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boundle
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:08    Post subject:
@ xTerro

just cause u have ever downloaded something from steam u don't know how games really work. this are the proofs. continue to download extracted gcfs and homemade isos
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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:27    Post subject:
wtf is wrong with homemade iso's i dont get it. what is wrong with protection not removed but emulated. you must be the only one bothered by that
edit : sure, if VTY manage to remove it after a while thats cool, if not.. who cares really


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:30    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
wtf is wrong with homemade iso's i dont get it. what is wrong with protection not removed but emulated. you must be the only one bothered by that


Shit yeah. I'm with you on that!

If it works, I'll play it. I don't care HOW it works, just that it DOES. Be it home-made ISOs, VM emulated cracks, or just good old fashioned work-arounds.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:31    Post subject:
@ Vikerness

steam emulated? i don't know what is it for now. to emulate an account, a key and the download of games and their updates from the originals servers u use pac steam? and from the retail isos u ask at ghostbusters to make a backup for u? :lol:


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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:44    Post subject:
did you actually read what i said boundle or did you just twist my words so they woudlnt make sense? my point was that almost noone cares what method is used as long as its playable.
look at Unleashed and their release for Portal or HL EP2. does anyone care?
ITS PLAYABLE


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noxxle




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:45    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
@ Vikerness

steam emulated? i don't know what is it for now. and what u use to emulate an account, a key and the download of games and their updates from the originals servers? pac steam? and from the retail isos u ask at ghostbusters to make a backup for u? Laughing


PacSteam only lets you download and play games from steam OFFLINE. Unless you connect to private/cracked servers.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:52    Post subject:
@ noxxle

steam OFFLINE don't exist. to download full games and play them from steam u have to be anyway ONLINE with the client running. u can just only use the extracted files if u don't have a connection. steam is able to run games only with a connection active everytime


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 22:58    Post subject:
@boundle

English is ur 2nd language, right?


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boundle
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:01    Post subject:
@ Newty182

no but i think to make me understand in some way
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:10    Post subject:
dude im finding it hard to understand what ur saying. have u used pac steam before? i used CF toolbox (think that was what its called) once and i could download and play any steam games i wanted. havnt tried it in a while tho.

noxxle's point was u cant play pac steam games on official servers.


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boundle
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:14    Post subject:
@ Newty182

yes already tryed it but it sucks anyway. don't exist yet a full working emulator for steam. u get steam servers busy with almost all games with this shit. don't know CF toolbox and how it work.


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noxxle




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:19    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
dude im finding it hard to understand what ur saying. have u used pac steam before? i used CF toolbox (think that was what its called) once and i could download and play any steam games i wanted. havnt tried it in a while tho.

noxxle's point was u cant play pac steam games on official servers.


And that with pacsteam you CAN play steam games offline.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:20    Post subject:
Does CF Toolbox support game downloads better than PacSteam? Last I tried PacSteam, it failed on pretty much all the "big" Steam Games and only downloaded the crappy ones like Popcap stuff.
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noxxle




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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:22    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
@ Newty182

yes already tryed it but it sucks anyway. don't exist yet a full working emulator for steam. u get steam servers busy with almost all games with this shit


What do you mean? When you try to download the game or connect to a MP server? I already said you cannot connect to official servers with pacsteam.

If you mean that you cannot download the game from steam, then you are right that many games cannot be downloaded from steam with pacsteam. However, you can use pacsteam to play GCF files that you have downloaded from somewhere other than steam.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:24    Post subject:
@ sabin1981

pacsteam is a rubbish like almost all tools that u can use to try to emulate steam and his dynamics dll. Valve have win with it. servers where u download game are protected and there is not a only system to fuck them
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:34    Post subject:
The last time I fiddled with Steam emulation, ( around January this year ) the whole thing was very easy to get working; download Steam, register, use the cracked patch, move the gcf's to the steamapps folder and then apply the various updates with GCFPatcher or sumthin'.

That was it; it probably didn't worked back then with any kind off online games but I couldn't care less about those.
Played Ep2 without a single crash and checked out a couple of mods too( Minerva mod ) .


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:34    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
@ sabin1981

pacsteam is a rubbish like almost all tools that u can use to try to emulate steam and his dynamics dll. Valve have win with it. servers are protected and there is not a only system to fuck them

Wat? Razz

Boundle, there used to be apps that could connect to steam, like SteamDown, with which you could fully download steam games without even buying the game or having a valid key. I've used this method successfully to play HL2, HL2DM and CS:S with it, offline ofcourse.

I don't know if this app still exists or works, but Steam never was bulletproof against crackers.

Steam's security is alot better now i guess, but still, groups don't bother with Steam releases cuz disc releases are a lot more easier to get by and crack.

Also, i would recommend to actually pay attention next time when you've got English class.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Aug 2008 23:52    Post subject:
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@ Flowmo

naturally if u would to play full games u have to have steam installed. retail discs are impossible to crack almost until now anyone have make a single crack for them. they have an antipiracy installer and u have to download games also if u get it into store


Well, I guess CF Toolbox works for me, Sir. I'm currently downloading a FULL game using a BOGUS account thanks to CF Toolbox.

Let's see how many games this works with Wink
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boundle
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:03    Post subject:
@ sabin1981

good luck but if u have some original games on your real account there is the risk to be banned from valve and will lose account and full games. let me then know if u can download everything from here and naturally make every update. CF toolbox is a kind of emulator like pacsteam?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:10    Post subject:
Are you nuts? I'm not stupid enough to download anything on my REAL account! Razz

I doubt it'll work though. PacSteam only allowed the crappier stuff like PopCap. Arx Fatalis is working now, but when I tried "Call of Duty 2" it said "game file not found or not owned" Rolling Eyes
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boundle
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:24    Post subject:
@ sabin1981

this are the proofs that there is nothing until now to make working real steam games and steam is high proof of crack. only for some games u have full access to download and then only until when Valve don't go to update them. games that get dayly updates u can't get them working for nothing from here


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:29    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
@ sabin1981

this are the proofs that there is nothing until now to make working real steam games. only for some games u have allowed


Wrong. You can't AUTOMATICALLY download the files from the Steam servers .. but you CAN download the GCF/NCF archives seperately and then run them through any Steam emulator.

Don't take my inability to download them directly as a failure or "proof that real working Steam games don't exist" Because that's erroneous. A lot of sites, including Rin.Ru have COMPLETE download links for all the current GCF files.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:38    Post subject:
@ sabin1981

steam is based on the automatic system of download of games and updates. so u can't download nothing automatically and what is it? :D


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:39    Post subject:
Updates come in the forum of updated GCF and NCF files, again, freely available on any number of sites. You're arguing against cast-iron fact. Steam HAS been cracked and you can get, and play, almost ANY game on Steam.
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boundle
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:48    Post subject:
@ sabin1981

for u DTN or unleashed are able to crack games? DTN releases are almost all nukked. unleashed are able to make good clones but are not able to crack nothing. making extracted steam releases not mean that steam is cracked. steam will be cracked when u will have the possibility with a bogus account to download everything automatically REAL and every single gcfs and ncf file for free from the REAL steam servers. this also from the retail isos. just u install the client and every game that u wont u can get it and play it online naturally :P
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:56    Post subject:
*sigh*

Who are YOU to decide what constitutes a crack or not? In my opinion, a cracked release is one that allows you to play the game without triggering the protection. That's an incredibly simple, and weak, explanation but one that applies to this scenario.

"Steam cracked" doesn't mean "You can download everythiing via the Steam client and play for free" It just means that there are cracked clients with the ability to play illegally acquired files, rather than paying for them.

As for "nuked releases" - again, who are you to decide whether they're valid or not? Scene "rules"? Oh yeah, the scene is really impressive lately isn't it? (that was sarcasm by the way)

If a downloaded game can be played, then it doesn't matter WHAT method is used.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 00:59    Post subject:
boundle wrote:
@ sabin1981steam will be cracked when u will have the possibility with a bogus account to download everything automatically REAL and every single gcfs and ncf file for free from the REAL steam servers.Razz
Then what do you call being able to get the GCF's from another source, update them with GCFToolbox, launch Steam and play just about any single player game?

Seems cracked to me... Confused
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 01:03    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Then what do you call being able to get the GCF's from another source, update them with GCFToolbox, launch Steam and play just about any single player game?

Seems cracked to me... Confused


My point precisely. If you ask ANYONE what their definition of PacSteam and other derivatives is; they'd say "cracked Steam"
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boundle
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 01:05    Post subject:
@ tonizito

u can't get nothing from the real servers anyway with pacsteam or other. the updates are automatic from here. and then for the retail isos u can install the client for full and use the key to unlock game? i don't have every seen so


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 01:07    Post subject:
Boundle... I'm not sure, but aren't you really "NPiracy" on an alt? It seems neither of you two can accept the fact that protections CAN and WILL be broken. Steam has been broken. You can download the game files in GFC format, load them into PacSteam or whatever, and then play. Without having bought the game.

When the English version of STALKER CS comes out on Steam, and as long as it doesn't use the activation protection like Bioshock did, it will be cracked within hours.
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