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| Werelds wrote: | | Gimp is crap. Even though it's capable of most of what Photoshop can do, the utterly horrifying interface prevents you from finding the ways to do it. |
start working with multiple monitors and you shall quickly understand the benefits of gimps gui
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[sYn]
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2013 02:00 Post subject: |
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| manu_xl wrote: | wtf.... the font is bad guys. please ditch linux asap!  |
No reason to ditch it - who the fuck is on it in the first place?
manu_xl talks the big talk but won't provide reasons for "superiority". If someone is bored and wants to check new things - all the power to them. But arguing of the superiority of one over the other requires some explaining.
Oh and BTW, Photoshop has a multiwindow interface mode, and that is infinitely better than GIMP also. |
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2013 02:16 Post subject: |
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Its cool, me and Leo control the botnets :O!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2013 02:18 Post subject: |
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The device in my pocket is actually running XNU kernel, not Linux. Think about it. 
So far I only hear from you bullshit zealot talk with nothing to back your silly claims. Microsoft and Apple control me. The hell you say. Thought about it, sounds as ridiculous as first impression.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 15th May 2013 15:04 Post subject: |
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Typical linux zealot moron; pop idiotic statements, can't produce one single proper claim, bailout for the most retarded reason so he appears "cool". Seriously, another great nfohump debate.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Jun 2013 02:34 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | I am interested to know why someone would take a Linux at home instead of Windows
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Typical linux zealot moron; pop idiotic statements, can't produce one single proper claim, bailout for the most retarded reason so he appears "cool". Seriously, another great nfohump debate. |
Ok let me try and do some reasoning. My honest opinion here, retarded or not i cant help it, it is what it is
1. I dont play games anymore so games not working is a non-issue
2. everytime i try to do something with fancy GUI programs -that i can never tell what exactly are they doing in the background- i fail miserably.
The linux way:
startx &> ~/.Xoutput
tail -F -n +3 ~/.Xoutput
exec i3 -V > ~/.i3/i3log 2>&1
tail -F -n +4 ~/.i3/i3log
The windows way:
Windows is trying to fix errors
Windows is trying to identify the problem
Windows is trying to find a solution
Now.. i know there must be debug methods and its probably lack of knowledge on my part but i always end up not understanding anything from what actually happened to my system. Assembly language or whatever its called is like egyptian to me
3. Windows software, right? I started with Microsoft Expression Web. The more i learned the more i noticed how limited it is. Learning to work with tons of gui features just to progressively dump them in favor of coding stuff myself. Moved to Dreamweaver, a bit more advanced than Expression Web. One week after and i was in the same spot. Not one code-generating gui feature that remained useful and tons of other, better ways to do stuff compared to the dreamweaver-way.
4. Ok but there are tons of software for windows, i can even use notepad. But why would i do it in Windows when i can do it in a nice and clean environment? I like tiling windows managers, like i3. Why would i ever use floating windows in a bloated environment when i can do my stuff much faster elsewhere ?
I'm perfectly happy with gimp/maya/mudbox for my newbie hobby design needs, As long as im not constrained by any company or personal desire to use a specific program that only works in windows i have no reason to ever boot it again.
Would like to hear some other pro-Windows things, preferably productivity-related, because no gaming and no true-type features mean nothing to me at the moment.
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Stige
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Jun 2013 06:14 Post subject: |
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If I didn't play games I would swap to Linux in an instant.
Absolutely no reason anymore to stick to Windows if you don't play games.
Owell, atleast my phone and my server has Linux to satisfy my Linuxy needs meanwhile.
If I could afford a second SSD I would definitely buy one for Linux.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Jun 2013 00:14 Post subject: |
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Sigh manu, you're getting really, really boring.
Linux isn't the holy grail of all things, as there are many things in it that fail. It is still the preferred OS for any server as it's more stable than Windows or OS X, it requires less resources than both, everything can very easily be either installed or compiled for it (compiling for Windows is often a pain in the ass if at all possible. OS X Server is a double joke as well, because Apple's implementation of BSD is fucking awful (sorry Leo); and while it may come with a lot of things pre-installed which you also have by default on Linux (Mail? Postfix. IMAP? Courier. Web? Apache. Doesn't get more standard than that), it typically uses old, unpatched, unstable versions.
But for desktop use, there is just too much that hampers performance for many tasks. Then there's the lack of a single UI standard to work off. Then there's the philosophical differences between distro's which make it hard to develop for all of them. Want to put something out there and have it easy to install? Be ready to compile at least 15 different versions just to cover the most popular OS's out there. End result is that they don't and leave it to the communities of each distro to do so.
And before you attempt to respond with any bullshit: I've run on Linux as my primary OS for 2 years and up until 6 months ago, I've always had a Debian/Windows dualboot. I've been managing Linux servers for over a decade and I currently have some 15-20 under my control. I would not trade Linux for Windows or OS X on those servers. But desktop? No.
As a web developer, Linux and OS X are perfectly on par. Where OS X gives access to a few more things (Photoshop, and no, GIMP is nowhere near that with its horribly confusing UI), getting the right versions of software on Linux is easier. Macports goes a long way to achieving that level of ease, but it's not quite there yet.
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Jun 2013 01:04 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Macports goes a long way to achieving that level of ease, but it's not quite there yet. |
Any particular reason for not using Homebrew ? The way Macports recompiled every library already installed on a system drove me mad  |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 13th Jun 2013 01:47 Post subject: |
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| WhiteBarbarian wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | | Macports goes a long way to achieving that level of ease, but it's not quite there yet. |
Any particular reason for not using Homebrew ? The way Macports recompiled every library already installed on a system drove me mad |
Macports has a few more exotic things in it.
More importantly though, it lets you replace some of OS X' stuff easily, whereas Homebrew's policy to not do that. Can be done, but it's easier with Macports. Ultimately though, matter of preference  |
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