Crusader Kings 3
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briangw




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2020 20:11    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
I refunded on Steam. I can still play on MS Store, but I don't think this game is for me, lol.

paradox games generally strike me as.. notoriously boring. unless you have an interest in the section of history or characters in question, it's hard to suffer through the highly abstracted gameplay. i feel like it is an acquired taste and i don't seem to have learned it myself although i did alright with Stellaris (you know, after it had dozens of DLC expansions and they re-tooled the gameplay entirely).


I can agree with this. As I've gotten older, I have a much bigger appreciation for history and have enjoyed reading books and watching movies/documentaries on WW2. In fact, I really wish I asked my late Grandfather about the African campaign when he was in the Army and stationed there. So I had tried and failed multiple times to get into the Hearts of Iron series but a coworker who loves these games actually took the time in HoI4 to do some coop and show the mechanics and now that game ended up being the one game on Steam I have played the most of. So now I want to take on this and EU4. He had told me that out of all 3 (CK2, HoI4, EU4), HoI4 was the easiest to absorb so now that CK3 is out I would "think" it would be easier to grasp than what I tried with 2. He had said that EU4 was going to be more difficult but I've been watching videos on it and I think I would enjoy it more as i really like the warfare side. So maybe we'll get a EU5 with an updated engine and better tutorial.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2020 20:27    Post subject:
"Who would you Kill, Marry, Fuck?"

Answer: Children!

Crusader Kings Edition of that game Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Sep 2020 20:31    Post subject:
awww shit, this game is on microsoft gamepass. Time to try it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2020 03:07    Post subject:


May the NFOrce be with you always.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Sep 2020 15:49    Post subject:
dethy wrote:
awww shit, this game is on microsoft gamepass. Time to try it Very Happy


It's on microless rinpass also Wink
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bronson




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2020 14:36    Post subject:
Played some more and overall it's probably the most complete PDX game on release in recent memory. Even without the inevitable dlc it's a solid game. The focus is a lot more on role playing compared to CK2. Also, it's a significantly harder game compared to its predecesor even for players familiar with the series like myself. If you play on hard with ironman turned on on your first playthrough you're going to have a bad time.

A lot of the annoying mechanics of CK2 were modified to be less troublesome and repetitive. There's an increased focus on court intrigue, so I expect a mod to play as a landless character to pop up sooner rather than later.

If you're new to the series don't touch the 867 start. It's a fucking massacre over there. Laughing
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2020 14:51    Post subject:
I tried the traditional Ireland unification campaign, but Sweden and others from outside the isles kept barging in, ruining the fun.

Then I saw that sub-Saharan Africa was filled to the brim with independent counties, not a single big boy around to bully the little guys, so I had plenty of room and time to just expand and spread my seed around the area. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2020 15:46    Post subject:
Yeah, Ireland is a bit tougher this time around. Still doable but a bit more chance of just blowing up in your face than the relatively easy campaign in CKII. Laughing

The African Lord of War seems a fun path. Will give it a go. :>


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2020 15:52    Post subject:
You guys should try the baltic high chieftains if you're up for some serious non-stop ass rape.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Sep 2020 16:30    Post subject:
They need to rework technology since it kinda forces you to have to grow big if you want to get out of tribalism. I just want to play tall as Dyre the Stranger's kids.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 11:24    Post subject:
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 11:58    Post subject:
I wish I could find the motivation to get into this game. But I think too much of it as a "conquer everything" instead of a "medieval sims" Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 13:23    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 13:35    Post subject:
CK did it again.
03.00: "It's late, I should wrap this up."
*What felt like 5 minutes*
05.30: "Fuck."

I was trying to make the Igbo's (Nigeria) great again. Kinda got screwed over for humping someone a day before I made her my concubine (I forgot okay! ). De shamans were not happy. Sad

Wife + three fuckbuddies is too much work. Got to reform dat religion. Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Sep 2020 22:20    Post subject:
Don't know if it is because of Wasteland 3 but the loading times are quite the positive in this game.
And while I usually hate extra launchers I do like that we get the option 'Resume' on it and we're back into the game in a few seconds.


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2020 05:26    Post subject:
I still need to get into this bitchin' game. Got it downloaded via gamepass but didn't try it yet lol


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briangw




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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2020 16:15    Post subject:
lol, I keep wanting to try and was hyped when they said it was easier to get into compared to 2 but still am nervous to click on Play. Hoping I'm close to finishing Wasteland 3 and then I'll start...that is if I finish before AssCreed Valhalla comes out.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2020 17:37    Post subject:
They need to fix religious fervor as it drops whenever a religious war is won or if there's a naughty bishop. And a whopping 10 for naughty bishops. Makes it so that Europe is riddled with heresies 50-100 years into the game.


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2020 18:20    Post subject:
They need to fix the AI because it loves its boats and attacking the player capital. You can camp two holdings outside your capital and you win most wars. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Sep 2020 21:13    Post subject:
briangw wrote:
lol, I keep wanting to try and was hyped when they said it was easier to get into compared to 2 but still am nervous to click on Play.


It's quite a lot easier to get into with CKIII. I really love their tooltip system, a great contributor to making it easier but not dumber.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 03:18    Post subject:
Fucking hell that last video is awful. Sounds like a retard. Laughing


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*heavy breathing*
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 18:26    Post subject:
Am i just unlucky or is their a problem with male heirs dying in battle.
All my male heirs died in (minor and victorious) battles or died from injuries and a lot of vassals are also suffering from this, half my council is female cause of it.
This is getting silly.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 18:37    Post subject:
so is the game that much better then ck1-2 or just ui is more pleasing ? cause its still a effin spreadsheet sim ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 18:39    Post subject:
No not unlucky, it was just a common thing in those days. Laughing
My rule of thumb: let your marshal lead battles.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 18:39    Post subject:
PickupArtist wrote:
so is the game that much better then ck1-2 or just ui is more pleasing ? cause its still a effin spreadsheet sim ?


If you didn't like CKII, don't bother.


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 19:38    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
Am i just unlucky or is their a problem with male heirs dying in battle.
All my male heirs died in (minor and victorious) battles or died from injuries and a lot of vassals are also suffering from this, half my council is female cause of it.
This is getting silly.


You can forbid heirs and council members to become commanders. Otherwise it's a sure fire way to kill off unneeded heirs and antagonistic vassals. Just let them charge a 5x enemy army. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 19:56    Post subject:
bronson wrote:
friketje wrote:
Am i just unlucky or is their a problem with male heirs dying in battle.
All my male heirs died in (minor and victorious) battles or died from injuries and a lot of vassals are also suffering from this, half my council is female cause of it.
This is getting silly.


You can forbid heirs and council members to become commanders. Otherwise it's a sure fire way to kill off unneeded heirs and antagonistic vassals. Just let them charge a 5x enemy army. Laughing


My heirs were not commanding any armies, my marshall was.
Am i missing an option to prevent a character for going into battle? I can't find it.
Characters die way to much imho, now they are almost certain to die after a couple of battles. I've had 6 males in one generation, 5 died cause of combat. And there wasn't even a single big battle with major losses at my side.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Sep 2020 20:05    Post subject:
friketje wrote:
bronson wrote:
friketje wrote:
Am i just unlucky or is their a problem with male heirs dying in battle.
All my male heirs died in (minor and victorious) battles or died from injuries and a lot of vassals are also suffering from this, half my council is female cause of it.
This is getting silly.


You can forbid heirs and council members to become commanders. Otherwise it's a sure fire way to kill off unneeded heirs and antagonistic vassals. Just let them charge a 5x enemy army. Laughing


My heirs were not commanding any armies, my marshall was.
Am i missing an option to prevent a character for going into battle? I can't find it.
Characters die way to much imho, now they are almost certain to die after a couple of battles. I've had 6 males in one generation, 5 died cause of combat. And there wasn't even a single big battle with major losses at my side.


It depends on what kind of man-at-arms you have and if they are countering the enemy army or not. If you don't have something to counter cavalry expect people to die more frequently. Also, the prowess level of each character is very important in battle, on par with the martial rating. You can forbid important people from going into battle from the champions menu.

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