" where I "socially controlled" the "opposition" was by disagreeing that most of the internet caricatures on YouTube are doing good service to the #gamergate bullshit. Oh yeah, you know it baby, I fucked Zoe in the ass as favors for this split asunder.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:33    Post subject:
One could say.. you split her asunder J Browman





... I'll let myself out Okay
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:35    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
One could say.. you split her asunder J Browman





... I'll let myself out Okay

Sad

She said "Strawman shit" Crying or Very sad
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:36    Post subject:
So what's next?
What's the point of this thread?


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:39    Post subject:
The amount of crap people attribute to me is just funney, that's all. Over the years, people have attributed stuff to me, from being an all-controlling mastermind, to baby killer, to apparently corporate spy. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:41    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
The amount of crap people attribute to me is just funney




lol wut
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:43    Post subject:
Maybe that's because of your arrogance and unable to admit if/when you're wrong?
Or could it be that when a discussion doesn't go your way you start out by trying to belittle someone.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's because you're actually one of these things you're accused of.
I don't know, but the guy didn't address anyone else but you in his post.

Food for thought.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:45    Post subject:
I am a baby killer.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:49    Post subject:
For all I know you actually might be. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:51    Post subject:


Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:53    Post subject:
The guy was probably stoned. That sounds line outright stoner paranoia.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:57    Post subject:
That doesn't read as something someone would write under the influence of narcotics (or so I would assume).


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 02:57    Post subject:
Pot is not a narcotic.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:01    Post subject:
Because that was the important part in what I wrote and should imidietly be addressed.

Post Scriptum
You are good at deflecting and changing the subject, I'll give you that.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:05    Post subject:
Have you ever been stoned? Because I wrote alot of shit while stoned when I was younger. It makes you quite creative (as long as you never reread anything ever again).

Edit: damn typos


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."


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LeoNatan
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:07    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Post Scriptum
You are good at deflecting and changing the subject, I'll give you that.

What is the subject in the first place that I reflected? Laughing This is a nondescript thread.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:09    Post subject:
@couleur
Let's wait and see what UreKismet says when/if he shows up to the 'party'. ^_^


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:15    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
This is a nondescript thread.


I think you labelled it pretty well yourself actually (you know, after I asked what the point of the thread was).
It's about you and what people seem to attribute to you, such as "all-controlling mastermind, baby killer and a corporate spy".

LeoNatan wrote:
The amount of crap people attribute to me is just funney, that's all. Over the years, people have attributed stuff to me, from being an all-controlling mastermind, to baby killer, to apparently corporate spy. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:18    Post subject:
Ah I see, and what exactly in your "influence of narcotics" post did address the topic?
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:20    Post subject:
It was a response to couleur and nothing more.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:22    Post subject:
And my post was a response to your post and nothing more, yet I am "good at deflecting and changing the subject". Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:24    Post subject:
You are, in general.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:26    Post subject:
It's a virtue of asunder splitters.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:28    Post subject:
Ohh, I bet it serves you well.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:30    Post subject:
Helps me control the masses. I split them asunder, divide and conquer, feed them strawman's shit and change the light bulbs.
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:32    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Helps me control the masses. I split them asunder, divide and conquer, feed them strawman's shit and change the light bulbs.


That might very well be the case.


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:41    Post subject:
Today is actually the first time I've heard of 'hasbara' so I'm intrigued as to what it actually is.

This is what I found;

Quote:
HASBARA TROLL ATTRIBUTES
Supreme point of view
The Hasbara troll knows best
Condescending & Patronising
Socialist (Smart and โ€˜caringโ€™)
Do not have to be Jewish but Pro-Israel
Internet experts
Narcissistic
Provocative
Dis-ruptive
Like to ask the questions, not answer questions
Control freaks
Inflamed by anyone being critical of Israel
โ€˜Moralโ€™ Guardians
Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier
Adept with social networks well trained on IT


Uncanny. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 03:51    Post subject:
Very Happy

Forgot: favorite color green Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Sep 2014 04:02    Post subject:
Go on, tell me more. Cool


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