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| garus wrote: | | Heard about the stupid ending, not ever gonna bother with it. It's enough hearing it's comparable to lost and religion bullshit. |
I don't know who compared this with Lost without proper context, while on Lost you have a clearly supernatural environment and a group of characters trying to find their way in that supernatural reality, in Battlestar Galactica you have a believable reality, the only supernatural aspect is the characters own perspective of the world, it is the characters that dwell into supernatural thinking and faith in a perfectly natural reality, not the other way around!
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 14:49 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 14:52 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | | Heard about the stupid ending, not ever gonna bother with it. It's enough hearing it's comparable to lost and religion bullshit. |
You're missing out.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 15:12 Post subject: |
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| Nhiumewyn wrote: |
Or in other words, not enough explosions, chicks with mini squirts or unreal scenarios where giant alien robots come to ask the help of an high school student with self esteem issues.  |
I get it. You love soap operas. And the drama, the crying, back stabbing etc. In space!
I expected a space adventure not a soap opera drama. 
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 21:59 Post subject: |
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alight lol
its an ok show for a sci fi show.
I love how people called stargate universe a drama shit show when this has way more drama than Spanish soap operas. ugh. the religious stuff is ok. it is frustrating though. characters are ok. overall story couldve been done in 2 seasons. so many disgusting filler episodes. so much false hope...
its not better than star trek. its not better than firefly. its ok. its a soap opera set in space. it is better than sgu but only.because it has a huge following for some reason...
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 22:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 22:23 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | star trek and firely is the equivalent of Xena: Warrior princes while BSG is LOTR in comparison they dont play in the same league to to be honest, i feel bad for even mentioning them |
bsg is nowhere near close to lotr. even though I hate lotr, but its better than this. startrek is close to bsg. maybe firefly isn't, but adding xena into the mix is just lol. bsg stands in the same room as crash and many other preachy tv shows and movies. nearing the end.of the series they just force feed you shit to the point if you really don't understand.what's going on you deserve to be shot for being retarded. it started as a seemingly smart show but come on... at the end its like a herp a derp shut your mouth and listen cause were gonna explain everything for 20 hours so that you'll think you're smart. uuugh. Its a good scifi show, but totally not what I was.expecting when.our model citizens praised the hell out of it.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 22:23 Post subject: |
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BTW, BSG has won a Peabody Award for its writing. But hey, they must be "soap opera" loving derps too.
Sounds legit, coming from the usual NFOhump hurrdurrs.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 22:43 Post subject: |
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all through out the series or in the beginning? the writing is strong but it did have very weak episodes as well. characters are strong (same problem I have with game of thrones and that's cause the acting on some parts is just great). but it really isn't any different than a regular soap opera structure.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 23:16 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | all through out the series or in the beginning? the writing is strong but it did have very weak episodes as well. characters are strong (same problem I have with game of thrones and that's cause the acting on some parts is just great). but it really isn't any different than a regular soap opera structure. |
That's your opinion Waldo, in my opinion BSG is in the same league as Band of Brothers, The Wire and The Shield, in fact I will go as far as stating that BSG is overall better than shows like The Wire and The Shield. You have one sort of taste, I have another, let's leave it at that.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 23:29 Post subject: |
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| Nhiumewyn wrote: | | That's your opinion Waldo, in my opinion BSG is in the same league as Band of Brothers, The Wire and The Shield, in fact I will go as far as stating that BSG is overall better than shows like The Wire and The Shield. You have one sort of taste, I have another, let's leave it at that. |
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 23:42 Post subject: |
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This show is in my 'to-watch-someday' list since forever along with The Wire.. I know they're both awesome, but it's really hard for me to find some time to watch them. But I will do it, damn sure I will
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Apr 2012 23:57 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | This show is in my 'to-watch-someday' list since forever along with The Wire.. I know they're both awesome, but it's really hard for me to find some time to watch them. But I will do it, damn sure I will |
you can watch the wire in 10 years and it'll hold up, even now when im watching the wire for the first time it looks and feels great apart from the 4:3 but you get used to it quickly. this show, however doesn't really age that well. so in my honest opinion if it is a show you have to watch because some elitist people say they won't talk to you because you never experienced the phenomena of BSG, then watch it asap. as it won't look as good in a few years. some cg scenes were laughable. story is great though. But visually it will not look as good the longer you stay away. so watch it asap if you must.
Nhiumewyn, I agree that it's you opinion, so leave it to your opinion. I disagree. It's not better than the wire. It is better than band of brothers. I never found anything redeeming in BOB series. It looked great. Acting wasn't top notch and the characters are forgettable unless you've devoted your life to the show. But again, that your/my opinion.
All in all, I rate BSG a point lower than farscape in terms of sci fi shows. On the full what ever it brings to the table bit, its a point lower than star trek series all throughout. It is a mile better than what ever shit star wars bring to the table.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 11:54 Post subject: |
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Farscape, Babylon 5 and the old Stargates are still the best scifi out there.
Those are the only ones that have big plot arcs, enough good science, healthy doses of both drama/fun and are completely atheist.
Then comes BSG already. It beats all others in terms of writing and plot arcs but well...
Then Star Trek.
Fuck Firefly it was good but 13 episodes werent enough by a longshot to develop a really good story.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 11:58 Post subject: |
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| Extraordinary wrote: | Farscape, Babylon 5 and the old Stargates are still the best scifi out there.
Those are the only ones that have big plot arcs, enough good science, healthy doses of both drama/fun and are completely atheist.
Then comes BSG already. It beats all others in terms of writing and plot arcs but well...
Then Star Trek.
Fuck Firefly it was good but 13 episodes werent enough by a longshot to develop a really good story. |
Farscape was good but better than Star Trek or BSG... come on u are dreaming.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 12:28 Post subject: |
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| Extraordinary wrote: | Farscape, Babylon 5 and the old Stargates are still the best scifi out there.
Those are the only ones that have big plot arcs, enough good science, healthy doses of both drama/fun and are completely atheist. |
religion was important in bsg. so a sci fi show doesn't need to be atheist. difference between bsg and b5, fs, sg (lol) is that bsg was actually a serious drama show. whereas the others weren't. it took it self seriously. held that position fro begining to end. it knew what it wanted to be.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 15:44 Post subject: |
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outer limits when it returned was shit.
even now watching the old classic episodes they're nowhere near as complex and fantastic than those of original twilight zone. sadly when twilight zone came back it was also shit. 
Would love to see a weekly show like the twilight zone / outer limits with the quality of imagination that they had. Fuck... what do we have now that comes remotely close to that? Nothing.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 16:15 Post subject: |
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'the masters of science fiction' was good fun.. they should have made it a proper series
nothing else comparable comes to mind
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 16:18 Post subject: |
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not even worth a download
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 18:53 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: |
religion was important in bsg. so a sci fi show doesn't need to be atheist. difference between bsg and b5, fs, sg (lol) is that bsg was actually a serious drama show. whereas the others weren't. it took it self seriously. held that position fro begining to end. it knew what it wanted to be. |
You're right, nothing says sci-fi cannot be religious or spiritual or luddite.
In fact no genre has to adhere to such tight rules.
There are enough counterexamples..or what about L.Ron Hubbard, his sci-fi basically became a religion. But it was still sci-fi.
Yet I prefer sci-fi to be non religious. And I wanted better answers.
Thats why I lowered my BSG rank even though it is superior to all other shows in most aspects.
About the Drama, theres nothing to say against that. It was a refreshing change.
BSG had a certain mood and a fitting soundtrack and it pulled that through until the end.
Star Trek was great too, DS9 was quite awesome, TNG had a lot of fantastic standalone episodes.
But there were also a lot of really crappy episodes, high cheese factor and mindless technobabble.
Stargate technobabble = accurate, good hypothetical science
Star Trek technobabble = crap thats made up to sound scientific
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 19:07 Post subject: |
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its not like it propagates any earth religion lol.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Apr 2012 21:15 Post subject: |
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| Nhiumewyn wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | | all through out the series or in the beginning? the writing is strong but it did have very weak episodes as well. characters are strong (same problem I have with game of thrones and that's cause the acting on some parts is just great). but it really isn't any different than a regular soap opera structure. |
That's your opinion Waldo, in my opinion BSG is in the same league as Band of Brothers, The Wire and The Shield, in fact I will go as far as stating that BSG is overall better than shows like The Wire and The Shield. You have one sort of taste, I have another, let's leave it at that. |
Yeah well, it's what you want in a show. I want a show with production value, and no show can match those of HBO (game of thrones, the wire, boardwalk empire etc.). I love a show with many characters and lots of different filmsets.
Breaking bad revolved aroundd 6 filmsets and a few misc. (on top of my head, The laundry, house of the main characters, the restaurant, police station and about 3-5 desert locations), it's ridiculous and the scenes are too slow, not a lot of shit is happening etc.
Just a matter of, what do you look for in a show and what you value the most.
There is no best show for everyone, some ppl like fatties, others like skinny girls, blacks, asians, pedobears, necros. etc
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Soooo, i just finished watching all 4 seasons for the first time ever.
Took me little over 1.5 weeks to finish it.
Well coming from Stargate, it was not what i expected, not by a long shot.
Buuuut, eventually the show grabbed me and i got into it.
Now, Baltar was one annoying little twat, whenever there was a scene with him it became annoying. This redeemed itself later on in the show tho and was less annoying into S4.
Admiral Adama. Why the fuck put such an old guy with fucked up face and teeth in command of the ship. He looks very weak and his acting was ok-ish. Especially scenes where he had to cry where a fucking disgrace and almost had me puke with these close-ups of his teeth sticking out.
Saul.. Well IMO he was one of the better ones, even tho he was annoying at the very start, he became a very attached character for me. His acting was superb.
The rest was kinda so-so.
The ending was ok-ish, altho i rather had seen something else, but at least BSG got an ending, unlike SG:U 
BSG was a fine filler for the summer stop, but not something i would watch again very soon.
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| Posted: Mon, 22nd Jul 2013 01:03 Post subject: |
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Olmos "acting was ok-ish"
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Might not appeal to people who like big explosions, crappy B-actors and pew-pew all the time like Stargate though.
