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| vurt wrote: | | VonMisk wrote: | | I'm baffled that you have to pay for common european breed. In Poland you pretty much can't sell non-pedigree animals. |
Yeah, Sweden is a very different country, and in so many ways, than other countries. You don't have any stray dogs or cats here, from what i've seen during travelling many countries have tons of that, and i hate seeing it.
When i released my cat to be outside the first thing i see on facebook for my city is "does someone knows this cat? is it a stray?!" and then a photo of my cat sitting on a rock.. People were directly worried and i had to reply that its my cat and its new to the community 
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There are thousands and thousands of stray cats in Sweden. We just tend to not see them since they keep away from humans. Many of them (or their ancestors) were thrown out by idiots who thought getting a pet for their kids during vacation to the summer house was a good idea only to throw the cat out and leave it to fend for itself.
Until now cats haven't been treated in a similar manner as dogs when it comes to owner responsibility etc. but they recently introduced laws/regulations to fix some of those issues.
| Quote: | Den 15 juni 2020 börjar de nya djurskyddsreglerna för hundar och katter att gälla. Drygt 2 miljoner hundar och katter lever i Sverige. En femtedel av de svenska hushållen har minst en katt och ungefär 15 procent av hushållen har en hund. De nya djurskyddsreglerna ska underlätta för djurägarna att göra rätt.
En viktig ambition med de nya reglerna har varit att höja kattens status. Djurägarens ansvar för att tillgodose kattens behov blir tydligare och kravet på att katterna inte förökar sig oplanerat blir tuffare. Att förhindra att katten förökar sig oplanerat kan ske på olika sätt, exempelvis genom kastrering. Allt för många katter är idag hemlösa i Sverige. |
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| Quote: | On June 15, 2020, the new animal welfare rules for dogs and cats will come into force. A little over 2 million dogs and cats live in Sweden. One fifth of Swedish households have at least one cat and about 15 percent of households have a dog. The new animal welfare rules will make it easier for animal owners to do the right thing.
An important ambition with the new rules has been to raise the cat's status. The pet owner's responsibility for meeting the cat's needs becomes clearer and the requirement that the cats do not reproduce unplanned becomes tougher. Preventing the cat from reproducing unplanned can be done in various ways, for example by neutering. Too many cats today are homeless in Sweden. |
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Warning; this is a TL;DR post...
So it's been ~1 year since I lost both my cats which truly broke my heart. They both died from age-related illnesses. Pluttis was 17 yo. when he suddenly got ill in late February 2020. A week later the vet said that it was "time" and there was nothing else I or they could do but to end the suffering that would follow. It was so horrible to be there in the room when it happened.
Less than 3 months later Sissi, 20 years old, suddenly got ill as well. She had hyperthyroidism since a couple of years but was medicated for that. Her kidneys failed and according to the vet that means that her body can no longer produce oxygen and she was slowly suffocating. I had to book an acute appointment to go to a vet hospital since local vets weren't open. It cost an arm and a leg (2-3x the normal) but that didn't matter. She was so weak that she couldn't stand or barely move and I had to hold her upright in my hands so she could drink water etc. until the taxi arrived to take us to the vet hospital. I was a little more prepared for what was about to happen and knew that she suffered.. but it hit me so hard that I went into a deep depression.
I had picked her up after a friend's cat had kittens. I used to visit him and his partner quite often (we played in the same band and his girlfriend/partner hung out with us) and one time I was sitting in an armchair and this 9 week old ultra cute kitten just climbed the chair and sat on it behind my head and on the armrest. I visited them the next week and this charming kitten, 10 weeks old at this point, came out of nowhere and jumped into the same armchair where I was sitting. Her four siblings couldn't care less, being busy fighting and climbing things.
Up until that point I had felt that taking care of a cat was too big of a responsibility (I love animals and most of all cats) so I had never adopted one. This was different. She sort of adopted me. She was promised to someone else but both my friend and his girlfriend said they had never seen Sissi do that with anyone, not even themselves. She had attached herself to me. The next week I had gotten a litter box, some toys, various cat food for kittens, bowls etc. and drove to the next town where they lived to pick her up.
I didn't have a carrier but figured that since she was so calm and relaxed in my presence she wouldn't make a fuss. I put her on the passenger seat and started the drive home. She did not like being sat on the passenger seat. 5 minutes later she was sprawled out on my chest (this was during summer, she was born late may/early june 2000) without a care in the world. 10 minutes later she was sitting on my left shoulder perfectly still and watched out the front and drivers window. Cars that passed me or came from the opposite direction presented big eyes, amazed children etc. when they saw her on my shoulder.
For quite a while I took walks outside my apartment building with her sitting on my shoulder as if it was the most normal thing in the world.
So yeah, we had a very special relationship and I still miss both of them dearly, I sometimes dream about them, some dreams so vivid that I could physically feel them.. and waking up realising the sad reality. I still have some of the reflexes left: I hear something in the apartment and instinctively think it's one of the cats only to get a pang of sadness a second later. These days I mostly remember all the good stuff, their lives (and mine) over the years....
Aaaanyway... My grieving period has lasted for a year and I'll never forget them. I was lucky; neither of them were problematic in any way or form, none of them were aggressive or had some weird habits, they were never sick. Last couple of months I've been watching plenty of rescue pet videos on youtube and I've been thinking about perhaps adopting a new family member in the future. I miss the company and I know there are so many unwanted cats...
There's a local cat rescue center that is always looking for adopters and temporary food hosts etc. so that's where I'll go first to look for a possible live-in furry friend. I've always had a special love for and a connection with animals in general and cats in particular.
Pluttis was 3 months old when he was caught in a cat trap by my mum and a neighbor of hers (they both shared the love of cats and animals and they fed the regulars that lived across the street) so he had no experience of humans whatsoever and was extremely scared. Since I already had Sissi he was first placed with my aunt. That wasn't a good idea. She's not a cat person (she's a little weird overall) and Pluttis lived in the hollow backrest of an armchair. After my mother nagged me, asking if I would agree to take him for a while until they found a new owner I said yes. I was hesitant since I already had Sissi (3 years old at that time) and I figured it would be a bit difficult. After basically pulling him out from that armchair backrest and putting him in the cat carrier where he mooed like a hoarse cow all the way home, twisting and turning in that carry. Remember, he had been raised only by his cat mom who was a stray so he had no human imprint whatsoever.
I decided to put him in the kitchen and keep the kitchen door closed to separate him and Sissi for a while. He was so scared, trying to find a hiding place in my kitchen. I opened a floor cupboard that had a single shelf and he zipped as far back in that space as he could. I sorted out food and water for both cats, putting Sissi's stuff on a table mat in the living room, I put a borrowed litter box in the kitchen as well. To make it more comfy I put towels and a cover and made it into a cat "bed" inside that cupboard. For the next two weeks I made daily visits to the kitchen where I sat next to the cupboard, sometimes for hours, slowly moving my hand closer to him, letting him smell me and get used to my presence. I whispered to him and gave him treats. As the days passed he got calmer in my presence and soon he dared to leave the cupboard to eat while I was in the kitchen (he was still a bit skittish so I held my distance and just observed and talked to him.
A week later when I felt that he had begun trusting me I thought that it was time for Sissi (who had been more than ridiculously curious about who and what was in the kitchen that she could smell on my hands and hear when she was outside the closed kitchen door) and Pluttis to meet albeit only very briefly with the kitchen door slightly ajar. During the first meeting Sissi hissed at Pluttis (I had named him by then and subconsciously decided that he now lived there) who put his tail behind his legs and jumped back into his little nest. Day by day, step by step, they got used to each other and it didn't take long before he became the third family member in the apartment.
So... as I wrote before, I'm thinking about adopting a young female cat from the local shelter, perhaps towards the fall. I am scared of going through the tragedy of life (that it must end) with a new cat... but I can't think like that. I have the ability to give a cat a good life with lots of love. Besides, if I get a cat that gets to be as old as Sissi (20), that cat may even outlive me.
Thanks for reading (if anyone managed to trawl through this enormous wall of text).
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| Frant wrote: | Warning; this is a TL;DR post...
So it's been ~1 year since I lost both my cats which truly broke my heart. They both died from age-related illnesses. Pluttis was 17 yo. when he suddenly got ill in late February 2020. A week later the vet said that it was "time" and there was nothing else I or they could do but to end the suffering that would follow. It was so horrible to be there in the room when it happened.
Less than 3 months later Sissi, 20 years old, suddenly got ill as well. She had hyperthyroidism since a couple of years but was medicated for that. Her kidneys failed and according to the vet that means that her body can no longer produce oxygen and she was slowly suffocating. I had to book an acute appointment to go to a vet hospital since local vets weren't open. It cost an arm and a leg (2-3x the normal) but that didn't matter. She was so weak that she couldn't stand or barely move and I had to hold her upright in my hands so she could drink water etc. until the taxi arrived to take us to the vet hospital. I was a little more prepared for what was about to happen and knew that she suffered.. but it hit me so hard that I went into a deep depression.
I had picked her up after a friend's cat had kittens. I used to visit him and his partner quite often (we played in the same band and his girlfriend/partner hung out with us) and one time I was sitting in an armchair and this 9 week old ultra cute kitten just climbed the chair and sat on it behind my head and on the armrest. I visited them the next week and this charming kitten, 10 weeks old at this point, came out of nowhere and jumped into the same armchair where I was sitting. Her four siblings couldn't care less, being busy fighting and climbing things.
Up until that point I had felt that taking care of a cat was too big of a responsibility (I love animals and most of all cats) so I had never adopted one. This was different. She sort of adopted me. She was promised to someone else but both my friend and his girlfriend said they had never seen Sissi do that with anyone, not even themselves. She had attached herself to me. The next week I had gotten a litter box, some toys, various cat food for kittens, bowls etc. and drove to the next town where they lived to pick her up.
I didn't have a carrier but figured that since she was so calm and relaxed in my presence she wouldn't make a fuss. I put her on the passenger seat and started the drive home. She did not like being sat on the passenger seat. 5 minutes later she was sprawled out on my chest (this was during summer, she was born late may/early june 2000) without a care in the world. 10 minutes later she was sitting on my left shoulder perfectly still and watched out the front and drivers window. Cars that passed me or came from the opposite direction presented big eyes, amazed children etc. when they saw her on my shoulder.
For quite a while I took walks outside my apartment building with her sitting on my shoulder as if it was the most normal thing in the world.
So yeah, we had a very special relationship and I still miss both of them dearly, I sometimes dream about them, some dreams so vivid that I could physically feel them.. and waking up realising the sad reality. I still have some of the reflexes left: I hear something in the apartment and instinctively think it's one of the cats only to get a pang of sadness a second later. These days I mostly remember all the good stuff, their lives (and mine) over the years....
Aaaanyway... My grieving period has lasted for a year and I'll never forget them. I was lucky; neither of them were problematic in any way or form, none of them were aggressive or had some weird habits, they were never sick. Last couple of months I've been watching plenty of rescue pet videos on youtube and I've been thinking about perhaps adopting a new family member in the future. I miss the company and I know there are so many unwanted cats...
There's a local cat rescue center that is always looking for adopters and temporary food hosts etc. so that's where I'll go first to look for a possible live-in furry friend. I've always had a special love for and a connection with animals in general and cats in particular.
Pluttis was 3 months old when he was caught in a cat trap by my mum and a neighbor of hers (they both shared the love of cats and animals and they fed the regulars that lived across the street) so he had no experience of humans whatsoever and was extremely scared. Since I already had Sissi he was first placed with my aunt. That wasn't a good idea. She's not a cat person (she's a little weird overall) and Pluttis lived in the hollow backrest of an armchair. After my mother nagged me, asking if I would agree to take him for a while until they found a new owner I said yes. I was hesitant since I already had Sissi (3 years old at that time) and I figured it would be a bit difficult. After basically pulling him out from that armchair backrest and putting him in the cat carrier where he mooed like a hoarse cow all the way home, twisting and turning in that carry. Remember, he had been raised only by his cat mom who was a stray so he had no human imprint whatsoever.
I decided to put him in the kitchen and keep the kitchen door closed to separate him and Sissi for a while. He was so scared, trying to find a hiding place in my kitchen. I opened a floor cupboard that had a single shelf and he zipped as far back in that space as he could. I sorted out food and water for both cats, putting Sissi's stuff on a table mat in the living room, I put a borrowed litter box in the kitchen as well. To make it more comfy I put towels and a cover and made it into a cat "bed" inside that cupboard. For the next two weeks I made daily visits to the kitchen where I sat next to the cupboard, sometimes for hours, slowly moving my hand closer to him, letting him smell me and get used to my presence. I whispered to him and gave him treats. As the days passed he got calmer in my presence and soon he dared to leave the cupboard to eat while I was in the kitchen (he was still a bit skittish so I held my distance and just observed and talked to him.
A week later when I felt that he had begun trusting me I thought that it was time for Sissi (who had been more than ridiculously curious about who and what was in the kitchen that she could smell on my hands and hear when she was outside the closed kitchen door) and Pluttis to meet albeit only very briefly with the kitchen door slightly ajar. During the first meeting Sissi hissed at Pluttis (I had named him by then and subconsciously decided that he now lived there) who put his tail behind his legs and jumped back into his little nest. Day by day, step by step, they got used to each other and it didn't take long before he became the third family member in the apartment.
So... as I wrote before, I'm thinking about adopting a young female cat from the local shelter, perhaps towards the fall. I am scared of going through the tragedy of life (that it must end) with a new cat... but I can't think like that. I have the ability to give a cat a good life with lots of love. Besides, if I get a cat that gets to be as old as Sissi (20), that cat may even outlive me.
Thanks for reading (if anyone managed to trawl through this enormous wall of text). |
It was a beautiful read Pluttis and Sissi sound like they were treats ! 
I truly dread the day we'll lose our cat and I find myself thinking of it more and more often the older she grows, and there are pet deaths posts and threads all over the net to remind oneself of the inevitable.
We have to be strong with it, giving them a life full of love is worth more than anything else or whatever heartbreak we can get down the road. I'm pretty sure we'll keep on adopting rescue cats afterwards.
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Been a while so... (parents) cat update time!
Humpcat: this guy has lost his balls, but the alternative was certain death being the runt of the litter and with a few problems right at birth (hump and, uh, eye-paw and overall coordination is pretty low  )
Shy, turned out huge, beautiful expressive eyes with expressions that crack me up, especially when he's confused/surprised with something.
The early years
Turned out massive
Here with
Sister cat: batshit insane (right), doesn't afraid of anything/anyone. Actually got a small burn on her back after rubbing herself on the drill my dad was using on some home improvement 
Here along with
Trans cat: ~2yo, still with all his pipes and gear but... doesn't mark territory, still hasn't developed any "normal" uncut cat behavior so far.
""What are you looking at, peasant?!""
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You guys are way too pussy whipped. Need to stop putting pussy on pedestal 
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| tonizito wrote: | Been a while so... (parents) cat update time!
Humpcat: this guy has lost his balls, but the alternative was certain death being the runt of the litter and with a few problems right at birth (hump and, uh, eye-paw and overall coordination is pretty low )
Shy, turned out huge, beautiful expressive eyes with expressions that crack me up, especially when he's confused/surprised with something.
The early years
Turned out massive
Here with
Sister cat: batshit insane (right), doesn't afraid of anything/anyone. Actually got a small burn on her back after rubbing herself on the drill my dad was using on some home improvement
Here along with
Trans cat: ~2yo, still with all his pipes and gear but... doesn't mark territory, still hasn't developed any "normal" uncut cat behavior so far.
""What are you looking at, peasant?!""
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Love it! Gonna see if I can find a couple of nice pictures of my 5 cats soon
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Ugh, when I see these awesome pictures I feel a stab in my chest. Lost both my cats early 2020 from natural causes. Been thinking about getting a kitten for a while now; it's just that I'm scarred by the experiences I had both times I took them to the vet. It sure is empty and boring now though... :/
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I lost one of my pets in 2021, almost a year ago now:
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This is from the credits of my game which is why it's stylized like that. She's in it too, I recorded her barking sounds for one section. She was a very good dog, she broke her back and that was that.
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| Interinactive wrote: | I lost one of my pets in 2021, almost a year ago now:
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This is from the credits of my game which is why it's stylized like that. She's in it too, I recorded her barking sounds for one section. She was a very good dog, she broke her back and that was that. |
I went to the vet today with my oldest cat, she is in good health apart from her teeth. Our vet told us that we need set up a date to sedate her and make a proper check of them. The problem is that she is old and he told us that even though you ofc cant put a price on a life, we had to think through how much we are willing to spend on her, especially since our other cats are getting old too.
There is a chance that the price can get as high as €3000 (or more)..
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| Frant wrote: | | Ugh, when I see these awesome pictures I feel a stab in my chest. Lost both my cats early 2020 from natural causes. Been thinking about getting a kitten for a while now; it's just that I'm scarred by the experiences I had both times I took them to the vet. It sure is empty and boring now though... :/ |
Lost both my cats too. First in 2019 from heart defect and second in February this year due to pneumonia, probably covid related. I can relate with your pain.
I would take two cats but my wife is scarred by how the last one died and don't want any at the moment. So we try to lure some strays at ours recreational plot with food and water left for them.
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| Ankh wrote: | | Interinactive wrote: | I lost one of my pets in 2021, almost a year ago now:
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This is from the credits of my game which is why it's stylized like that. She's in it too, I recorded her barking sounds for one section. She was a very good dog, she broke her back and that was that. |
I went to the vet today with my oldest cat, she is in good health apart from her teeth. Our vet told us that we need set up a date to sedate her and make a proper check of them. The problem is that she is old and he told us that even though you ofc cant put a price on a life, we had to think through how much we are willing to spend on her, especially since our other cats are getting old too.
There is a chance that the price can get as high as €3000 (or more).. |
In ~2006 we had another Dachshund who was bitten by a snake. In the struggle afterwards she also damaged her back. After a vet visit, antivenom and surgery, the cost came to more than $5K (I can't recall how much exactly, but it was mental). But the dog lived.
However... there was a downside to that. Her rear legs never worked again and she'd drag them around. She couldn't control when to go to the toilet at times and she'd continue to damage her spine by going down stairs and that sort of thing. This went on for years before she died of old age.
There's definitely a downside to prolonging an injured or old animals life, even if it seems like the right thing to do
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I'm sure the little fella will just pop right back up like nothing happened, though 
