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tonizito
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https://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/5/32/495882/Arts--Culture/Screens/Netflix%E2%80%99s-Queen-Cleopatra-documentary-sparks-backl.aspx
| Quote: | The trailer for Netflix's upcoming historical documentary series, Queen Cleopatra, has sparked controversy among many Egyptians who believe it promotes "false Afrocentric ideas."
The trailer drew controversy after it was released online on Wednesday.
Many commentators have called on the leading streaming platform to cancel the show and some have launched an official petitions and are collecting signatures opposing.
Local news websites have quoted Egyptologists who insist that Cleopatra was Greek, including former Minister of Antiquities Zahi Hawass, who described the documentary's ideas as "falsifying facts."
The topic is still trending on social media, with angry commentators, including actors like Nabil El-Halfawy and Somaya El-Khashab, as well as other well-known influencers and celebrities.
The four-episode documentary, which is scheduled to premiere on 10 May, is produced by Jada Pinkett Smith and features black actress Adele James as Cleopatra. |
wokeflix strikes again 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 26th Apr 2023 10:27 Post subject: |
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They did an harry potter thing again, noooooOOooooOOooooo:
Why do th€y keep doing $tuff like this, supporting the ongoing genocide 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Apr 2023 05:53 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd May 2023 18:47 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOAJA92th_Y |
https://twitter.com/PlayerEssence/status/1653494593051299841
"whY dID NiNtEnDO blAcKLisT uS?  "
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th May 2023 23:45 Post subject: |
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vurt
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Promoting obesity, so courageous.
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vurt
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It's some feminine thing.. It was researched when it comes to kids. The conclusion is that boys doesn't need themselves to be represented, but for females they want the character to resemble themselves.
I sometimes joke that guys who plays as female in games are very gay. But if the research is correct it's more like the opposite, if you need to insert yourself - its mostly a feminine thing.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 20th May 2023 13:52 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | Yuri wrote: | https://twitter.com/TheDrum/status/1656729421502627840
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There's got to be some middle ground between 10/10 ultra fit women and those that look like orcs.
I sat at PAX for ~30hrs and watched thousands of females (who I assumed were into video games) walk past me. Most of them didn't look like that.
If they want people to feel better represented, campaign for more character creators. Then again, it's Dove. How are they relevant in this space? I'm sure they're doing it for altruistic reasons, right?  |
It wasn't american PAX, right?
Anyway, was just at folks chatting with them in the living room and out of nowhere some LGBTBBQ propaganda runs, with two geezers on a portulolese farm describing the genderless bullshit. Ad ends with the fox channel logo, what the actual fuck?
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| vurt wrote: | It's some feminine thing.. It was researched when it comes to kids. The conclusion is that boys doesn't need themselves to be represented, but for females they want the character to resemble themselves.
I sometimes joke that guys who plays as female in games are very gay. But if the research is correct it's more like the opposite, if you need to insert yourself - its mostly a feminine thing. |
I have to admit I like playing female chars because I like to look at dat pixel ass.
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@paxsali
Because as I say a lot: Everything in maco scale is a bell curve.
And the internet being around lets more that are even on any part of the curve, even the far starting end, self diagnose they are and able to post it to the world to see.
Lots of people think (or treat) the spectrum bell curve like a squared wave: Either you are or are not autistic. When its a sine wave, and some people in an attempt to 'be different' decide they are in that tiny pixel of a upward trend on the bell curve and claim they are near the peak of it.
Too many people see most mental illnesses as on/off switches: Either you are, or are not. That there is no gradient to peak levels of it. So if they have the smallest indicator they are, they assume the switch is on and they are fully that.
Same as people that claim OCD, just because you are more tidy than other people does not mean you are past the bar of requirement for diagnosis on the bell curve, and have a daily time wasting debilitating mental tick you have to actively manage.
| couleur wrote: | | I have to admit I like playing female chars because I like to look at dat pixel ass. |
You do know you can find real dat ass online in places that end in words like hub, and hamster right? 
I myself dont care what my character looks like be it: Me, some dude, some woman, a stick, a teapot, random object. Long as it gives me context of my spatial location, size and hitbox on the game screen I could care less. One of the reason it always baffled me why people pay for cosmetic clothes and gun skins. I get why they do. I just don't 'get' why they do (if that makes sense)
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| Posted: Sat, 20th May 2023 15:47 Post subject: |
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Too bad attractive female characters are a dying breed in gaming. It's mostly the Japanese devs carrying the torch now. Old eastern bloc countries, too.
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| Divvy wrote: | | Too bad attractive female characters are a dying breed in gaming. It's mostly the Japanese devs carrying the torch now. |
That's been an alien concept to me. Females, and video games females are two seperate boxes in my head.
I CAN distinguish a female character is made to look like an attractive female, that the polygons and textures are good at emulating what a good looking woman would look like. But never found any attractive or alluring. I guess like the difference of a painting of an attractive woman, and an actual attractive woman: One is a good analogy of what an attractive women would be, the other actually is one. (unless everyone doesn't see it that way also).
You could argue that a photo or video is same-same as that. But to me one is an actual person captured in a moment in time as they was. A painting is someone's trying to emulate that, and how they look and how light reflects to someone's eye to see them. (vs capturing actual light reflections that came from them)
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| Posted: Sat, 20th May 2023 15:57 Post subject: |
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| Divvy wrote: | | Too bad attractive female characters are a dying breed in gaming. It's mostly the Japanese devs carrying the torch now. Old eastern bloc countries, too. |
And modders... well, some of them at least 
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| DXWarlock wrote: | | Divvy wrote: | | Too bad attractive female characters are a dying breed in gaming. It's mostly the Japanese devs carrying the torch now. |
That's been an alien concept to me. Females, and video games females are two seperate boxes in my head.
I CAN distinguish a female character is made to look like an attractive female, that the polygons and textures are good at emulating what a good looking woman would look like. But never found any attractive or alluring. I guess like the difference of a painting of an attractive woman, and an actual attractive woman: One is a good analogy of what an attractive women would be, the other actually is one. (unless everyone doesn't see it that way also).
You could argue that a photo or video is same-same as that. But to me one is an actual person captured in a moment in time as they was. A painting is someone's trying to emulate that, and how they look and how light reflects to someone's eye to see them. (vs capturing actual light reflections that came from them) |
Its not often i say this, but what the fuck are you talking about? Talking about females and attraction like a robot is weird as hell man.
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Talking about how people see/dont see themselves represented in polygons, or how attractive those polygons are arranged, is weird as hell man (to me).
Women, and fake women (well people not just women, but its the topic at hand) are two totally separate 'things' in my brain.
One is people, the other is polygons in 3d space.
It might be related to how story/depth/engagement of characters in video games are never a 'thing' to me. Lack of free controlling of the story, removes it as a element of the game to me.
So they are not seen as reflections of people, imagined or not. They are as emotionally attachable to me as the gun, car, rock, tree, etc models in the game are.
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I don't buy that for a second. The moment someone talks about western games and females you're there in 10 minutes writing essays. You might not admit it, but there is something you're not telling. I'm just assuming you support this for female rights/feelings or whatever.
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I don't buy that for a second. The moment someone talks about western games and females you're there in 10 minutes writing essays. You might not admit it, but there is something you're not telling. I'm just assuming you support this for female rights/feelings or whatever. |
So I must have a freudian relationship to something to engage in a conversation about it?
And I write essays, without trying..about everything. Ask me about the price of tebags in Florida compared to Louisiana and how the tastes differs. I will accidently write an essay.
I talk in other threads, of course it would seem I post in the threads on topic that are in my experience, more than the ones I don't. And there is only like 15 of us left, so it narrows down who will reply.
I am 100% honest in that I have no attraction, or connection to any female videogame characters, nor even seen them as people...as they are not people. Just as the 1000's NPCS over the years I have made being GM of tabletop. Not one of them is 'people' to me. To the players maybe, even maybe they get attached to or miss them. To me they are a description, a persona bullet list, personality quirks, and stats I convey to emulate a person.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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And i don't buy that for a second either, unless of course you're talking about minecraft characters or games where they don't look like people at all. So no, i don't believe that. What i do believe though is that you WANT to see female characters as polygons and stuff. It's not untrue afterall, but our brains don't always work the way we want and when we see pretty things we find them pretty. Would a digitalized crystal flower in a amazing photo by some artistic person be pretty? Maybe not if you find this convo to be a competition like discussion, but you would. It's basically the same. Or a drawing, painting or anything made up. It's not real, but you find it pleasing all the same.
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I'm trying to be 100% honest. What do I have to gain lying about how I internally see game characters? it's not a competition of who is right, its me sharing how it works in my head. I KNOW I am the one in the 'wrong' and my wiring is different than average joe. I'm not trying to convince you how everyone else sees it is 'wrong'. It's like saying liking blue over green is 'wrong'.
This is simply me trying to convey (poorly) how it works for some people for those that don't know.
| Stormwolf wrote: | | What i do believe though is that you WANT to see female characters as polygons and stuff. It's not untrue afterall, but our brains don't always work the way we want and when we see pretty things we find them pretty. |
Exactly. Our brains dont always work how we want. And mine does not see them that way even if I want it to. Why would I 'want' to see them as polygons? What purpose of..avoiding (I'm assuming?) a thing, would I gain? Why would I need emotions, or avoid them, for a intangible thing my GPU is making? It has no feelings about what I think or lack of.
The only place it mostly works is in VR for me like Virt-a-mate. And it's the 3d part that tricks my brain into the seeing the really well made women (some of them suck) as tangible objects.
| Quote: | | Would a digitalized crystal flower in a amazing photo by some artistic person be pretty? |
Pretty? Yes. A flower, no. It's an emulated representation of a flower. I would not want to try to grow it, smell it, or feel it. I think "Wow you really nailed the way a flower looks". But I have no draw to it as a primal reaction to how a flower makes me feel. I have draw to it on how well they replicated a flower and the talent it took.
Same with female or male characters. Are they a representation of an attractive person yes? A person? No. I would not want to hit on, admire physique of, or get aroused/'easy on the eyes' feelings from it.
I dont know how else to explain it to you other than honestly. They have zero 'primal brain' impact to me. None.
In single player games I play that has random character options, I hit random once, and go with what it gives me. Unless its 3rd person and the character is in the way of screen space. Then I pick the smallest body, with the smallest head, and smallest least noticeable outfit. Maybe in multiplayer games I pick something that will amuse/make my friends laugh, usually something goofy or dumb. Since I myself dont care what I am.
I lack the ability to live vicariously through characters in video games. So it translates to I dont care who is my catalyst.
Hence why I rarely play story or character centric video games. Those games do nothing for me.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Double post..but maybe it will help, or make it more confusing who knows.
Like how I am fascinated by true crime and serial killer audio books. But have no draw to shows like CSI, or movies like Silence of the lambs, Se7en or Natural Born Killers.
(Well American Psycho was ok. But less for the killing and more for the representation and thought process of Bateman)
One is real people that did real things. The other is make believe. Fake people killing fake people isnt scary, engrossing, or intriguing to me. They are two seperate baskets in my head that have no overlap: One is events that happened, the other is a made up story someone wrote that never happened.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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