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Supermax2004
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 14:21    Post subject:
I install the game, start sfcure, disable cd and node and cut the cable of my dvd burner off. Then i mount and play nothing else works fine for every SF3 game expect X3....i havent tried it yet ^^
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SirSmokesAlot




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 23:58    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
OR

1.Install game via DT or Alcohol
2. Manually disable IDE drives
3. Start SFcure
4. Disable CD and Disable node in SFN
5. Play game

Oh, leave mounted in DT or Alcohol...either of which work fine.


Heh, this worked for me. Thanks Smile


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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2005 00:01    Post subject:
SirSmokesAlot wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
OR

1.Install game via DT or Alcohol
2. Manually disable IDE drives
3. Start SFcure
4. Disable CD and Disable node in SFN
5. Play game

Oh, leave mounted in DT or Alcohol...either of which work fine.


Heh, this worked for me. Thanks Smile


Smile Np

Compliments of Baleur tho Smile


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geestring




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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 07:09    Post subject:
wtf i tried the method right above... doesnt work.. get an error when is tart the game...

do i have to replug my dvd drive? what sort of emulation do i check off in daemon tools?
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sexyjesus
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 17:41    Post subject:
Here is another idea, second only to the best one that SpankingJesus mentioned - refuse to pay for Starforce protected games - and that is to call tech support and flood them with Starforce issues. If you have bought a Starforce game - lord help you - then a call or two to tech support bitching that it won't work will also have a negative economic impact on the company. The more tech support calls they get on FUBAR'ed systems using Starforce will consume more of their resources.

I opt for not buying the game in the first place, but the second option sends a message that will be noticed more readily.
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Nov 2005 23:40    Post subject:
sexyjesus wrote:
Here is another idea, second only to the best one that SpankingJesus mentioned - refuse to pay for Starforce protected games - and that is to call tech support and flood them with Starforce issues. If you have bought a Starforce game - lord help you - then a call or two to tech support bitching that it won't work will also have a negative economic impact on the company. The more tech support calls they get on FUBAR'ed systems using Starforce will consume more of their resources.

I opt for not buying the game in the first place, but the second option sends a message that will be noticed more readily.


an anarchist at work...Wink Laughing


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Midhaven




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2005 08:21    Post subject:
sexyjesus wrote:
Here is another idea, second only to the best one that SpankingJesus mentioned - refuse to pay for Starforce protected games - and that is to call tech support and flood them with Starforce issues. If you have bought a Starforce game - lord help you - then a call or two to tech support bitching that it won't work will also have a negative economic impact on the company. The more tech support calls they get on FUBAR'ed systems using Starforce will consume more of their resources.

I opt for not buying the game in the first place, but the second option sends a message that will be noticed more readily.

Yeah, i'm thinking about performing some sort of ritual outside. I'll burn my splinter cell: chaos theory and pray we won't have to stand this wretched protection software much longer. Very Happy
Then I'll have someone slap me around a bit so I can remember never to buy anything starforce protected ever again. Razz
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Drahim




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Nov 2005 02:03    Post subject:
Another method,

Got the latest shareware Alc120% and burned the iso from there.
I enabled the option 'Burn as DVD-ROM"
Burned it a 1x

So i uninstalled d-tools & alc120%
Now the Starforce isnt complaining about the disc but still doesnt accept my cdkey.
Seems like it made a good cloned dvd?
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whackazog




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 01:57    Post subject:
Anyone know of the US release has starshit on it? Hopefully not.

<--never bought a starshit game, never will.
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sniperfin




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 03:46    Post subject:
Drahim wrote:
Another method,

Got the latest shareware Alc120% and burned the iso from there.
I enabled the option 'Burn as DVD-ROM"
Burned it a 1x

So i uninstalled d-tools & alc120%
Now the Starforce isnt complaining about the disc but still doesnt accept my cdkey.
Seems like it made a good cloned dvd?


No, you can't burn working dvd's from starforce 3 protected games (you can play burned dvd's via usb-dvd ,but not ide dvd,dvd-raw writhing mode is not possible yet and that is required to make 1:1 copy from starforce3 protected games). When starforce detects that you don't have genuine game,it reports that cd-key is wrong, it's just the way it works.
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Splitter71




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 10:19    Post subject:
How to disconnect IDE drives? I just don't get it.
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Crusher




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 10:20    Post subject:
You might uh... get scizzorsz and break your cables? Smile
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Splitter71




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 11:09    Post subject:
Yeah sounds simple Ill try it...


Mate it didnt work and somehow half of my computers memory just dissappeared...Sad
Could you tell me how to do it for real? Smile
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weird0
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 11:29    Post subject:

just pull that thing outta your cd/dvd-drives
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Splitter71




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 11:39    Post subject:
So I need to open my computers box and take that piece out? aww damnit
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alklas




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 12:21    Post subject:
weird0 wrote:

just pull that thing outta your cd/dvd-drives


geat post, this can't be more clear Smile
(except the black connectors might be red.)
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Splitter71




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 12:24    Post subject:
Did that... trying to get the game working now...
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Splitter71




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Nov 2005 12:41    Post subject:
Yeah... it works.
Do like Syko Shaman said on page 1
Althou its pretty laggy need to run with low even with:

P4 3,06ghz
ATI Radeon 9550
1556Ram...
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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 19:48    Post subject:
I have one SATA HDD, one IDE burner and no IDE HDDs and managed to run X3 Reunion the following way:

1) Installed DAEMON 4
2) Installed game & started it -> starforce installed itself -> rebooted
3) Created new hardware profile & rebooted into it
4) In Device Manager I disabled for the active hardware profile IDE burner and after that entire IDE channel
5) Started the game and it works fine even after updating to the latest patch

I don’t use SFCure(I don’t have windows native IDE drivers) & StarForce Nightmare(It doesn’t work for me. Well after ‘disable node-disable cd-disable node’ procedure in ‘My Computer’ my IDE burner disappears but still during starforce disk check it require me to insert disk into different drive)

I haven’t tried to do above procedure in DAEMON 3.47 as I haven’t bothered with StarForce protected games that require me to mess with SFCure & StarForce Nightmare. Heh I have waited for a promised starforce support in DAEMON 4 Smile

Hope it would help peoples with SATA drives…
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LastRite




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:20    Post subject:
Running daemon tools 4 and unplugged cables and my pc just restarts whilst it does the cd check Sad
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egoldner




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:29    Post subject:
alex7600 wrote:
I have one SATA HDD, one IDE burner and no IDE HDDs and managed to run X3 Reunion the following way:

1) Installed DAEMON 4
2) Installed game & started it -> starforce installed itself -> rebooted
3) Created new hardware profile & rebooted into it
4) In Device Manager I disabled for the active hardware profile IDE burner and after that entire IDE channel
5) Started the game and it works fine even after updating to the latest patch


hey mate..
I have a Sata HDD here and SFN isn't working with games that are after 3.5 starforce protected... ( at least the sequence that i make : desable node, desable CD, desable node )!
Can you explain in a better way steps 3 and 4 !! I don't undesrtande waht you mean by create new Hardware profile!!
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paraiso36




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 21:34    Post subject:
alklas wrote:
weird0 wrote:

just pull that thing outta your cd/dvd-drives


geat post, this can't be more clear Smile
(except the black connectors might be red.)


Yes you are half right....The cables may even be tubular..not flat..so that maybe a problem. Laughing
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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Nov 2005 23:13    Post subject:
egoldner wrote:
alex7600 wrote:
I have one SATA HDD, one IDE burner and no IDE HDDs and managed to run X3 Reunion the following way:

1) Installed DAEMON 4
2) Installed game & started it -> starforce installed itself -> rebooted
3) Created new hardware profile & rebooted into it
4) In Device Manager I disabled for the active hardware profile IDE burner and after that entire IDE channel
5) Started the game and it works fine even after updating to the latest patch


hey mate..
I have a Sata HDD here and SFN isn't working with games that are after 3.5 starforce protected... ( at least the sequence that i make : desable node, desable CD, desable node )!
Can you explain in a better way steps 3 and 4 !! I don't undesrtande waht you mean by create new Hardware profile!!

Hardwire profiles – mechanism to manage different hardwire configurations in WinXP(and I think in win2000 I haven’t used that much). If you have more than one profile then during windows boot procedure you will be able to choice the one you want.

here we go
1) Open ‘System’ control panel
2) ‘Hardware’ tab -> ‘Hardware Profiles’
3) Select profile ending with ‘(Current)’ and click ‘Copy’
4) If desired change profile name and click ‘OK’
5) Close ‘Hardware Profiles’ window by clicking ‘OK’
6) Reboot
7) Select your newly created profile
8) Open ‘System’ control panel
9) ‘Hardware’ tab -> ‘Device Manager’
10) Select your IDE controller(on nForce4 with nvidia IDE drivers installed it is named ‘NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller’) -> right mouse click -> 'Properties'
11) In ‘General’ tab in ‘Device usage’ menu select ‘Do not use this device in the current hardware profile (disable)’
12) Click ‘OK’
13) Repeat steps 10 to 12 for each IDE controller
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KGen




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 12:28    Post subject:
No luck here...did as alex proposed. Sad


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WhiteBarbarian




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 13:31    Post subject:
Just tried running UFO: Aftershock – WORKS ! No SFCure, no SFNightmare just vanilla DAEMON 4 with all emulation options OFF and disabled IDE controller in Device Manager

Here my specs:
Abit AN8 Ultra
Athlon 64 3700+
2GB RAM
GeForce 7800GTX
1 SATA-II HDD
1 IDE DVD burner
0 IDE HDDs
WindowsXP SP 2
nVidia nForce4 drivers installed(IDE, SATA, Ethernet, etc…)
Secondary IDE channel disabled in BIOS
Primary IDE channel disabled in Device Manager via Hardware Profiles
DAEMON 4 with one virtual drive and all emulations options – OFF
There are no other virtual drives tools installed(Alcohol 120, cloneCD, etc...)
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paraiso36




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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 14:30    Post subject:
alex7600 wrote:
Just tried running UFO: Aftershock – WORKS ! No SFCure, no SFNightmare just vanilla DAEMON 4 with all emulation options OFF and disabled IDE controller in Device Manager

Here my specs:
Abit AN8 Ultra
Athlon 64 3700+
2GB RAM
GeForce 7800GTX
1 SATA-II HDD
1 IDE DVD burner
0 IDE HDDs
WindowsXP SP 2
nVidia nForce4 drivers installed(IDE, SATA, Ethernet, etc…)
Secondary IDE channel disabled in BIOS
Primary IDE channel disabled in Device Manager via Hardware Profiles
DAEMON 4 with one virtual drive and all emulations options – OFF
There are no other virtual drives tools installed(Alcohol 120, cloneCD, etc...)


Good News,

I have similar SATA and IDE configuration except that my motherboard is INTEL..I will give it a try with UFO and your technic during night..thanks
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 16:05    Post subject:
weird0 wrote:

just pull that thing outta your cd/dvd-drives


weird0...I hereby salute you and grand you the title "NFOrce problem solver"

That's just gold...very nice Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 16:07    Post subject:
paraiso36 wrote:

Good News,

I have similar SATA and IDE configuration except that my motherboard is INTEL..I will give it a try with UFO and your technic during night..thanks

I have quite similar config:
Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 (VIA K8T800)
1 SATA - Windows XP SP2
1 IDE Master - DVD Writer
1 IDE Slave - DVD Reader
2 IDE Master - empty
2 IDE Slave - empty
VIA Hyperion Latest, both IDE channels disabled in Device Manager
And UFO doesn't work Sad
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weird0
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PostPosted: Wed, 16th Nov 2005 16:12    Post subject:
ApeX PredatoR wrote:
weird0 wrote:

just pull that thing outta your cd/dvd-drives
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/1807/idecable25yt.jpg


weird0...I hereby salute you and grand you the title "NFOrce problem solver"

That's just gold...very nice Very Happy


"a picture is worth a thousand words" Very Happy
nah...i don't deserve that title. that's like the first problem i have solved here.
usually i just spam bullshit and seek for attention Rolling Eyes Razz
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KGen




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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2005 09:09    Post subject:
Skibbi wrote:
paraiso36 wrote:

Good News,

I have similar SATA and IDE configuration except that my motherboard is INTEL..I will give it a try with UFO and your technic during night..thanks

I have quite similar config:
Gigabyte GA-K8VT800 (VIA K8T800)
1 SATA - Windows XP SP2
1 IDE Master - DVD Writer
1 IDE Slave - DVD Reader
2 IDE Master - empty
2 IDE Slave - empty
VIA Hyperion Latest, both IDE channels disabled in Device Manager
And UFO doesn't work Sad


I think it has something to do with him having Nforce 4 mobo. No matter how hard I tried I couldn't hide the ide devices from starforce. Windows didnt see them, SIS Ide utility didn't see them, BIOS didn't detect them...and yet, the X3 didn't work. Confused Anyway, as soon as I took that cable out, everything worked like a charm. Bummer.

Maybe it has something to do with Alcohol that I have installed? I disabled it in device manager, but maybe there is more to it than that.
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