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couleur
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I am emotionally connected to this layout and colours.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 16:49 Post subject: |
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I am a sick and cruel person 
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 17:05 Post subject: |
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I am sexually attracted to this layout and color!
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 17:10 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | I also had it on the left, but then the "more" options for the thread remained on the right because I couldn't put it to the left as there is the nfo logo, which holds all general options, like login/logout/go to profile/search and so on.
Really, I am open for suggestions, just open mspaint, and put some boxes and pointers in there 
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Edit: Regarding pages -> Our system is not really suited for a lot of pages anyway. I always calculate the number and modify the number in the http address, because you only see the first 3 pages, then ... and then the last three. At least jumping to a page should be implemented.
Hmm.. In my first layout I had a hybrid page/infinite scroll implementation (It adds virtual lines seperating pages in there and scrolling with the right button will also show you the page you are scrolling to |
Ah so it has a whole expanding menu in the logo? Well makes more sense for no sidebar and the user info to the left then (still will feel massively weird to me tho  ).
If one can use page number (thought we had to go by post number) to jump to said page I'm fine with that new approach would be akward at first but I think that would be something getting used fairly fast and in the way you explained it seems to be a better system.
It's actually easier to swallow when I hear the benefits of it for me as a PC user (don't use phones or tablets unless at boring family dinners ).
I don't want to block change for my own personal feelings tho. If the functionality is there for me, than I'll have an easier time with adapting to it. I jumped too fast on it, but I'm not a web designer so I'm actually glad to see your thought process on it. And I'm already less against it. |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 17:13 Post subject: |
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Maybe I should just build a small showcase and then you can hang me publicly afterwards 
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 17:22 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | Maybe I should just build a small showcase and then you can hang me publicly afterwards |
Actually you should
It's our baby we are too emotionally involved |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 23:12 Post subject: |
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| couleur wrote: | | I am emotionally connected to this layout and colours. |
It's such a strong bond.. 
I appreciate your efforts Pumpy, but I realized that something so different would make me feel a lil' bit uncomfortable. Perhaps it's because I'm too grumpy and old-fashioned xD, or perhaps it's because I only browse the forums from the desktop so I'm not familiar with the annoyances of the mobile life. I don't know, honestly I find this vintage layout perfectly functional.  Some features can be added, bugs can be fixed (and there are many), but the NFOrce soul shall be preserved, imo. ^^ |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 23:18 Post subject: |
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The colors can be perfectly reproduced on a mobile theme. I don't think people should be afraid of a mobile theme just because they see Pumpy's example here with the incorrect colors.
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garus
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 23:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Apr 2014 00:10 Post subject: |
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Hey, as I said no photoshop and visio only has limited colors by default :/ Also the ugly icons are windings and webdings
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Apr 2014 00:12 Post subject: |
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Admins don't have time and don't trust no one. Worst combination of admins. People are willing to help but nope.
There is no reason why trust cannot be given to LONG TIME AND GOOD STANDING MEMBERS such as yourself and PumpAction, who are actually willing to do the work. Also, no real data has to be given, just the software; if you know how to export+import new database, it will work the same for old database.
But no, see you in 7 months when mrt actually bothers to post his "plans" and in 1602873601289736 months when he shows up again to remind us his showing of the plans and how busy he has been.
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Apr 2014 00:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Apr 2014 13:00 Post subject: |
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please don't candy this place up
the new slashdot theme is terrible already, and that mockup looks the same
we don't need gigantic icons and smooth entry transitions just because it's popular
i don't get the compulsion to make everything look like it was designed for the geriatric ward
giant iconic buttons and limited information and functions so nobody even can make a mistake
there are sensible updates that can be made of course
font and icon sizes should stay sensible and contained information and functionality shouldn't be reduced
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| Posted: Wed, 16th Apr 2014 13:04 Post subject: |
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[mrt]
[Admin] Code Monkey
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 14:21 Post subject: |
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Hey guys,
Nice to see some constructive feedback building up here. I like the specifics which were missing from all the previous "iterations".
One thing I have to comment on is this though. I feel it is out of line and misguiding. I am not taking offense but I feel the record needs to stay straight.
Read below.
| LeoNatan wrote: | What can't be changed is admins not doing any work on the site, having left it mostly for dead.
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They are not getting paid? Fine, I am willing to accept that, so add other people with access to the source so they can work. Clearly there are people here willing to put in the effort. But no, mrt teases here for a weak that "a change is coming", even forks some GitLab shit, then disappears for months.  If you are not willing to do any minimal work, then don't tease. |
That is grossly off. How can you say that? An attempt was made to bring people in and hand-off work, because I know I am very time limited and cannot put in the hours needed.
I set up all the tools and even private repositories. Gathered the people in hope to get the ball rolling but the spark soon died out. I can set up tools, install repositories, provide support but I cannot and will not beg people to help out. This isn't a job. Its a place where people can invest their time if they wish. And only if they wish. It is their to offer nontheless. I will not make or push anyone to work if they do not want so by their own will.
| garus wrote: | The problem with this upgrade is: admins don't have time to do this AND they can't outsource that to one (or more) of us because they would have to trust us with users' data (for migration of posts and topics).
There are dozens open source forums we could use. I have a lot of experience in exporting/importing/transforming data between formats and whole technologies. |
Thanks garus. You are mostly right. But its not an issue as far as I see.
The new forum software can be setup and built-up totally seperate from the current database. In the end a tool is built to port over the data and that is it.
Everything else is completely decoupled. The laout the code, the structure of the DB.
| LeoNatan wrote: | Admins don't have time and don't trust no one. Worst combination of admins. People are willing to help but nope.
There is no reason why trust cannot be given to LONG TIME AND GOOD STANDING MEMBERS such as yourself and PumpAction, who are actually willing to do the work. Also, no real data has to be given, just the software; if you know how to export+import new database, it will work the same for old database.
But no, see you in 7 months when mrt actually bothers to post his "plans" and in 1602873601289736 months when he shows up again to remind us his showing of the plans and how busy he has been. |
This doesn't deserve a comment. I already made a case above. You are very angry and insulting in these posts. If you have any beef with me please contact me in private and we can sort it out. But please don't do this out in the open.
In the end you have been brought into the development team and you could have shown initiative on your own if you felt things died out but I have not recieved even one message from you asking what is going on or what can you do to get things rolling again. Your last login to the repository was 8 months ago.
Belive me I'd like to see things happen here. I would love to give you a new website, a new forum and anything else. Unfortunately I am unable to do that at the moment. However I am willing to help out and provide support as I already promised when the project began.
Anyway. I hope this post clears up some things for the community and thank you for your support.
Now keep the ideas coming. My original offer still stands, and the webservers and repositories are still available
teey
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 14:33 Post subject: |
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Well I replied to your PM last summer (you asked for my email so you could add me to the repo and whatnot) and never got anything after that
You sent the PM while I was on holiday so it took a couple of weeks before I replied, but my offer still stands too. I don't have copious amounts of time, but I'm more than willing to work on things. The easiest way will be exactly what you suggest, set up a fresh database with a new installation and "simply" write a migration tool. I've done dozens of the latter for our clients, so I know the caveats I'll run into and how to make the migration manageable.
I don't know what you've set up so far, but if we can get a separate sub forum to discuss what (not) to do and who's gonna do what I'll happily start work on it.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 14:40 Post subject: |
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mrt, I have no beef with you. It is just that you excited me with news whenever it was long time ago, and then things went silent. This was really sad to me, so I probably overreacted. But lately I feel that this forum has been abandoned, and this I don't like. Mods are overworked and there is no one to add new mods to help alleviate the pressure. People vote for VIPs and wait for a month for someone to come and approve. I understand you guys are busy, but this abandoning is not fair for the users here too. That's also insulting to the entire user base. I understand you are busy, I really do, and can relate to this. But you should add more personnel that can do these tasks in your stead. There are many good people here. Thanks and sorry for the rant. Don't mind me, I am above my usual bitterness the last few months for reasons I will not go into.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 18:49 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | I don't like the idea of infinite scroll. Most implementations are ultra crappy, when you navigate to a link and press back, you are back at the top.
Reddit's mobile version has that annoying shitty feature and I hate it. |
This, infinite scroll sucks. Only way that might somewhat work is to have it optional and include at least a link for offsets (this isn't that hard).
What I would like to see is if you click on a link to a page you've already visited that it goes directly to your last read post (often the last page probably). The links for 1, 2 Next should be bigger as well to make it more mobile friendly (I do read the hump on my tablet and it doesn't work that nice imo, it's tedious to browse). But at least 90% of the current theme (at least the colors) including the emoticons shouldn't be that hard to keep).
| LeoNatan wrote: | Admins don't have time and don't trust no one. Worst combination of admins. People are willing to help but nope.
There is no reason why trust cannot be given to LONG TIME AND GOOD STANDING MEMBERS such as yourself and PumpAction, who are actually willing to do the work. Also, no real data has to be given, just the software; if you know how to export+import new database, it will work the same for old database.
But no, see you in 7 months when mrt actually bothers to post his "plans" and in 1602873601289736 months when he shows up again to remind us his showing of the plans and how busy he has been. |
This is absolutely bullshit. mrt asked several times for help and absolutely made efforts to get the ball rolling. He also asked me to PM once I had some time available for an upgrade. I wish I had some more time but I still don't have that much time unfortunately. If we want to start with an upgrade we should at least start with the theme I think.
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 18:53 Post subject: |
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BTW, is there any reason why the board can't do the normal upgrade mrt?
PC: Yes. Console: No.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 19:28 Post subject: |
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Maybe someone should come up with a plan of action? There doesn't have to be time limits but a plan of what needs to be done and who are the guys who can do it.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 20:19 Post subject: |
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| Areius wrote: | | BTW, is there any reason why the board can't do the normal upgrade mrt? |
This was already answered. Too much custom stuff has been done to the humps, at least that is what I remember. |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Apr 2014 20:24 Post subject: |
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Also please throw in an optional low-fi/low quality theme so I can also see the humps at work incognito 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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[mrt]
[Admin] Code Monkey
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Apr 2014 21:10 Post subject: |
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@LeoNatan Glad we cleared the air. Your help is still welcome if you wish to pitch in.
| Areius wrote: | | BTW, is there any reason why the board can't do the normal upgrade mrt? |
What pump said.
Whatever it is, I think first priority is skinning the board. I wouldn't diviate too far from what we have now. But I would modernize it. Put some bells and whistles on it and the sorts. @PumpAction I would be looking to you for this job.
The second main thing would be to integrate the forum accounts with the websites accounts and make it seamless like it is now. Who is good with PHP+MySQL and has the time to do that?
Later when these points are sorted I would go from there.
teey
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Horrordee
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2014 13:08 Post subject: |
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Seems to me MRT is prepared to provide access (and in cases already has done) to people willing to develop for NFOHump. It looks to me there is a lot of hot air here, but no one able to devote the time / has the skills to actually do it.
Please direct members to this thread if people want to pick up and undertake NFOHump development.
Space for rent. Contact me for rates!
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2014 14:10 Post subject: |
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Oh but there is Horrordee, it's just that last summer when I replied to mrt's PM I never got anything back. And he has PM'd me again now, saying that I do have a user on the repositories - except I don't even know where to find those, since I've never received that information 
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2014 15:01 Post subject: |
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I can forward you whatever I received werelds
@mrt: Thanks for the trust and I welcome everybody who has knowledge of phpbb skinning
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Horrordee
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2014 15:17 Post subject: |
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Awesome Werelds - I am sure MRT will send you this info again.
MRT - have you / can you create a hidden sub-forum for admins, mods and people added to the repo? Can be used to discuss ongoing dev.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Apr 2014 15:31 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | I can forward you whatever I received werelds |
Might as well, just need to know where to find what. mrt said I can just use reset my password if I've lost it (which I haven't since I've never set one in the first place  ). |
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