fucking Youtube again...
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madness




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2023 17:56    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
freiwald wrote:
anyone else getting recommendations for very small channels on the start page now?
this goes on for weeks for me already and i thought it's some kind of weird test but it doesn't stop.
i must have blocked like 1000 small channels by now Laughing

Same I get random channels that have nothing to do with the content I watch, or recommended 10-30 second long meme videos. I never watch much less would sub to those.
I spent a good time over the last week of right clicking and do not recommend channel for it trying to clean up my home page.


Same. Thought maybe it's because I watched 1 or 2 of these by "accident", I think even just hovering the mouse over a video so it starts playing in the small windows counts as a view?
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2023 18:03    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2023 18:03    Post subject:
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madness




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2023 19:24    Post subject:
Some of them appear in history, yes. I'm using plain old Chrome..
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pho08




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2023 19:31    Post subject:
they did some new sinister voodoo today... had to clear cookies

Quote:

YouTube is sabotaging their own website now even when users don't use any extensions. They are making fake requests that violate their own CORS policy and the browsers throw errors because of that, making the whole website breaks now, unless users clear cookies manually.

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/17j6ygs/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_29_2023_mega/
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Nov 2023 19:45    Post subject:
Start page no, but the sidebar has those 7 views 7 hour stream losers 90% of the time Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Nov 2023 00:22    Post subject:


LOL
Still no issues here, using adblock latitude, ublock origin and some youtube polymer engine fixes script. No idea which one is working but so far so good.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Nov 2023 01:27    Post subject:
in the end youtube will win, just like with twitch. it's only a matter of time until we all will get ads, adblocker or not doesn't matter.
for now it's still working for me, but yesterday for example every 3-4 videos the next video wouldn't load, i would have to press f5 to make it play like it should. today this problem is gone so i guess ublock got updated.
it will be a cat and mouse game, until youtube has found a way to close it down for good. this will happen 100%, its too much money for them.

with twitch im fine, i just don't watch it anymore since a few months, but youtube is another thing. i don't have netflix, no spotify premium, nothing. so i guess if there is no other way i will get premium lite. if i watch youtube on the TV i only watch demonetized videos so i don't see any ads there, but thats no option for the pc.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Nov 2023 19:58    Post subject:
Fadblock is nagging about a one time payment now. This translates to me as "Youtube is soon gonna win and we'll try to rake in some cash before it's game over"
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Nov 2023 20:32    Post subject:
adblock sold out a long time ago, years. Ublock origin is where it's at.
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Nov 2023 22:14    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
adblock sold out a long time ago, years. Ublock origin is where it's at.


Been using it for years, never had any issue with YT Razz
It only ever breaks with some "grey" (aka used for piracy) streaming websites but it's usually fixed within a couple days.

You can't even donate to them - they're making sure they're legally unassailable for getting profit or anything. Bless em !


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Dec 2023 21:58    Post subject:
It finally happened (uBlock):



and eventually:



How does one get around this?
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pho08




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Dec 2023 22:49    Post subject:
go into ublock settings

click the clock symbol next to quick fixes and apply

close and restart chromium


works for me
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Dec 2023 23:01    Post subject:
I usually do, but it wouldn't work today until I updated to the dev build

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Dec 2023 23:19    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
go into ublock settings

click the clock symbol next to quick fixes and apply

close and restart chromium


works for me


you mean settings - purge cache - and update ? Scratch Head this is what i do anyway

...but also disable any extension related to youtube , like enhancer for youtube and alike .. didnt have any issues anymore since last month Cool
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 06:36    Post subject:
for me its still working with ublock, still i will get premium lite this week.
its just a matter of time (a few months max) until it will not work anymore for good, especially with chrome, im not gonna switch to firefox and im done only watching arte and stoner content on my tv, since those are pretty much the only channels without ads.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 10:27    Post subject:
@freiwald
Same on both. Still works here, but dont know for how long. But barely watch anything on TV anymore as only 3 shows I want to anymore despite having 4000 channels.

So far roku TV seems my cord cutter. It has dedicated channels to the shit I watch that just reruns everything ever made for it: Cartoons, Stand up comedy, science shit, How Its Made, Modern Marvels, etc. The three 'new' shows I watch I can live without.

I'm also the hypocrite that argues with people "Shits not free. You cant want both your creators to get fair pay AND block all ads..whos paying them? The Money Fairy?"
But also use adblock on youtube. But then again I dont care if the ones I watch get paid 1/2 suggest using adblock themselves. They do it for the content and enjoyment of it.

But I stand by if I have to watch commercials, I will. for youtube to exist for people to binge watch for 6 hours.It needs to make money, they people you watch need to make money (99% of them do it as jobs).
To me demanding it free, and to have to watch ads is outrageous is like demanding movies and tv shows are free, at expense of someone else for your entertainment. And you have to do nothing to help even if its free to do, to help them recoup the expense they paid for you to sit on the toilet enjoying them.


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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 11:25    Post subject:
I agree they need to make money. I used to be all about watching the adds on yt and all that. But then you know, more and more adds were put in, longer as well. And then you know other sites killed it for me with all the pop-up and all the other intrusive bs. Ever since using a form of adblock I haven't had any sort of malware either so that is a big plus. I did pay for yt for a while, but these days I don't watch it enough to be worth it. If I follow someone I just donate to them.

As for ublock. Haven't had any issues so far, didn't have to change anything. Then again I've always been using firefox, so maybe that is part of it, but not like I'll ever touch chrome.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 11:54    Post subject:
Well to be fair, the issue of those trying to 'do right' having SO many ads, is in a good part because of the masses that blocked ads Razz
WE created the scenario where we need to use adblock to stop ads, by others of us blocking ads.
Granted it's not ALL that, it's also profit/revue driven. But id argue it would be nowhere near as bad if we didn't force the 1/2 of us not using adblock to 'make up' for the 1/2 of us that do.

It feels like a conversation of:
-Youtube is showing more ads to those that dont use ad blockers
-Those BASTARDS
-.You mean, us bastards too?
- No just THOSE youtube bastards for doing that.

The internet is 'free and open' but SOMEONE has to pay for your usage of others services you dont want to pay for (if you dont buy a product, you are the product). You just shifted who is paying to be your product.


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Kezmark




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 12:15    Post subject:
Nah, more/worse adds started way before most people used addblock, I'm talking 10+years ago. I didn't, and if I didn't, I'd argue the majority didn't, since even a few years ago most people I knew didn't bother, but the service got worse and worse, so more people started using it.

I hate this whole add and data driven economy. Just set a price and gtfo. But they don't want that, they want adds. Streaming services are starting to push that as well these days. So I just don't care anymore about them. If YT dies then so be it, they added a pricing model way too late.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 12:23    Post subject:
Maybe it's the techie in me and those I know. We've used some from of adblock ever since they was a thing you could get.
I honestly can't think of anyone I know that hasn't used adblock of some sort since 10+ year ago.

And 10+ years ago I didn't think it was all that bad to start with. WAY less ads than a TV had. So it was still better than cable or over air broadcasts back then.
I guess way I see it: We was fine watching 10 minutes of ads, in a 30 minute thing over a cable [coax] so they could pay for the shows. But now find it outrageous to watch 5 minutes of ads on a 30 minute thing over a cable [ethernet]?

And maybe it's the channels I watch, when I do see them with ads (chrome portable I use for tabletop, or on my phone) Its usually an ad at the start, and maybe one in the middle. A lot of it I Think are some channels owners cram as many as they can in themselves, on top of what youtube adds. And people aren't sure which is which and blame youtube for them all.


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 12:33    Post subject:
It is a problem they made themselves. Cause they offered a service with few/short adds, so it is hard now to make people accept the old system.

Just like esports, giving it away for free so many years just cause you want to "grow". It is going to be hard to ask for payment now, especially if you aren't offering something better.

So many people now grew on yt on netflix, so they don't have the same tolerance for adds that the older generations do.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 14:05    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 14:39    Post subject:
No I do get it. I just think people expect to much. Just because you had it better than you should, doesn't mean you should rebel when its changed to how it should be (so they can make money to continue to exist).

Same as TV to me but 1000x more desirable: Virtually unlimited content of exactly what you want to see, when you feel like seeing it. OR virtually unlimited ability to film whatever the fuck you want, hand the mp4 to someone and they host, store, propagate and distribute it to the literal entire world for you and costs you literally nothing.

And to make it not cost you anything to do both those, they have you sit thru 5 minutes of ads on a 30 minute video when you watch it.

I feel it's a mix of:
- Youtube ramped up once they got to a point they needed to: They didn't pay content creators to start with either, so didn't need ads to pay the creators..why it had less to start with.
- People being a BIT entitled: What you mean you need to pay for the services and content I get for free. So instead of a pay only option I can STILL do it free, but just watch some ads? The internet is suppose to satiate me on demand for free, with no inconvenience on my part to get it all for free. Someone else needs to pay the bills, that doesn't involve me knowing they are being paid, or paying it myself.

It's STILL better than any alternative, like cable for example: I pay $250 for cable, and get commercials on each of the 400 channel.
I can pay $20 a month and get youtube premium with unlimited channels (millions of them) with anything I want to see on demand the instant I want to with a powerful search option, and not see one commercial.

id pay 1/10th what I did, for a 1,000,000 more channels and zero commercials ever.

People expect too much for free, that isnt free to do.
Does it really seem outrageous to say: You want to see literally billions of hours of content totally ad free, on any subject you can think of no matter how obscure, the instant you think of it, with around 250,000 hours of new content made a day. For about $20 a month total for every device everyone in your family owns?


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 19:49    Post subject:
I used to follow many people on YT (gamers, wood or metal workers), and allowed YT ads/commercials.
For lengthy ads/commercials, like 10+ minutes, there is always the skip button.
But in your Google settings allowing Personalized Ads, makes the ads/commercials a lot more bearable:
https://myaccount.google.com/data-and-privacy
Edit: I mean no lengthy ads/commercials any more, or tampon, menstrual pad or lipstick commercials. Very Happy

On my smartphone (Android) I noticed that YT vids play with commercials and an ads/commercials skip button on a lengthy timer.

A side note: Instead of playing games, I watch videos of other people playing games.
Instead of having sex (lack of GF), I watch porn.
Instead of fun cooking, I buy TV dinners.

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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 22:53    Post subject:
How do we live in a world where 1000000000 people produce bedroom TV shows. Every moron now has a TV show utub Rolling Eyes

Is this solely the power of money / ad revenue, or some strange vanity thing?
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 23:08    Post subject:
My guess, it's vanity. Hey I can produce some (shitty) vids of myself, and perhaps in a while I can make some money out of it
Living the dream! Let's buy a decent camera and microphone, and the 1st couple of vids I upload to YT, I disable comments.
What can possibly go wrong?
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 23:37    Post subject:
@AmpegV4
I mean we have twitter, a place that people can text the whole world thoughts they have like they think their thoughts will consume as much space in our heads, as it does in thiers. So no surprise youtube has the same 'look at me' thing

At least youtube is (usually) videos about a thing OTHER than them. Twitter is just "Let me say what I was thinking to the world, I'm sure they are dying to know"

I mean thank fucking god people can't monetized tweets...it would be 10x more shit, somehow, than it is.


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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Dec 2023 23:48    Post subject:
I find personality channels insufferable and none of that is in my feed. I don't get and never will get channels about some dyed hair twink or an e-girl saying random words only 8 year olds find captivating.
Usually it's just information, how to's, reviews/news & talk, etc. Youtube when used appropriately can be a goldmine of problem solving information of all kinds.

DXWarlock wrote:

I mean thank fucking god people can't monetized tweets...


I think they can now
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/content-monetization-standards
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PostPosted: Fri, 8th Dec 2023 23:39    Post subject:
Welp
had a good run men




Edit, removed Youtube enhancer and it worked. Apparently it wasn't ublock doing it.
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