The audio thread (renamed)
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 02:21    Post subject: The audio thread (renamed)
Just ordered these Very Happy

Sennheiser 598


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042A8CW2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

TOPPING VX1


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H6XDE4S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


*rubs hands vigorously* Friday can't come soon enough.




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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 02:39    Post subject:
Enjoy !


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 03:02    Post subject:
I absolutely love the 598!

My fiancee got them as a replacement for crappy JBL's that broke down after 2 days. The sound they produce is great. So I sometimes steal them when she's not around.

You'll be quite enjoying them, I'm sure of that. Very Happy


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 03:04    Post subject:
God, everyone I know, knows someone who has them and says nothing but amazing shit. I can't fucking wait to get them. I've never had open back headphones before but I've heard they really open up the sound stage.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 10:36    Post subject:
I would love 598 only if it had skin material memory foam pads. Plush cushions are too itchy for me


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 10:43    Post subject:
Nerd.




*hides his 598's*
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 11:24    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
*hides his 598's*


Surprised

You are indeed a special little man! Very Happy


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 16:59    Post subject:
I considered upgrading to those when my HD555 kinda fell apart, but local shop was out of stock, so I got the 600 instead Sad
Amazon has a nice discount on those and the 650... I'd have to pay some 100€ more locally for the former, twice that for the latter.
Quite a step up from the 555 either way Awesome
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 17:05    Post subject:
On a sidenote to make SkypeZ hate me, I got myself a pair of RS 180s too a while ago (because I cba dragging the 598's between rooms and a cable sucks in the bedroom anyway) and I'm actually quite pleased with their quality for what they cost and the fact that they're wireless.

They're not quite as good as a pair of 598's, but they're pretty good. For music they lack a bit of clarity, but for films I'm content with them. Still better than any gaming headset at least, some of which go for twice the money.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 17:32    Post subject:
I picked up a steinberg CI2 and audio-technica ATH-M50's a while back and LOVE them.
Never had open back headphones, was debating on if I wanted closed studio headphones or not, but the sound out of them is amazing I think.

And enjoy the Topping! Ive heard great things about it for deep and detail of the sound it produces on good headphones. (not sure on the actual speaker amp part. I know one guy with one and he just uses it for headphones)


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 20:08    Post subject:
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 20:37    Post subject:
How are these headphones for gaming? Very Happy


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 20:55    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
What exactly does the applifier do for you?

You would need an amp to properly drive headphones, mainly higher end ones, because they have a higher input impedance. Without an amp they will not sound quite like they should, with limited range and too "bassy" (because not all frequencies will be properly reproduced). Besides that, amps like that are usually not just amps, but they also have DACs in them, which basically makes it work like a dedicated soundcard improving the sound quality.

... or something like that.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 21:02    Post subject:
I have the 598's, they are awesome cans Smile

May just pick up that lil amp also Very Happy Wink
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 21:20    Post subject:
Well, technically the HD598s, just as 558s and their predecessors, don't really need a dedicated AMP, since they have a typical impedance for headphones of 50 Ohm (if I am not mistaken) and these days even the onboard Realtek solutions have amps in them good enough to drive headphones like that (you need to label the output specifically as heaphones instead of speakers though).
The benefit for those will be mostly from better DACs and hardware in general, so if you have a decent sound card, it's debatable how much getting an AMP will really give you.

EDIT: With that said, many people seem to claim that those benefit greatly from an AMP because their impedance is not quite 50Ohm for the entire frequency range.
On my part, I can only say that while on HD600s (which have an impedance of 300 Ohm) there is a definite boost in detail, clarity and punchier bass with setting the gain higher on my STX, I did not see such a dramatic effect on my 555s, other than them being louder Very Happy

Either way, I suppose a decent AMP is a good thing to invest in to complement a nice set of headphones Smile
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Sep 2014 23:17    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
How are these headphones for gaming? Very Happy


I can't tell you that personally yet, maybe the rest here can but as soon as I get to test them out I'll let you know Smile

MinderMast wrote:
paxsali wrote:
What exactly does the applifier do for you?

You would need an amp to properly drive headphones, mainly higher end ones, because they have a higher input impedance. Without an amp they will not sound quite like they should, with limited range and too "bassy" (because not all frequencies will be properly reproduced). Besides that, amps like that are usually not just amps, but they also have DACs in them, which basically makes it work like a dedicated soundcard improving the sound quality.

... or something like that.


Exactly this. Also with using this amp I don't have to dick around with driver support on any system. Just plug and listen to your shit.

KillerCrocker wrote:
I would love 598 only if it had skin material memory foam pads. Plush cushions are too itchy for me


lol no you wouldn't. You'd ask us about our opinion on what you should get then you would go off into a tangent about it being 10 dollars out of your range, not having usb connection on it and doesn't offer the new 12.3 virtual surround sound and you'd end up just getting something from Razer that cost 20 dollars less because you couldn't wait 2 weeks to save your money.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 00:17    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
I would love 598 only if it had skin material memory foam pads. Plush cushions are too itchy for me


lol no you wouldn't. You'd ask us about our opinion on what you should get then you would go off into a tangent about it being 10 dollars out of your range, not having usb connection on it and doesn't offer the new 12.3 virtual surround sound and you'd end up just getting something from Razer that cost 20 dollars less because you couldn't wait 2 weeks to save your money.

So true!!! Very Happy



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Raccoon




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 00:43    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
How are these headphones for gaming? Very Happy

Sennheiser's headphones are not usually built with gaming (or watching movies) in mind. They are first and foremost designed for listening to music (home use) - warm bass, natural instruments, a bit darkish tone.

What is amazing about Sennheiser (or what I like the most) is that they try to compensate for shit sound quality as much as possible; therefore even YouTube music sounds acceptable most of the time. (In contrary to, e.g., AKG Q701 which do the exact opposite - shit is emphasized to sound horribly bad, greatness is emphasized to be truly great.)

Personally, for gaming I would recommend something with studio characteristics - neutral, cold, bright, and analytical - to squeeze as much sound detail (footsteps, bullets, etc.) as possible. Cold, accurate bass should also be better for reproducing explosions.

However... open construction can (and will) produce wider soundstage* / soundfield which may increase immersion... and simply sounds pretty fucking cool. Very Happy So battlefield in... well... Battlefield MP matches may sound bigger, wider, more spectacular.

*If you don't believe me, just cover such headphones tightly with your palms. The difference can be staggering at times.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 00:56    Post subject:
paxsali wrote:
I read that the Burr-Brown (now TI) DAC 2704 is specified for only up to 16 bit and 48 kHz - both the USB nor the DAC can do more.

Is that correct and if yes, then why still choose the TOPPING VX1?


24 bit doesn't automatically mean better quality. IF you got some time read this Smile
http://www.head-fi.org/t/415361/24bit-vs-16bit-the-myth-exploded

To your point though, amazon says it's 24-bit but that chip you mentioned states it's 16 so I'm asking about it elsewhere. I think Amazon made a boobo


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 02:16    Post subject:
Thanks for the replies guys. ^_^


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 02:59    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. ^_^


I used to have 280 pro phones I used for gaming, worked really well especially companies who emphasizes sound work like Dice do for battlefield.com

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-280-Pro-Headphones/dp/B000065BPB


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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 03:46    Post subject:
Raccoon wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
I would love 598 only if it had skin material memory foam pads. Plush cushions are too itchy for me


lol no you wouldn't. You'd ask us about our opinion on what you should get then you would go off into a tangent about it being 10 dollars out of your range, not having usb connection on it and doesn't offer the new 12.3 virtual surround sound and you'd end up just getting something from Razer that cost 20 dollars less because you couldn't wait 2 weeks to save your money.

So true!!! Very Happy


Not true at all. Those times are long gone. Now I would never buy gaming headphones. Only audio gear. Bought xonar dg which have decent hp amp. I know it's not great but using it in hifi mode with all the extras disabled does for a good dac. ... and creative aurvana live which are among best sub 100bucks headphones. Basicly reskinned dennon d1100. They are fantastic. Times of buying gaming gear are long gone. Those hp were not tragic but normal audio gear is much better for the same price.

and don't start me with how creative is bad brand. They have non gaming line too and aurvana live! Are among most recommended headphones on headfi. Along with ad700 and m50


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 06:31    Post subject:
Yea, creative is so awesome they have the reputation for shit drivers and abandoning products to force you into something new of theirs.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 07:00    Post subject:
But headphones don't need drivers and i dint know but they are still producing call! Headphones after like 6 years


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 07:16    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
But headphones don't need drivers and i dint know but they are still producing call! Headphones after like 6 years


Keep stinking creative headphones away from Sennheiser especially from the 598's! Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 09:52    Post subject:
Welcome on board mate! Smile


I had HD555s with '595 mod' but for about year I'm enjoying my HD 650s and HUD-mx1 DAC. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 09:58    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
But headphones don't need drivers and i dint know but they are still producing call! Headphones after like 6 years


Keep stinking creative headphones away from Sennheiser especially from the 598's! Razz

I have a deep respect for creative products. They are around as long as I am in pc world. My first sound card in 1997 was sound blaster so its not a new newbie company.

And aurvana live! (and their new live!2 series) are fantastic headphones. Down with the best.
Senns are over expensive for what they do. Raw flat sound and terrible itchy velour pads which get dirty quickly. Not that it's a big deal but see? I can complain about great sennheiser too.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Sep 2014 10:30    Post subject:
You guys need to check out Superlux headphones, they have insane sound quality for the price (we are talking now on very low price, like 30 euro price range). They are basically High End headphones with lesser build quality (most of the models can be modded with AKG/Beyerdynamic velour pads for maximum comfort, about 50€ total with the mods). Currently using HD330 model, absolutely insane for the price (they are basically DT770 pro "clones").

http://www.head-fi.org/t/684424/superlux-hd-330-experiences-and-discussion
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