Tainted Grail: The Fall of Avalon (first-person RPG)
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Jun 2025 08:33    Post subject:
Kezmark wrote:
If 5/10 is shit and 7/10 is average then do a 5-10 rating, or better yet 1-5 and stop pretending. It being like that for so long doesn't make it better.


I agree with that whole heartedly. It's pointless to have a 1 - 10 scale if 1 - 5 are forever restricted and never to be used. Although, I'm pretty sure in the late 90's, early 2000's, PC Gamer magazine assigned a few 3's and 4's - fuck if I can remember for what though.

Steam's rating system is even more worthless. Should be a numerical average and not softened by being behind shit like "Mostly Positive".


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Jun 2025 09:13    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
It's pointless to have a 1 - 10 scale if 1 - 5 are forever restricted and never to be used.


That 'Gollum' game:

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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Jun 2025 20:14    Post subject:
New patch! 1.03:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1466060/view/541107672579049462?l=english


harballaz wrote:
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jun 2025 12:59    Post subject:
Just finished the game. Didn't get the final ending as the game fucked me in the ass. It lets you load or continue pre ending after clearing one ending, but it actually blocks you from finishing it again for some ungodly reason Laughing

Well i'm gonna give this a 6-7/10. It floats in the middle. It started strong with chapter 1. Lots to do, lots of lore to read (not nearly bethesda levels of course) and it reminded me of a gothic game in a Elder scrolls suit. It's definitely not open enough to be strictly compared to Elder scrolls. It's just it's UI and gameplay systems that makes it similar.

Chapter 2 was nearly the same quality, but i couldn't help hating the city and find the surrounding areas utterly boring. I still did all i could and enjoyed it. But it was a letdown compared to the fist chapter.

Chapter 3 was junk. You could feel the developer fatigue seeping through every pore of the chapter. Some things were developed nicely, quite a bit of other things were underdeveloped and buggy.

I do think that the game demands too much of you choice wise without proper context. You establish early that people lie to you so it's even harder to make decisions. You never visit Camelot (which is another weird miss) and you feel utterly unqualified to make these coutry altering decisions when you don't have the slightest clue what each faction stands for or their history.

Arthur could have been more developed also. He was there a bit in the beginning but nearly vanished as the game went on.

Game is 10% story, 90% filler.

Unity seriously struggled with this game which made it a very mixed experience also.

6-7/10 sounds about right.


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mortis4321




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jun 2025 14:49    Post subject:
I've played the demo today and had Gothic/Oblivion vibes through it. The story sounded interesting, the same with RPG mechanics. Combat felt solid. I put it on my wishlist but after what you've wrote, I'll wait serious discount and maybe wait for some more patches before starting this one.

Good thing we have demos to try, but this one would screw me over, as I was almost ready do buy it if I didn't check price history on steamdb Cool
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Jun 2025 17:10    Post subject:
The first chapter indeed is the one that received the most care in terms of polish and content (as the obligatory pseudo-roadmap also illustrates), with the average quality of the quests/exploration progressively degrading over time until reaching bizarre placeholder-y lows near the end. Although the game can be both satisfying and underwhelming, the former sentiment prevailed in my case thanks to the trusty gameplay loop and writing that ranges from serviceable to inspired, which is still an achievement in this day and age.

The budgetary constraints are always evident technically and design-wise, with the progression that works fairly well until repetition takes over and the experience inevitably devolves into a classic marker-chasing humdrum. I'm not sure future patches can substantially change that part unless the core systems are overhauled and the little depth gets addressed, guess we'll see. Still, despite all the (kur)warts and limitations, the game offers a framework that appeals to me (unlike other unapologetically J formulae out there) and I appreciated the effort, for the most part.
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2025 16:26    Post subject:
Devs keep updates comming:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1466060/view/541109583272214823

I would like to highlight one important issue fixed:
Quote:
Horses now have eyes

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harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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lametta




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2025 16:38    Post subject:
Rifleman wrote:
Devs keep updates comming:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1466060/view/541109583272214823

I would like to highlight one important issue fixed:
Quote:
Horses now have eyes

Very Happy

so they kinda ignore performance optimizations mostly? (going by the most requested list and future updates)
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2025 18:02    Post subject:
Which is incredible. Get this. There is one location in the second zone. It's the last place before finishing up the zone. If you go down that hole before getting the quest to conclude the chapter, you're stuck there. You have to "unstuck" to get back up Laughing
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2025 08:24    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
so they kinda ignore performance optimizations mostly? (going by the most requested list and future updates)

Well, it's Unity after all. I read it somewhere on discord and someone, supposedly, was quoting someone from dev team that it is difficult to optimize it (Unity) and that's why game is DX11.
And with patches they try to optimize it:
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Improved performance and stability by making sure invisible HUD elements are truly inactive

So they work on it...


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Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2025 02:19    Post subject:


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PredOborG




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PostPosted: Tue, 1st Jul 2025 22:14    Post subject:
Loved it. But maybe I can't play long games anymore and after about 50 hours got kind of bored and was playing slower. Sad Don't even know what most of Act 3 was about. Just rushed in, some old guy told me "Go and finish work for all tribes and come back. Or you can just get inside, but everything is super strong.". So I was level 60 Mage and was killing everything with max 3-5 spells. Laughing

But game felt like it took the best from the old-school RPG with couple modern additions.
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jul 2025 16:39    Post subject:
Aaaand new patch has just dropped:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1466060/view/541109583272218566


harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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Rifleman




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Jul 2025 18:44    Post subject:
1.07 patch has just arrived:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1466060/view/541111486444994636


harballaz wrote:
Hey dont be so hard the little console eunuchs, they need time to aim their lil vibratin thumbstick.
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