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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Oct 2021 09:53    Post subject:
There is nothing wrong with the <operating system>, if you just wanna enjoy it for what it is? Smile Bugs aplenty, sure, and no magical patch will fix them, ever! Wink But a good ride it is, and a solid 8.5/10 from me. Everything is gonna get 'moaned' about now, it's the way of this world today, self entitlement brat nonsense, ya know, and most coming from those who ain't even spent a penny on the damn thing! Laughing

Never listen to the cunts on here, or anywhere, lol, as most don't have good hardware to run it on regardless, so they are off to a bad start anyway, and will diss the <operating system> for that reason alone, although, never admit it Wink Use the <operating system> and decide for yourself. It's pretty fun Smile


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Oct 2021 20:54    Post subject:
Laughing
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Oct 2021 10:12    Post subject:
Microsoft is forcibly installing the PC Health Check app on Windows 10 PCs
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-forcibly-installing-the-pc-health-check-app-on-windows-10-pcs/

Business as usual Rolling Eyes
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Przepraszam
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Oct 2021 11:22    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
Microsoft is forcibly installing the PC Health Check app on Windows 10 PCs
https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-is-forcibly-installing-the-pc-health-check-app-on-windows-10-pcs/

Business as usual Rolling Eyes



wtf, it indeed has been installed.

New version of LTSC cant' come soon enough


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2021 00:04    Post subject:
windows 10 21H2 iso got released today, the update should also be available over windows update by now if they don't roll it out in waves.

they also released windows 10 LTSC 2021 today.

just installed it, activated it with kms38 (massgravel MAS), used toggledefender to disable windows defender, installed the store and forza 5.

everything works just like it should Very Happy more tweaking and installing tomorrow.
if it wasn't for forza i wouldn't update to the newest version, since not much has changed.
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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2021 04:40    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
windows 10 21H2 iso got released today, the update should also be available over windows update by now if they don't roll it out in waves.

they also released windows 10 LTSC 2021 today.

just installed it, activated it with kms38 (massgravel MAS), used toggledefender to disable windows defender, installed the store and forza 5.

everything works just like it should Very Happy more tweaking and installing tomorrow.
if it wasn't for forza i wouldn't update to the newest version, since not much has changed.


It does seem to be in waves as it is not showing up for me yet so hopefully in a few days.
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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2021 06:41    Post subject:
I slightly panicked when I saw "Windows 11 Update is ready" in the update window several days ago Laughing

Disabled TPM in BIOS just in case, now it says my PC is unfortunately not compatible and that I should run that Health Check tool, I'm safe!
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2021 06:47    Post subject:
Yes, very lucky you were there. Smile


LTSC 2021 getting ready to go on here, at last! Very Happy Of course, I'll run it through NTLite first to get rid of other needless shit first Wink
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Nov 2021 12:58    Post subject:
Ofcourse M$ will do whatever it takes to force down ya throat W11 whenever the time comes, TPM or not related whatsoever... That, or block ya out from W10.. Or "update or ya gonna get R'd by hackers"


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2021 06:01    Post subject:
2019 LTSC hardware activated on this system, thus no problems so far with this Wink Yup, 2021 LTSC will do for me, for next 5 years, at least. Going smooth as fuck ATM. All normal, Defender removed, updates permanently disabled, no shit Store, imaged and saved, and it will stay like that till I see fit.

WinShit11 will be long dead by then Smile
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2021 08:50    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
2019 LTSC hardware activated on this system, thus no problems so far with this Wink Yup, 2021 LTSC will do for me, for next 5 years, at least. Going smooth as fuck ATM. All normal, Defender removed, updates permanently disabled, no shit Store, imaged and saved, and it will stay like that till I see fit.

WinShit11 will be long dead by then Smile


You have disabled Windows updates?


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2021 08:55    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:


You have disabled Windows updates?


Of course. Had done so on Pro beforehand. Never will I let this shit update, EVER! A Year I was on 19042.685, and not an update passed my door Wink Make the image, lock it down, install, leave it be. Anything goes wrong?, return to said image in seconds Wink Great for these bloated driver updates that are shit. Any you wish to keep?, add to image, rinse, repeat Very Happy Security updates?, lol!!, bullshit!, never needed them, and certainly not from MS.

I do my own security thanks.
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escalibur




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2021 10:22    Post subject:
Ok. Smile


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2021 18:31    Post subject:
there is some kind of bug in 21H2, it's also happening on LTSC 2021 and im kinda scared, that it won't get patched on LTSC 2021 in the future. so for me it seems like LTSC is not an option this time.

when you drag the "cpu-z" windows on the desktop around, the movement will be delayed, some kind of lag or so. i noticed the same for the nvidia control panel, but just for an hour or so, then it was gone. cpu-z on the otherhand always does it, even on my laptop with nothing installed but just a fresh windows 10 21H2 install.

other people reported this problem too on MDL. you can resolve it by lowering the mouse polling rate to 500, but this ain't a fix, just a quick workaround.

i don't give a shit about cpu z, but after seeing it also on the nvidia control panel for a short time, it probably can happen to every other program too.
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Shocktrooper




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Nov 2021 11:56    Post subject:
I can't reproduce this, just tried CPU-Z 1.95 and 1.98 and NVCP and there is no lag moving the window around on Enterprise 21H2. Polling rate is at 1000hz.
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Nov 2021 12:02    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
I can't reproduce this, just tried CPU-Z 1.95 and 1.98 and NVCP and there is no lag moving the window around on Enterprise 21H2. Polling rate is at 1000hz.

weird, i tried it on 5 machines now, either with pro, education or ltsc 2021 and all of them had the problem as soon as i plugged in a 1000 hz mouse. i will try the normal enterprise later.
i also can't reproduce it on the nvidia control panel anymore. cpu z always does it for me.

/Edit
Same Problem on the normal enterprise for me on a Intel Desktop and a AMD Laptop Sad
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2021 04:19    Post subject:
1.98, smooth as fuck here on LTSC 2021, dragging perfect.
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2021 10:44    Post subject:
what can be the reason then? it happens only on 21h2, all versions of it, on multiple pcs and laptops with different chipsets, cpus and graphic cards. fresh install, fresh install just with drivers, fresh install with drivers and shit removed and so on. all tested.

and im not the only one reporting this. apparently this was also a bug on 2004 already, which got fixed with an windows update and now seems to be back.
why am i and others getting it (like i said on multiple pc's) and others not.

don't you use a mouse with a polling rate of 1000? if i use and cheap office mouse or the build in trackpad there is no dragging at all and the dwm.exe is not using so much cpu.

also tested it with multiple gaming mice, logitech, razer, steelseries, zowie, all of them got the problem as soon as i use them with a polling rate of 1000.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2021 12:07    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
1.98, smooth as fuck here on LTSC 2021, dragging perfect.


As long as you don't play very recent games that require the latest versions of Windows 10 (1903 and forward) it's a good choice if you want stability and lack of bloat.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2021 12:08    Post subject:
freiwald wrote:
there is some kind of bug in 21H2, it's also happening on LTSC 2021 and im kinda scared, that it won't get patched on LTSC 2021 in the future. so for me it seems like LTSC is not an option this time.

when you drag the "cpu-z" windows on the desktop around, the movement will be delayed, some kind of lag or so. i noticed the same for the nvidia control panel, but just for an hour or so, then it was gone. cpu-z on the otherhand always does it, even on my laptop with nothing installed but just a fresh windows 10 21H2 install.

other people reported this problem too on MDL. you can resolve it by lowering the mouse polling rate to 500, but this ain't a fix, just a quick workaround.

i don't give a shit about cpu z, but after seeing it also on the nvidia control panel for a short time, it probably can happen to every other program too.


What GPU and driver are you using in LTSC?


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freiwald




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2021 12:43    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
freiwald wrote:
there is some kind of bug in 21H2, it's also happening on LTSC 2021 and im kinda scared, that it won't get patched on LTSC 2021 in the future. so for me it seems like LTSC is not an option this time.

when you drag the "cpu-z" windows on the desktop around, the movement will be delayed, some kind of lag or so. i noticed the same for the nvidia control panel, but just for an hour or so, then it was gone. cpu-z on the otherhand always does it, even on my laptop with nothing installed but just a fresh windows 10 21H2 install.

other people reported this problem too on MDL. you can resolve it by lowering the mouse polling rate to 500, but this ain't a fix, just a quick workaround.

i don't give a shit about cpu z, but after seeing it also on the nvidia control panel for a short time, it probably can happen to every other program too.


What GPU and driver are you using in LTSC?

gtx 970, latest drivers, also tested older 47x.xx drivers i had installed before on ltsc 2019. windows had this bug before on version 2004 and it's happening on all my systems. why isn't it happening for you guys? have you done a clean install like i did?

like i said i can't reproduce it anymore with the nvidia control panel, don't know why it was happening, but the dwm.exe was using more and more cpu while dragging the window around, just like it is with cpu-z all the time.

happening on 21h2, home, pro, education, enterprise, ltsc. amd and nvidia systems, laptop or desktop no difference. as soon as i use a trackpad, an normal office mouse or go back to ltsc 2019 the problem is gone.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Nov 2021 20:53    Post subject:
Only thing I can think of, is you have things running in background that we don't?, and something is interfering with the polling of the mice? I have my Win10 pretty much stripped of all nonsense, telemetry etc, Defender removed, Indexing off, yada yada.

CPUz is doing its own polling when running, to keep readings updated etc, and this may be conflicting with something that is running in the background? It's possibly the only logical explanation? Only one I can think of anyway Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2021 00:13    Post subject:
hey there...
i see the new LTSC is released...

anyone can tell me if its the same as good old 1809 LTSC?
is there more bloat? what about Edge, can i remove it on ISO level without having problems in Windows? why i ask, usually MS has depentencies with it like it did with IE.

anyone also tried LTSC IoT? from what i read they should be the same but IoT gets 10 year support..

what about support for older hardware? i know its not win11, but did they change any min. requirements?

aaaand final question Laughing can i just upgrade? i know, i know, a clean install is allways best and recommended but oh dear am i lazy AF at the moment. Also, im not sure how to backup all my tweaks i did.. seems a lot of work, haha..

backing up Registry changes
services
startup
GPEdit settings
sheduled tasks

all the Fun stuff Crying or Very sad

so, is it a option to Upgrade? or do i have to do a clean install?


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Nov 2021 00:46    Post subject:
Running LTSC IoT ATM, it HWID activates with correct tool Wink Doesn't come with ShitStore, and is basically Win10 H2 with a 10 year guarantee, so this is good if you have no intention of using that turd called 11?, which I certainly do not. It's more bloated than 1809, but hey, what isn't from MS these days?

Edge you can just disable permanently, although I wouldn't recommend removing it, as these fuckwits tie certain things to it in system, so its guaranteed to break something down the line if you do.

Services, GPEdit, and Tasks can all be backed up, but again, not recommended, as they are very different from previous version.

I still ran it through NTLite to remove most of the shit, Defender etc, and you can find my thread on said forums, with tweaks/discussions, and what not to remove/disable Wink

As for upgrading?, dunno?, but I wouldn't go there, as its just asking for more trouble.
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skx7




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PostPosted: Tue, 23rd Nov 2021 01:01    Post subject:
honestly, this pushing of none requested feature updates through our throats, it is pushing my buttons at work. this new office 365 found it necessary to change basic features from left to right on the ribbons. why microshit? why? for fuck's sake, make the ribbon layout at least customizable if you will re-order it every 2 fuckin' years

last week, working in full rush mode, go out smoking cigarettes, the whole excel was changed! how the fuck is this possible in enterprise environments!
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zTurbo




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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Jan 2022 18:05    Post subject:
so i found out that sysmain is not important and it was causing high disk usage 100% wtf so i finally disabled it.

"SysMain, is not required by your system it is an old technology supposed to make applications start faster, it is not required on newer systems and as you have seen, it causes serious lagging when it goes wrong "

fix

1. Open administrative Command Prompt.

2. Type following command and press Enter key:

sc stop "SysMain" & sc config "SysMain" start=disabled




https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/service-host-sysmain-freezing-up-my-computer/d6de4ac8-c3ce-4778-96da-bc78a99ab0b3

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/100-high-disk-usage-due-to-sysmain-service-running/8d430ea3-6e91-4b96-9fe4-d2f1ef97c7ab
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skx7




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Mar 2022 19:48    Post subject:
I hate w10 store, especially that it keeps showing all shitware which i removed long time ago. So my question, if I disable the w10 store, will the already installed apps keep being updated? Only app I am interested is Debian which I installed through the w10 store. All the rest I do not care about. Anyone able to confirm? It s for my laptop from my work...
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