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Is DDR-1600 ram fast enough to overclock an i5 750 or 760 to 3.8-4.1 Ghz? I assume that DDR 1333 is not enough, right?
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 15:40 Post subject: |
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DDR3-1066 is enough to hit 4 GHz on one of those, it has very little to do with what you can achieve as a CPU overclock provided it's not linked.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 15:43 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | provided it's not linked. |
Yep, that's what I was about to say. As long as you're not interested in running 1:1 (and let's face it; RAM is so goddamn fast these days that you really don't need to worry about 1:1 FSB/RAM ratios unless you're a hardcore benchmarker and only interested in purely synthetic results) you can push your processor as far as you want without being hindered by memory speeds. I honestly don't even remember the last time I ran 1:1 .. and even before that it was just to test the difference between linked and non-linked (... it was nothing special anyhow)
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 18:21 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | Is DDR-1600 ram fast enough to overclock an i5 750 or 760 to 3.8-4.1 Ghz? I assume that DDR 1333 is not enough, right? |
RAM and CPU speeds are separate these days. When you change BCLK (similar to FSB) you choose multipliers for RAM to select which speed you want them to run @.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 18:26 Post subject: |
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Thanks good answers! It's pretty interesting to see how much more faster ram costs :/
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 20:47 Post subject: |
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And so pointless to go for the more expensive ones! 
Assembling my new system now, finally :>
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 21:18 Post subject: |
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still missing my gtx 460 which will come only next week, atm i have to go live with 8800gt in sli, which does performs rather well
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 21:21 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | I want to know why AwE's desktop theme looks like the one in OSX.  |
http://osx.portraitofakite.com/
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I installed win 7 on my desktop pc a week ago. 
Had xp running for several years without the need to reinstall - and once I have some shit installed - servers, software, games, etc. and all runs fine, I am way to lazy to go through the painfull process of reinstalling, backing up all stuff, etc...
This xp even survived one mainboard change, two graphic card changes, three cpu changes, a ram upgrade and whatnot...
I only switched to w7 (have it runing on my laptop since ages) because my brand new used bought ssd likes 7 more than xp (trim).
And as feared, it was a painfull process... like moving homes...
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 22:24 Post subject: |
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An upgrade is easier though, I've upgraded several systems directly from XP to Win7, worked fine for me o_O
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 22:50 Post subject: |
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| AwE wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | I want to know why AwE's desktop theme looks like the one in OSX. |
http://osx.portraitofakite.com/
Edit:
I installed win 7 on my desktop pc a week ago.
Had xp running for several years without the need to reinstall - and once I have some shit installed - servers, software, games, etc. and all runs fine, I am way to lazy to go through the painfull process of reinstalling, backing up all stuff, etc...
This xp even survived one mainboard change, two graphic card changes, three cpu changes, a ram upgrade and whatnot...
I only switched to w7 (have it runing on my laptop since ages) because my brand new used bought ssd likes 7 more than xp (trim).
And as feared, it was a painfull process... like moving homes... |
I had the same experience, perhaps skipping Vista was a bad idea, it could at least have prepared me a little. Win 7 seems like a monstrosity to me, compared to XP almost everything has been redesigned. Things that worked properly in XP aren't in Win 7 and the thing I hate the most about Win 7 is the control freak behaviour of it. Even if it runs processes and games faster than XP it seems like a big compromise to me.
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 23:13 Post subject: |
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I personally have never liked XP, but that's because I've actively used every Windows version since 3.1 and 3.11. It's not as bad as WinME was, but it was unusable at launch. Vista was heavy at launch, but it was perfectly usable. XP had much worse driver support than both Vista and 7 at launch, and it was the most unstable piece of shit ever. It wasn't until SP2 that it became stable enough for anyone doing more than just text-editing, and I kept using Win2K until then.
Not to mention the fugly default interface with the teletubby background and buttons, I definitely prefer 7 or even Vista in that regard. Worst part is that it's based off Win2K which was brilliant, but they fucked it up royally :/
Right, rant over, here's the result of the "OC Genie" button on my MSI P55-GD65. Not bad for a single button noob-proof overclock, but I'm gonna turn it off and do it myself now 
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 23:50 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | I personally have never liked XP, but that's because I've actively used every Windows version since 3.1 and 3.11. It's not as bad as WinME was, but it was unusable at launch. Vista was heavy at launch, but it was perfectly usable. XP had much worse driver support than both Vista and 7 at launch, and it was the most unstable piece of shit ever. It wasn't until SP2 that it became stable enough for anyone doing more than just text-editing, and I kept using Win2K until then.
Not to mention the fugly default interface with the teletubby background and buttons, I definitely prefer 7 or even Vista in that regard. Worst part is that it's based off Win2K which was brilliant, but they fucked it up royally :/
Right, rant over, here's the result of the "OC Genie" button on my MSI P55-GD65. Not bad for a single button noob-proof overclock, but I'm gonna turn it off and do it myself now
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my board has same shit in bios, called auto tune, no need to open case or shit like that 
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wtf? and u blaming os coz of your own mistakes
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 23:54 Post subject: |
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So far so good, been priming it for 25 minutes now, perfectly stable.
Sitting at 200.5 BCLK * 21 MP = 4210 MHz. Vcore 1.38 at the moment, but I haven't begun tuning it down yet. I can't go much further though, because I've got it all built into a temporary case that has absolutely no airflow whatsoever
Gonna watch some TV while I let this prime for a bit ^_^
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Sep 2010 23:54 Post subject: |
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which cooler u using and what idle load u got?
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 00:09 Post subject: |
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Thermaltake Frio, idles at 42 degrees, so far under load it has topped out at 78 degrees, so I'd say the Frio does its job fairly well consider I have got no cool air flowing in. Suppose I could take the side off, but then the dust is just gonna heap up
Gonna see if I've got some old casefans laying around that fit into this, I'll just cut out a hole in the side and mount one there
Need my Phantom damned 
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 00:39 Post subject: |
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I'll add a proper cpu-z overclock shot next time i ramp it up to play with the new cpc benchmark when it drops.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Sep 2010 09:39 Post subject: |
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Yeah but like I said, I've got 0 airflow in this thing right now
And 1.37v on the core is a LOT, just tuned it back to 1.30 and it's idling at 35 now. So far it seems stable as well :}
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 07:39 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 14:39 Post subject: |
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I have a question. If I would OC my Athlon II X3 435 (stock @2,9 Ghz) to, say 3,1 GHz, would I need to worry about changing cooler? Because I have stock cooler and temps are always around 30°C...
And what gain would I have?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 14:54 Post subject: |
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The gain would be fairly small. I haven't had an AMD CPU in a long time, but I'm guessing that 30 degrees is with Cool 'n Quiet active; what are your temps when you stress it?
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 15:04 Post subject: |
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This is core temp and cpu-z snapshot.
Last night I was playing BC2 and temps (according to Core Temp) didn't reach 40°C
Oh and I read that Athlons sometimes have dormant L3 cache and 4th core (that they have). Also I read that not all have L3. How do I find that out?
If I try to enable, is it reversible? Because unlocking these cores can backfire...
EDIT: I found out how to see if I have hidden L3 cache... I would have to look at the proc directly -.-''
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Sep 2010 15:10 Post subject: |
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Just look at CPU-Z, no L3 cache listed there 
Anyway, if you reach 40 under load then you have plenty of room, you can probably easily get up to 3.5 GHz without any risk. I don't know how well your particular model overclocks though, I really don't know enough about AMD anymore
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