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vurt
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Agree first episode was really good, then i got bored.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2022 17:42 Post subject: |
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Sounds like my kind of series.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2022 19:01 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2022 19:19 Post subject: |
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Such faggotry from both Netflix and the xirs 
Keep the tags and ignore the retards, how hard can it be? Never give ground, never apologize to these faggots, ever.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2022 19:22 Post subject: |
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I'm on the fence about it.
Tagging it "LGBTQ" is technically correct, but also one about Ted Bundy would have "Straight" tag..if they had one.
I say unless they are tagging every movie with with gender the subject would happen to like to sleep with..don't add it to any because then the reasoning for adding it isnt in line with the rest.
@tonizito
I am confused now, When they add it to a movie: it is pandering and not needed and should be removed. When they remove it because those people complain: keep it added?
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Sep 2022 21:49 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | @tonizito
I am confused now |
Oh no
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2022 03:41 Post subject: |
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@4treyu
Thats my basic view to. If its plot has major elements that revolve around the story to be completed because of the tag, or its a major theme of who it is aimed at it should have one. Regardless if its a gender tag, violence tag, action tag, sex tag..whatever.
Trying to 'do all the tags!' about things that are not important to the target audience or movies intended theme ruins the points of tags. Like should Die Hard have all the tags added?: Action, Violence, Straight, Sexy Bald Men, NYPD, LAPD, Christian Holidays, TAG Heuer watches?
Some of those are helpful and pertinent. But If that thing isnt important to the descriptive plot, it shouldn't be a tag.
To me its akin to having the tape back in the old days in a few sections of blockbuster and one of them is the 'gay' section. It's premises and story isn't aimed at that.
While Dahmer and his victims was gay. It's not important to the description of the movie beyond because they wasn't straight (the norm..so to speak by society standards of the majority is 'norm').
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Frant
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2022 05:27 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: |
So they DON'T want the tag used even though it's "technically true" unless it's ONLY used in happy/emo/drama movies...? |
To be fair nobody would if they was of a type and that was listed as a tag to imply connection (or simply misplaced self inferred connection) to a perceived defining trait of a despicable character.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Thu, 29th Sep 2022 20:50 Post subject: |
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I tried watching it, I enjoy true crime stuff and documentaries on the vilest of our species 
Like at the current moment I am listening when I go to bed for last week a 16 hour audio book about case studies mixed with the history, mindset, group types for overlapping mental traits, and breakdown of motivations and fixation 'ticks' of serial/mass murders.
But this show is not for me, not saying it is bad, just not for me. Its more drama/suspense show format and pacing than I can enjoy.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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tonizito
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Sep 2022 01:27 Post subject: |
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finished and was glued until the end, the ep with the deaf boy and the neighbour also very well done. evan peters was just so good to watch. this was true horror, the scenes where the neighbour hears and smells just gives u chills. the best horror is the one let to ur imagination
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2022 09:32 Post subject: |
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@monk3ybusin3ss
Same for why I couldnt watch it. Those looking for a drama/horror/suspense entertaining series based around the broad stroke of a famous serial killer will love it I think, the actor and plot does a great job for that 100%. I would recommend it for anyone looking for that.
But beyond him looking like him, and killing guys in his apartment its pretty inaccurate on timeline, his personality and persona, scenes that happen, his interaction with his neighbors and such. The main neighbor Glenda is a real person, but didnt even live in his building much less share a wall with him.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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Nodrim
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2022 10:24 Post subject: |
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Gotta monetize them killers, not tell true stories.
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StEFaN7
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Nodrim
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2022 13:29 Post subject: |
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they are not glamorizing anything for profit, they make it work to be more entertaing, its been like this since forever.
in the end they did tell a story very close to what happened. just because some elements here shifted or added, the end is still the same. so?
netflix is also releasing full docu series on dahmer so watch what u want
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DXWarlock
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StEFaN7
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2022 18:24 Post subject: |
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were u there?
I can see your soul at the edges of your eyes..
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Oct 2022 18:50 Post subject: |
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So the suspicions of wokeflix'ism seem to be correct? Shocking.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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DXWarlock
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| StEFaN7 wrote: | | were u there? |
No. I dont have to be there to know what happened. Books, interviews, police reports and investigation documentaries exist.
I wasnt personally there when Hiroshima was bombed. But if they said it happened at the start of the war and was done with a hydrogen bomb we can know that is wrong.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Oct 2022 18:44 Post subject: |
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This really became total fiction with each episode. His "neighbour" Glenda Cleveland didn't even live in his building. And she only called police once for that 14 years old kid. Never met him either. Nobody in the nearby rooms ever complained of this fucker. All interviews with people said he was always very friendly and was giving them sandwiches (which were possibly with human meat in them ffs....). No smell, no eviction notice, no calls to the police on Dahmer every other day. Ok, Netflix wants to "raise the racism issue" in every single show they make, but this is about a real life event and it becomes a damn propaganda to make things up just for the agenda. But then again they made Anne Boleyn show where she is a black lesbian, so they gonna keep such controversies as long as they make them money.
Fighting racism when calling every white person a racist. Hooray, Patrick, we saved Bikini Bottom!
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Oct 2022 18:58 Post subject: |
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@PredOborG
I feel it should have been listed as 'Inspired by' and less 'Based on'. Granted based on can be a pretty loose telling of a story, but this seems disingenuous to be called based on. Since this tries to set the shows setting and narrative as being accurate(ish).
This is based on Dahmer only slightly more accurately than Texas Chainsaw Massacre was based on Ed Gein. But at least TCM was an obvious over the top fantasy fiction that got inspirations from a demented isolated farmer that does not try to lead you to think Gein was actually like that. This just leads people to believe the entire history of Dahmer's events was different than they was. (Not saying HE deserves to have it accurately told, he deserves nothing. More that due to its nature it deserves to be accurately portrayed.)
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Oct 2022 19:39 Post subject: |
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Could be just me on what I consider accurate.
-Changing how soon neighbors was suspicious (if at all).
-How many was suspicious.
-Where the lady that called police lived.
-How long he had been doing it before she did.
-What she called about (changes the whole dynamic of her suspicions, or lack of)
-That she/him never really talked to each other vs the whole story revolves around them conflicting with other (the lady he DID talk to and give food to is not the one in the movie and even then he was barely on her radar other than as a friendly neighbor, and that one in the movie didnt even live in his building)
-And how his demeanor to his neighbors was (the whole interaction of the movie with others)
All that being changed isnt little things, to me anyway.
They changed literally everything other than: A man named Dahmer played by a guy that looks like him, lives in an apartment and rapes and kills men.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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