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| Mchart wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Buying a 2GB card today.. not a good choice. |
Can you present us with an objective benchmark @ 1080p resolution supporting this claim? |
I'm not talking about the games already available.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 14:02 Post subject: |
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TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 14:03 Post subject: |
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Wouldn't that technically mean that any card you buy with any amount of VRAM isn't a good choice since the probability of games in the future bottlenecking it might happen?
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 14:07 Post subject: |
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| Prefetian wrote: | Wouldn't that technically mean that any card you buy with any amount of VRAM isn't a good choice since the probability of games in the future bottlenecking it might happen?
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No, it's improbable a 4GB card would be VRAM bottlenecked in the next x years, and impossible a 6GB one would.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 14:23 Post subject: |
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That's horseshit, as a 4GB Kepler card already *is* bottlenecked by the crippled bandwidth. It may have 4GB, but it's not going to be able to deal with it fast enough for it to be really useful.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 14:29 Post subject: |
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And I talked about a Kepler card where? All I said was:
| consolitis wrote: | | Buying a 2GB card today.. not a good choice. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 14:36 Post subject: |
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Anyway, i want to see a game this year that is pushing so mad textures that it will bring 2GB memory to the knees @ 1080p. Next year is whole different thing, then we get new GPUs anyway, better upgrade then.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 16:10 Post subject: |
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It's myopic. If you are well aware you'll have to upgrade not that far in the future though, then it's ok.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 16:39 Post subject: |
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one buys hardware for todays standards, not for next year and not for tomorrow.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 17:53 Post subject: |
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| Paintface wrote: | | one buys hardware for todays standards, not for next year and not for tomorrow. |
Exactly!
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 18:10 Post subject: |
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| Paintface wrote: | | one buys hardware for todays standards, not for next year and not for tomorrow. |
I think a lot of people buying hardware now will be thinking about how well it will perform once next gen consoles and games are released, because it really isn't that far off.
This was a good read, some interesting replies.. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1754176
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 18:37 Post subject: |
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I was thinking of possible games which would use 2GB VRAM fully, Skyrim came to mind. My modded Skyrim eats every MB of my 2GB VRAM. I'd personally play it safe and buy a 4GB edition, but I am someone who rarely upgrades.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 19:15 Post subject: |
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Between 2GB and 4GB I'd go for the 4GB version if the price difference isn't too big, games are starting to get rather close to 2 GB VRAM usage now, Bioshock Infinite for example.
(Then again the streaming system in that build of UE3 seems to be a bit more dynamic and will make use of more VRAM if available, much like with how Windows Vista and later caches system RAM.)
Unsure how much the actual screen resolution, anti-aliasing and anisotropic-filtering affects things but that's also something to consider.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 19:29 Post subject: |
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It's about £70 price difference. I have my two GTX 460's on ebay at the moment, so that could be another 60-100 pounds. I saw an MSI GTX 460 sell for £71, but I'm not expecting to get that much. Got an old 8800 I can use once they are sold.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Apr 2013 20:34 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | Between 2GB and 4GB I'd go for the 4GB version if the price difference isn't too big, games are starting to get rather close to 2 GB VRAM usage now, Bioshock Infinite for example.
(Then again the streaming system in that build of UE3 seems to be a bit more dynamic and will make use of more VRAM if available, much like with how Windows Vista and later caches system RAM.)
Unsure how much the actual screen resolution, anti-aliasing and anisotropic-filtering affects things but that's also something to consider. |
that's just what gpu monitoring apps report. doesn't mean all of that vram is actively in use. i have a 2gb card, after 30 minutes of bioshock all vram gets filled up (according to afterburner) but i don't have any slow downs. so far every single article investigating 4gb vs 2gb showed that 4gb is useless, even on huge resolutions and multiple displays.
price difference, well, for 4GB gtx670 you can get 2gb gtx680, which will rape 4gb 670 
i kinda feel bad for a people who buy 4gb gtx670/680 cards, but i guess that's what they deserve for being so gullible
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Apr 2013 07:43 Post subject: |
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Or just buy AMD and enjoy the performance WITH the "required" amount of memory for future use aswell?
Oh, and save some money on top of that aswell.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 07:51 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 10:03 Post subject: |
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I heard that next gen games will use approximately 4GB VRAM if you use atleast 800x600 resolution upscaled to 720p without AA.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 11:57 Post subject: |
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Imma favo this topic, let's converge next year back here 
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 12:21 Post subject: |
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good luck, next year this topic will be as irrelevant as 4GB vram on current gpus.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 12:49 Post subject: |
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So a GPU is only 1 year good before it needs replacement?
In that case, say hello to my ancient dual HD6870, almost as good as your 670, yet mine are way older (since oct. 2010) , for even lower the price (€175 and €150)
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 13:01 Post subject: |
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Not everyone can afford a new card every 1/2 years.
Plus your statement is still not valid, with exception from BioShock and C3, i run EVERY game at 1080p with 60 fps and maxed out graphics. (yet my cards are 2++ years old already)
By the time the new consoles hit and (hopefully) have positive impact on PC gaming aswell, my cards will be 3 years old and only then (if the above is the case) will they need replacement.
If by then only a handfull of games can't run maxed out, but the rest can, i don't see a point in upgrading.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 13:13 Post subject: |
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not sure why are you keep talking about your own cards, it's getting a bit offtopic. these 4gb cards are worthless. if you read some reviews you'll see that i'm not talking out of my ass. for example hardocp did extensive review of 4gb model, they put it through rigorous testing, multiple displays, sli, high resolution, most demanding games, all that jazz where theoretically high vram card should shine, yet 4gb cards showed pretty much 0 benefit over 2gb counterparts.
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