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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 03:07 Post subject: |
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lmao.. You do realize there is a thing called rigor mortis, correct?
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Jenni
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 03:43 Post subject: |
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What about Rigor Mortis and how does it apply to that video?
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 04:08 Post subject: |
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Oh dear god. Have you ever hunted and killed an animal larger then a mouse? I'm no fucking doctor, or even nurse, but here is a simple explanation of what happens. The cells of the muscles are still "alive" per say and so what you happen to get is that the animal/human is indeed "dead" but the cells which make up the muscles contract and such for a little while after death. The animals you see in that video are in no way alive. IF they somehow were when he was chopping off their appendages they would then be killed due to shock.
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Jenni
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 04:12 Post subject: |
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Dear God I've never even killed a mouse.
Hello!
I'm from England. Hunting with guns is impossible with our sensible gun laws.
But I know what Rigor Mortis is, you don't need to be a gun fanatic to know that. So I shall ask again, what about Rigor Mortis and how does it apply to that video?
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 04:15 Post subject: |
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Those gun laws sure sound "sensible" when you dont even have the freedom to hunt.
Oh - And you obviously don't know what rigor mortis is if you dont realize that when an animal twitches like that its because of it.
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Jenni
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 04:22 Post subject: |
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If the expense of having my right to hunt curtailed means I don't have to worry about some nutcase blowing my head off or worse still a loved one being hurt by a weapon, then yes I think it's an expense worth paying.
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 05:13 Post subject: |
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1.) Most gun related deaths in the US are gang related. Most gang members obtain firearms in illegal ways. So completely banning guns would do jack shit.
2.) So let me get this right. If your kid blew his own head off for being a dumbass and playing with the gun. You would blame it on the gun? Yeah, Ok. Its called EDUCATION, and SAFETY. If you hide your gun and your ammo in some random place expecting not ever having to tell your kid about it, thats your fucking fault, not the guns. You should have taken the responsibility to show your kid what the gun was really all about, so he knew it wasnt a toy. Then on top of that you should put it in a gun safe/safe/lock it up. If you do those 2 things, I guarentee there would be almost no "accidental" gun deaths.
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 05:24 Post subject: |
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Anyone else watch Penn and Teller Bullshit. The episode about PETA is great they show how much of a corperation PETA is and how hypacritical they are. Like they have a animal shelter but yet they kill 2/3rd of the animals they shelter a year. Also quote from nailbiter
"FOR THE ENVIRONMENT Animal agriculture takes a devastating toll on the earth. It is an inefficient way of producing food, since feed for farm animals requires land, water, fertilizer, and other resources that could otherwise have been used directly for producing human food."
So if we didn't have these animals contained (caged however you want to put it) on this land where would they go? Your back yard my back yard everywhere they want to go because they don't abide by our laws. Don't you feel sorry for the people who have there house destroyed because a deer was roaming around and decided to say hi. You are forgeting one very important variable in your equation.....US. You are more worried about saving these animals that you don't see how they have kept us alive and moving and by removing them you take away so much. Not everyone loves vegtables day in and day out. Also making fake meat is one of the silliest things i have ever seen you don't want to harm animals but yet you still lust after the smell and taste of there meat.
Last limiting peoples choices of what they do is the most stupid thing a person can do in a free country. We are giving you all the choice to be veggies we are not trying to stop you. All your doing by trying to force us into your lifestyle is starting a cycle you don't want to see in motion. When you force people to do something they don't want to do there are consiquences.
I love animals as much as the next person and the video that is always shown is not the typical way animals are treated. Yes there are people who do throw around chicken and mistreat animals but instead of trying to change a whole way of life try forcing the industry's to wise up to the mistreatment that is caused at there production warehouses.

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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 10:50 Post subject: |
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Mchart wrote: | 1.) Most gun related deaths in the US are gang related. Most gang members obtain firearms in illegal ways. So completely banning guns would do jack shit.
2.) So let me get this right. If your kid blew his own head off for being a dumbass and playing with the gun. You would blame it on the gun? Yeah, Ok. Its called EDUCATION, and SAFETY. If you hide your gun and your ammo in some random place expecting not ever having to tell your kid about it, thats your fucking fault, not the guns. You should have taken the responsibility to show your kid what the gun was really all about, so he knew it wasnt a toy. Then on top of that you should put it in a gun safe/safe/lock it up. If you do those 2 things, I guarentee there would be almost no "accidental" gun deaths. |
1.) The easier a gun is to get the more chance they're going to get it.
2.) Although if there were no guns to educate people about or to hide, then there really wouldn't be a problem would there?
You really are thick Mcfart, I'm really winding you up. It's fa too late for you gun loving yanks to change your ways. Regarding guns, the cat is already out of the bag. It would be pointless to change your laws now. Although I do have to laugh when some of you nutcases quote the founding fathers need for a standing militia. Hello! It's the year 2005.
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 12:30 Post subject: |
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Mchart wrote: | Those gun laws sure sound "sensible" when you dont even have the freedom to hunt.
Oh - And you obviously don't know what rigor mortis is if you dont realize that when an animal twitches like that its because of it. |
You obviously don't know what rigor mortis is. The fact that it doesn't set in until at least 2 hours after death invalidates your whole argument there.
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 16:36 Post subject: |
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I thought Rigor mortis was when the body and joints stiffen after death...?
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 17:27 Post subject: |
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...Rigor mortis makes the body STIFF and STALE and COMPLETELY STILL, and has nothing to do with muscles. What Mchart may be referring to is spasms, which can occur post mortem, nerve-twitches that make you shake and wobble....) |
My point exactly...
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 20:15 Post subject: |
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Jenni wrote: | Mchart wrote: | 1.) Most gun related deaths in the US are gang related. Most gang members obtain firearms in illegal ways. So completely banning guns would do jack shit.
2.) So let me get this right. If your kid blew his own head off for being a dumbass and playing with the gun. You would blame it on the gun? Yeah, Ok. Its called EDUCATION, and SAFETY. If you hide your gun and your ammo in some random place expecting not ever having to tell your kid about it, thats your fucking fault, not the guns. You should have taken the responsibility to show your kid what the gun was really all about, so he knew it wasnt a toy. Then on top of that you should put it in a gun safe/safe/lock it up. If you do those 2 things, I guarentee there would be almost no "accidental" gun deaths. |
1.) The easier a gun is to get the more chance they're going to get it.
2.) Although if there were no guns to educate people about or to hide, then there really wouldn't be a problem would there?
You really are thick Mcfart, I'm really winding you up. It's fa too late for you gun loving yanks to change your ways. Regarding guns, the cat is already out of the bag. It would be pointless to change your laws now. Although I do have to laugh when some of you nutcases quote the founding fathers need for a standing militia. Hello! It's the year 2005. |
If there were no frozen ham hocks then we wouldnt have wives beating their husbands over the head with them. Whats your point?
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Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005 20:44 Post subject: |
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Wonderful job copy and pasting that from another website fisk. |
So fucking what? even if he did, it proves you were wrong.
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Posted: Sat, 19th Mar 2005 05:17 Post subject: |
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Wonderful job copy and pasting that from another website fisk. |
Actually, only half of it is copy&pasted, still - it's direct information, not made up shit like the crap you usually pull here. Get over it.
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Jenni
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Posted: Sat, 19th Mar 2005 05:24 Post subject: |
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If there were no frozen ham hocks then we wouldnt have wives beating their husbands over the head with them. Whats your point? | Theres two points. One is a gun is designed for one purpose and that is to kill. The other point I mentioned. When the founding fathers made the constitution they needed a standing militia, not really needed now is it.
Please don't requote yourself. It shows laziness and it's pointless.
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Posted: Sat, 19th Mar 2005 14:45 Post subject: |
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Mchart got served (again).
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Posted: Sat, 19th Mar 2005 20:04 Post subject: |
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fisk wrote: | Mchart got served (again). |
Come on fisk, what's with comments like this? :\
Stop trying to instigate shit.
You're a good guy, no need to be like that.
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Posted: Sun, 20th Mar 2005 00:26 Post subject: I watched the video |
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What I can't understand is why can't they kill the animal before they skin it? It that so difficult?
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Posted: Sun, 20th Mar 2005 00:33 Post subject: |
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Dunge wrote: | Same thing for me... I didn't post that video because I care about animal who die to make fur and food,.. in fact I agree we should keep them coming. The thing is how these guy make it,.. when it's done nicely with precaution and rules it's ok but not when they try to keep them alive as long as they want and have fun doing it in a dust backyard or something... |
Yeah, I never really had a problem with fur, it's just the fact that the animal is alive during the whole skinning process. Are those people too stupid to kill an animal before they skin it?
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Posted: Sun, 20th Mar 2005 23:23 Post subject: |
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Jenni wrote: |
1.) The easier a gun is to get the more chance they're going to get it.
2.) Although if there were no guns to educate people about or to hide, then there really wouldn't be a problem would there?
You really are thick Mcfart, I'm really winding you up. It's fa too late for you gun loving yanks to change your ways. Regarding guns, the cat is already out of the bag. It would be pointless to change your laws now. Although I do have to laugh when some of you nutcases quote the founding fathers need for a standing militia. Hello! It's the year 2005. |
In Switzerland every household is required to have an assault rifle and crime there is lower than Great Britain where all guns have been banned.
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