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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Mar 2016 20:17    Post subject:
Boot rates are pretty "miserable" (first world white guy problems!)

I didn't set anything to auto, so my process on N3DS is still -> Hold down on D-pad to boot into HBL. Then I launch my cfw from HBL.

1/3 success rate to get into HBL on boot, then 1/3-ish to get into CFW. Not that great but, I'd rather that than brick from 2.1 downgrade until I feel better about it.

And really, taking another 15 seconds to reboot and try again is not a big deal. Razz

It can stay in sleep for "long" periods, I'd say like maybe just under a week?

You are definitely supposed to be able to boot EmuNAND and leave it in sleep mode, however one time I re-opened and get stuck on a black screen.. not sure if that was just bad luck or what. All I did was reboot as normal and it was fine.

But yah, totally cool to boot into emuNAND and use the close lid/sleep like normal.


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savov




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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 12:47    Post subject:
Yoy are with CakesFW, right?
Have you tried other CFWs for better boot rate. I'm reading, that ReiNAND has great boot rate for some N3DS users.

From another local store I ordered Cubic Ninja for just 10euro, which i think is a great price. Question is, is this ninjhax guaranteed to work with newer firmware?
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PostPosted: Sun, 27th Mar 2016 15:49    Post subject:
Pretty sure ninjhax works on 10.7, because it worked on 10.6 and the update didn't mess it up. You should be good!

https://twitter.com/smealum/status/709532036118093824

Yah I'm using CakesFW, maybe I'll check out another CFW see if that helps. I'll probably look into the 2.1 thing again soon and see if reports are more positive.


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savov




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2016 09:14    Post subject:
Just to update you:
I still don't have the console, because the shop messed up the documentation regarding payment and warranty and the courier had to send it back. Just talked with the seller, they will correct the documentation today and ship it again, so hopefully, should be here tomorrow. Neutral
Similar situation with Cubic Ninja, it's not shipped yet, and I doubt it will ever be.

On the bright side, that gives time for the scene to evolve, which it does really fast and I have hard time keep track of. The guide is updated with PlaiSysUpdater(and it was updated few times as well) and it's supposed to be stable as fuck.
There is this new RedNAND, which should have better performance then EmuNAND and take less space on the SD card.
And lastly ReiNAND was just updated and I think it makes it the "go-to" CFW for EmuNAND setups.
So I'm slowly building a folder with all needed tools to get started as soon as the console arrives (again). Hope it's as painless as possible...
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2016 14:43    Post subject:
Nice, sounds like a good time to jump in. Very Happy


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savov




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 17:16    Post subject:
Ok, so the console arrived - shiny New 3DS White with proper documentation and warranty this time. Got the original charger too. After the first boot and quick setup up process, I'm really impressed with the stable 3d thing. I've tried o3DS few times and it was a pain after few minutes, now it looks great.

The stock firmware is 9.8.0-25E, which should be fine to downgrade to 9.2, I hope?

I've downloaded PlaiSysUpdater v4, 9.2.0-20E(Full)_n3DS.zip and the starter.zip.
Now, as the console is charging, I'm preparing the mSD card. Formatting it to a single FAT32 partition with 32KB Cluster Size.
And I was kinda surprised to find out, that the mSD slot is under the backplate, which is screwed with two screws...

When the n3DS is charged, I will commence the operation. Very Happy And will update as I go. Fingers crossed!
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 17:19    Post subject:
I'm deeply envious of anyone that has an n3DS if not for the increased CPU speed (using CFW you can access that additional speed and *dramatically* improve framerate in a lot of older titles) but also because of the vastly improved 3D too. I love the 3D effect on my 3DS but it really is a pain to use due to the *incredibly* sensitive and narrow viewing angle, but everything I've heard about the n3DS says it's damned near flawless now.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 17:36    Post subject:
Heh. Yah.. I was a huge skeptic of the "improved" 3D. I almost never use the 3D on my launch O3DS, and then I got the N3DS and I was very impressed. I leave it on all the time now because no matter how I hold or where I'm looking, it's always working great. It is hugely improved.

EDIT:

Good luck savov! You can do it! You're well on your way. It will be a great victory to get onto 9.2!


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savov




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 18:48    Post subject:
I can't really comment on the improved 3D, as I used it for less then 10 minutes, but it sure looks way better then the o3DS.

As for the downgrade, here's a quick update:
Formatted the mSD card to a single FAT32 partiton and set the Cluster Size to 32KB. Copied over the needed files, and it took forever, like 15 minutes to copy ~250MB worth of files.

Then reinserted the card back to the n3DS and took another 10 mins or so to configure the network, which kept spamming me with errors. Turns out the n3DS does not support N-only wireless... Anyway, after a quick reconfiguration of the router and it was all set.

Started the browser, typed the URL, clicked go and it crashed straight to Homebrew Launcher. From there I installed menuhax and after a restart, theme load and another restart with holding L, it booted directly into the Homebrew Launcher.

So far, so good. About to start PlaiSysUpdater and will post(edit this one) again.

Quick Edit 1: Launched into PlaiSysUpdater on the first try, clicked Y and started checking the files... everything is green so far.

Quick Edit 2: Fuck sake... Everything was going "good" untill a black top screen showed and on the bottom screen:
"an error has occured. Hold down the POWER Button to turn off the power, then turn it on and try again. If the problem persists, please contact your local customer support centre. For contact details, check the Operations Manual or visit support.nintendo.com"

Shocked

Edit 3: With my heartbeat rates 200beats per minute, the first restart resulted in a black screen, but restarting without the mSD card booted successfully. System settings says 9.2.0-20E, so I guess that's a partial downgrade? What now?
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 19:07    Post subject:
Yep, that's a partial! Keep going, re-install menuhax, and keep trying the downgrade, over and over if you have to, until you get SysUpdater to literally tell you the downgrade is complete.


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savov




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 19:11    Post subject:
Thanks for the support!
I'm coping the files to the microSD card that came with the console and will try again. Or do I have to do something else first, before trying again?
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 19:25    Post subject:
No, just leave everything as is, leave the 9.2.0E FULL or whatever with the updates folder exactly as it was.

All you should do is reinstall menuhax and launch the same file to initiate the downgrade again.

EDIT: For the black screen, you should just be able to pull out the card like you did, and then re-insert after you boot up.

Then you should be able to install menuhax from there, then you shuold be able to leave the sd card in and continue to boot straight into HBL without black screen issue.


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savov




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 19:36    Post subject:
Well, what the... that's the message I got the second time:
http://i.imgur.com/pNP2Ssx.jpg (sorry for the flash, but without it its all messy)
What happened is that I once again booted browserhax, installed menuhax, started PlaiSysUpdater, clicked Y it checked few things, downgraded ONE file and said it's successful. It did not reboot, so I had to hold down the power button, but then it started normaly with the sdcard.
Is that it? Is it fully downgraded now? I'm not sure anymore...
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 20:23    Post subject:
If it said yes, then you should be good!

I've heard that it can hang at the powering off thing before, and if you rebooted you should be ok. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 20:50    Post subject:
I asked in GBATEMP and will now ask in IRC, just to be sure. But in GBATEMP one member already comfirmed I should be good to go:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/partial-downgrade.421161/

Hope I passed the downgrade part, I'm still shaking... Very Happy If its fine, there shouldn't be any serious risk of bricks with the rest of the procedure, correct?
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 20:52    Post subject:
You'll never be completely free of bricks UNLESS you go through OTP method, OR do a hardware modification.

But I'm confident you have a good downgrade, so yes, now you can proceed with setting up EmuNAND!

EDIT: Or whatever the guide says next. Razz

Beware though, like I siad, that guy seems to think OTP is safe, but, I'd heard it was bricking quite a few people when trying to downgrade to 2.1


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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 21:02    Post subject:
I won't be downgrading to 2.1. For now I want a 9.2 SysNAND + 10.7 EmuNAND. I will now try to install EmuNAND and ReiNAND. Following this tutorial:
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 23:40    Post subject:
I took my time, but following the video tutorial from above, just using the updated versions of the apps, I now have 2 nand.bin dumps (just to be safe Smile ), SysNAND 9.2 and an updated 10.7 EmuNAND. Everything went smooth, without any problems. I even installed Majora's Mask for the test.

From all the restarts I've done, so far the boot rate is 100%, hope it stays that way.

Once again, THANK YOU so fucking MUCH!
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Mar 2016 23:42    Post subject:
Awesome dude, congrats. Smile I wish I had that boot rate!

What is your boot like? Do you hold a button? Auto boot? BootCtr9?


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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 00:07    Post subject:
I made MenuHax 2.2 autoboot directly to CtrBootManager-1.9, from there it counts few seconds and starts ReiNAND 3.5.
I made it so if I hold L and turn it on, it will skip MenuHax and boot directly into SysNAND. So far I have done like 20 or so restarts, all of them successful.

Maybe you should try to update menuhax to 2.2 if it isnt already and boot ReiNAND instead of Cakes. Or maybe I'm just on a lucky streak and will start seeing worse boot rates soon...

As for cia... "demos" (Laughing) is there anything specific, or I just copy them to a folder on my sd card and install them with FBI? And should be safe to use updates and eshop, right?
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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 01:07    Post subject:
right


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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Mar 2016 01:27    Post subject:
eShop updating is safe, and yes, just install with FBI.


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 08:35    Post subject:
After a whole day with the console, here are some impressions.
Generally, the n3DS feels a lot better then the o3DS. And the white one looks so cute with them colored buttons. The stable 3D really is super stable and I played it the whole work day with 3D on (slider at 75% or so) without any problems. The battery lasted long enough (a bit more then 6 hours), but it takes like 3 and an half hours to fully recharge... Another minor problems are the mSD card placement and the power button, but these are small inconveniences.

As for the CFW, it works great and it still has 100% boot rate (hope it stays that way). Kinda bad, that for installing a CIA, you need at least twice as much free memory. But I did manage to get most of the games I wanted (for now) on my 16gb (with 13.5gb usable space).

Also just purchased Splinter Cell 3D for several reasons: I have really fond memories with Chaos Theory on PC back in the day and it still one of my favorite games; it's brand new for 3 bucks; and lastly, but most important - I need a game cartridge, to fill in the game card slot, because I don't like the empty hole in the front of the console. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Apr 2016 15:22    Post subject:
Yah I "suffered" with 16GB when I first went through it on O3DS, then when I ordered N3DS I ordered a 64GB card with it. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2016 18:31    Post subject:
Some more impressions:
Was on a trip to Italy and had both the N3DS and Vita with us for some real portable field gaming tests. Very Happy Surprisingly, with brightness set to minimum and wifi turned off, N3DS' battery managed to last even the longest of the bus trips. Averaging at about 6.5hours of Pokemon X and Ace Attorney.
The Super-Stable 3D is indeed super stable. (quick note: I become really motion sick really quick in buses, in a matter of seconds my head can start spinning like crazy) Really wanted to try how the 3D will affect me while in the bus, and ended up using it the whole time. It was just THAT stable and natural.

With turning the console off every nigh and booting to CFW every morning, so far I had only 2 freezes during boot, so my boot rate seems high enough.

Finally, my brand new copy of Splinter Cell 3D arrived today and there is something filling up the game card slot. Very Happy

All I need now is some sort of a carrying pouch, because I'm using the foamy plastic bag, that the console came in with.
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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2016 20:30    Post subject:
How comes you bought a game? Razz lol


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PostPosted: Mon, 11th Apr 2016 21:15    Post subject:
Laughing
Said it in my previous post - it's 3 bucks at amazon, and I didn't like the empty card slot at the front of the console. Got it mostly to fill that hole. Very Happy It's on the plus side, that I really love Chaos Theory. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 18:06    Post subject:
So I am crazy confused about the OoT3Dhax.

How is a 10.7 system supposed to take advantage of this? I see everyone saying the eShop "Select" version works, but I don't understand how to trigger the save file. All I see is people talking about the installer, but you can't run the installer because it's 10.7 and you need the hax to install things...?

Does this really require that 3rd party device? Why do people mention that another 3DS is needed?

EDIT: Ok, I think i get it... you use a currently exploitable system to load the installer to install the save file to a physical cart. And then you can pass the cart to a fresh 10.7 system and run the save file.

I got confused because I saw people talking about the eShop version worked as well, but I guess for that one you'd need that external 3rd party device.


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 19:24    Post subject:
I think that external 3rd party device only work for what is external, that is the cart.

Not sure how you can install a custom save to the eShop version from another exploited 3DS since I think save are encrypted with a per console key.


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PostPosted: Fri, 6th May 2016 21:28    Post subject:
Ah, well that confuses me further, oh well... We're going to go with the physical cart method. Very Happy


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