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whoKnows
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005 21:01    Post subject:
ok, i dont want to troll in the thread any further, but gbit internet is nothing special, 10gbit is but not 1gbit. You can rent a 1 gbit flatrate at german providers for 8000 euro a month, not 80 grand... e.g. every german uni has between 1gbit up to 10gbit uplink
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kachain




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005 21:15    Post subject:
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And for your information I definatly can notice a difference from a 25ms ping to a 70ms ping. Its like saying I can't notice the difference between my montier going at 60hz and 75hz.

You completely miss my post.
I said that it has no influence on the game and you started talking about eyes (dunno why). Eyes is a completely different ogran and evidently you can notice the difference between 60Hz and 75Hz because:

1. You are talking about eyes as a standalone organ.
It is hell faster than your psyhical reaction where your eyes first have to see something, then report to the brain, then brain has to analyze the picture by activating another appropiate part of brain and then take a logic decision, next activate physical muscles, etc. Don't compare it to "dead seeing" the monitor. It's like comparing walking grandmother to a Ferrari.

2. Hertz is a frequency unit and I didn't talk in any moment about frequency.
60/75Hz you said stands for vertical frequency of monitor. You're able to notice the difference (it's called rather: eye tiredness) because you see 60 or 75 pictures per second. Please don't compare it to a human reaction between 0.025 and 0.07second.

I repeat: you won't notice the difference in the game with 25ms and 70ms ping. Also it will have no practical influence on the game.

Greetings
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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005 21:32    Post subject:
That is true...the normal physical human reaction is about 1 sec...


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005 21:45    Post subject:
Dude, I dont care what you say, I notice a difference, and thats that.
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Tue, 5th Apr 2005 23:24    Post subject:
Kachain: I bet you are IT engineer and a maniac hobbyst (how can you play Rainbow Six, know IT technical details and human anatomy at the same time? Shocked)
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kachain




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 00:06    Post subject:
That's nothing special. I just like to know how things works, including my eye, monitor and speaker. But I'm not expert in any topic.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 00:57    Post subject:
MartinW wrote:
Kachain: I bet you are IT engineer and a maniac hobbyst (how can you play Rainbow Six, know IT technical details and human anatomy at the same time? Shocked)


LOL.

Guessing you're about 12 or something.


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 06:09    Post subject:
You cant get 1gbit for 85€ in Sweden
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 06:25    Post subject:
No home or small office user can get 1gbit INTERNET anyways. It would be way out of their price range, and I doubt the local carrier would even bother installing it, because they most likely would'nt have that speed themselves. The max most DSL redbacks have is OC768.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 07:47    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:


LOL


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 08:12    Post subject:
Yes you can get 1 gbit to your apartment.

http://www.labs2.se/pr/press2004113001.html and if you can't read swedish, too bad.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 08:59    Post subject:
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Guessing you're about 12 or something.

Lol. How did you guess? You are a real genious but seems still 4 years younger than me.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 13:54    Post subject:
Accelleron wrote:

LOL


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 20:26    Post subject:
kachain wrote:
Why flame? Just an explaination. I know the pain of various Internet connection types thus shared knowledge, experience and personal feelings. No offence. I am not "leet".

Did you notice any problem or flame in my post?


I did not mean you i meant SycoShaman.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 22:34    Post subject:
MartinW wrote:
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Guessing you're about 12 or something.

Lol. How did you guess? You are a real genious but seems still 4 years younger than me.


I guessed because you think that when someone has a very basic understanding of the nervous system and also knows what frequency means in the context of monitor refresh rate that they must be some sort of genius.

When in actual fact this is information you learn before you finish secondary school. So if you were much older you would know this. Either that or you're stupid.


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:20    Post subject:
EDIT:

1. Quote of my sentence: "I bet you are IT engineer and a maniac hobbyst". Where do you see "sort of genius" hint? I am 12 years old, please explain me, Grandpa.

2. "you think that when someone has a very basic understanding of the nervous system and also knows what frequency means in the context of monitor refresh rate".
I am very firghtened of you knowing what I think. You "forgot" to say that this guy (Kachain) also mentioned the speed of bullet which I did not know (of course Old Man, like you, knew that in the age of 5? Or maybe 7?) and explained rather complex topic (ping impact on game status) in a very easy to understand way (for a noob like me, not you, Master).

3. "this is information you learn before you finish secondary school". Grandpa, I know you are old but I hope with clever brain. In the time you attended (?) the secondary school they were learning definitions like: 'vertical synchronization', 'speed of bullet', brain study? Come on, you did learn with Einstein, right?


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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:26    Post subject:
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MartinW




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PostPosted: Wed, 6th Apr 2005 23:34    Post subject:
Sorry, that is because I am 12 years old (but NFOrce allows kids like me posting, right?). Of course I should write "member" (luckily).

(from the beginning I supposed someting wrong in him being a moderator, huh)
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 00:04    Post subject:
MartinW wrote:
EDIT:

1. Quote of my sentence: "I bet you are IT engineer and a maniac hobbyst". Where do you see "sort of genius" hint? I am 12 years old, please explain me, Grandpa.

2. "you think that when someone has a very basic understanding of the nervous system and also knows what frequency means in the context of monitor refresh rate".
I am very firghtened of you knowing what I think. You "forgot" to say that this guy (Kachain) also mentioned the speed of bullet which I did not know (of course Old Man, like you, knew that in the age of 5? Or maybe 7?) and explained rather complex topic (ping impact on game status) in a very easy to understand way (for a noob like me, not you, Master).

3. "this is information you learn before you finish secondary school". Grandpa, I know you are old but I hope with clever brain. In the time you attended (?) the secondary school they were learning definitions like: 'vertical synchronization', 'speed of bullet', brain study? Come on, you did learn with Einstein, right?


LOL, the average speed of a bullet is a simple fact, there is no learning or understanding required there. Just like the speed of light or sound.

Brain study? It's simple biology, and yes I did learn simple autonomic reflex arcs in secondary school, along with refresh rates and ping significance in IT.

I'm not a 'master' or any shit like that, I just listened. Maybe you should try it.

For your information i'm 19.


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 00:12    Post subject:
Stop bitching in my thread where I bitch about SBC. If you want to bitch take it #outside on efnet.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 01:25    Post subject:
Hey Mchart, maybe you answered this, but why did you downgrade? I would never dream of touching my connection Razz

In fact, I'd upgrade if I could.

Just can't afford it or you just aren't using it and don't wanna pay for it?


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 01:44    Post subject:
I was using the 1mbit upload but not the 6mbit download. So now i'm at 3mbit/512kb. It's more reasonable for the download speed, still an OK upload speed, and its saving me $20 a month.
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PostPosted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 09:25    Post subject:
May I ask what is the cost of 6/1 and 3/0.5? I am interested in the US prices - are they all the same/similar for each state?
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