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dsergei
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garus
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dsergei
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| Posted: Sun, 19th Jul 2020 16:15 Post subject: |
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Sorry, I did not mention - I bought an SSD not that long ago, I have a Samsung EVO 860 - I think it would be ok as a secondary drive.
I think I can probably start now and get a 3080 later.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 06:45 Post subject: |
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Welp, I am gonna get new PC in January, I guess I am gonna for 10700k, 32GB, Which motherboard is recommanded? I don't need something that expansive, but something the should hold on 2x16GB and will add later that year rts 3070.
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 07:03 Post subject: |
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You dont need crazy expensive SSD, i'd only get 512gb capacity and store anything large via NAS slow disk. Pretty sure 16gb of RAM is still more than enough, could get away with a 6-8 core Ryzen for ages as well. Most likely get 3080 if pricing is to be as low as rumoured in your region.
Ofc spend more if you have cash to spend and don't care.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Sep 2020 07:06 Post subject: |
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I already have 1TB SSD my current rig, I am planning to move DVD drive and the SSD to the new rig, all other stuffs will be repleaced, I am planning to buy new rig soon wait some months and then buy dedicate graphics card, I am planning to go for the 3070, but if the pricing will be decent, I might go for the 3080.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Sep 2020 20:22 Post subject: |
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Basically, my planned new rig:
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-10700K Comet Lake Tray
Video Card: rtx 3070, maybe 3080
Ram: HyperX FURY DDR4 RGB 3466MHz 2x16GB HX434C16FB3AK2/32 DIMM
MotherBoard : Asus Prime Z490-P ATX
SSD : Samsung 970 EVO 1TB
Hard Disk: Western Digital WD Red WD60EFAX 6TB
PSU : Thermaltake Smart RGB 80+ White 700W
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5
Your opnion?
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couleur
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Sep 2020 20:26 Post subject: |
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My opinion: Wait for Zen 3 and get a PCIe 4.0 mobo.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Sep 2020 20:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 11:41 Post subject: |
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Didn't want to start a new thread so posting here.
I'm coming from an i5 4570.
I recently ordered:
- Ryzen 3600
- Asrock B450m Steel Legend
- 16GB G.Skill Flare X for AMD black DDR4-3200 DIMM CL16 dual kit
- be quiet! Pure Rock 2
The above will be coupled with a KFA GTX 1080 and a 650W EVGA G3 power supply inside a Define C case.
I decided to go with a 3600 since I'm more or less gaming only, the Zen 3 prices are too high for me and I can still upgrade to Zen 2 after the new bioses are released for the B450 series and the prices drop. The 3600 I should be able to resell easily as well and the Pure Rock 2 can handle a 3700x (and I'm guessing the 5xxx series processors with a similar TDP) as well.
The above cost me 340€ from Mindfactory.de with an additional cost of about 14€ for the forwarding company to ship the package to my country.
Do you guys think I made a good decision? Personally I think it's ok since it doesn't break the bank and this ram can be overclocked on this motherboard up to 3600mhz. The 3600 should be able to squeeze some more FPS out of the 1080 as well.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 11:55 Post subject: |
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It's a good budget rig. There will always be better options if you throw more money at it. It'll be a very nice upgrade from your old system.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 12:07 Post subject: |
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I'm at 1080p 144hz so I guess it'll last for awhile.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 12:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 19:50 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | That was basically my work PC a few weeks ago, it played everything. Maybe not at the highest settings but well enough @ 1440p |
This. CPU performance scaling has been stagnant for years for just gaming. I got like, 5-10FPS increase when I went from my 4790K to a 8700K.
GPUs. The 10xx series were great and still scale well. Don't care or need all that new fancy bullshit they throw in that makes games run even worse. Gunna be a long time before I find that my 1080ti isn't producing anymore, given games are all held back by console design now. |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 21:16 Post subject: |
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I plan to keep my 1080 for awhile as well. Served me well for 3 years and it should be fine for several more. Consoles are getting multiple cores so it's very likely that the console ports will be able to use them on PC as well so I think that upping the core count on my PC is a good idea.
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zTurbo
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Oct 2020 22:34 Post subject: |
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new tech is nowhere ready, very sad, direct storage still long way to go, ssd pcie 4 still too expensive.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 14:16 Post subject: |
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I got decent offer for this build:
CPU: Ryzen 5800X
Video Card: rtx 3070, ( probably going to change for the rx6800)
Ram: HyperX - 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz DDR4 CL16-18-18 1.35v - Fury Series
MotherBoard : ASUS AMD B550 (Ryzen AM4) ATX gaming motherboard with PCIe 4.0
SSD : Samsung 970 EVO 1TB
Hard Disk: Seagate - 2 TB - 3.5 inch -SATA3 6Gb/s - 7200rpm - 256MB Cache - BarraCuda X3 (6 TB in totall)
PSU : MPE-7501-ACAAB-EU - Coolermaster - 750W MWE BRONZE - 80 PLUS Bronze
Case: - P101 Silent - EATX - 527x232x506mm
CPU and GPU might change but this is the direction.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 14:20 Post subject: |
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all reviewers are saying to avoid the 5800x , its badly priced
also they epxect non x version to drop real soon and dropping prices further
go for four sticks of 8 ram if ur board has four slots
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couleur
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 15:18 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | all reviewers are saying to avoid the 5800x , its badly priced
also they epxect non x version to drop real soon and dropping prices further
go for four sticks of 8 ram if ur board has four slots |
The 5800x is only "bad" if you need the extra 4 cores that the 5900x offers (for ~$100 more). |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 15:33 Post subject: |
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well they are right, if u need that many cores then u need the 4 extra cores for just a small upcharge , otherwize ur just wasting money on cores that will never be fully used
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zTurbo
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 21:48 Post subject: |
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| JackQ wrote: | I got decent offer for this build:
CPU: Ryzen 5800X
Video Card: rtx 3070, ( probably going to change for the rx6800)
Ram: HyperX - 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz DDR4 CL16-18-18 1.35v - Fury Series
MotherBoard : ASUS AMD B550 (Ryzen AM4) ATX gaming motherboard with PCIe 4.0
SSD : Samsung 970 EVO 1TB
Hard Disk: Seagate - 2 TB - 3.5 inch -SATA3 6Gb/s - 7200rpm - 256MB Cache - BarraCuda X3 (6 TB in totall)
PSU : MPE-7501-ACAAB-EU - Coolermaster - 750W MWE BRONZE - 80 PLUS Bronze
Case: - P101 Silent - EATX - 527x232x506mm
CPU and GPU might change but this is the direction. |
i don't like this build at all.
First mistake over invest on cpu rather than on gpu, that's the most basic mistake. the 5600x is more than enough for years ahead, instead i'd buy a better gpu the 6800xt or the 3080.
the ssd i'd go with one that delivers 5000 read at least to match potatoes, the rest is fine.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 21:55 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice guys, I will definitely alter the build for proper changes, nothing set in stone yet.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Nov 2020 22:47 Post subject: |
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Don't cheap out on the PSU. A 80 Plus Platinum at the range you are looking for is not that expensive, especially when considering the total cost of your PC.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Nov 2020 13:53 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | PickupArtist wrote: | all reviewers are saying to avoid the 5800x , its badly priced
also they epxect non x version to drop real soon and dropping prices further
go for four sticks of 8 ram if ur board has four slots |
The 5800x is only "bad" if you need the extra 4 cores that the 5900x offers (for ~$100 more). |
This right there, them Youtubers all saying the 5800X is MEH !
The fuck ?
I agree it might be better priced if in the 400$ range but they are all like : "Hey for 100€ more you get the 5900X !"
100€ for 4 more cores most games don't give a fuck about ... And 5800X gives more performance than a 5600X in games.
My plan was to put these 100€ in a better a graphics card (ie. a 6800XT rather than RX6800 or 3080 rather a 3070)
Now if you plan to do serious things with your PC (other than games) yeh go with a 5900X.
Serious Rig: CPU : Ryzen7 9800X3D | GC : NVIDIA RTX 5080 FE | Mobo : MSI MPG Carbon X870E | RAM : 64GB DDR5 TridentZ5 Neo 6000 | Case : Fractal Define 7 XL | Cooler : Fractal Celcius S28 Prisma | PSU : Corsair RX1000 Shift | Monitor : LG Oled C2 42" 4K/G-Sync
Mobile Rig : Asus ROG751 JT | i7-4720HQ | GTX 970m | 16GB DDR3 \ G-Sync
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JackQ
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| Posted: Mon, 8th Mar 2021 19:05 Post subject: |
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New offer I got;
CPU:
Ryzen 5600x
Motherhood:
B550-AORUS-ELITE-V2 - Gigabyte
HDD
ST2000DM008 - Seagate -
2TB - 3.5 inch -SATA3 6Gb/s - 7200rpm - 256MB Cache x3
Case:
-Silent-HCG-750G - Antec -
P101 Silent - EATX - With 750W Antec HCG-750G 80Plus Gold Modular PSU
Cooler:
NH-U12S-CHROMAX-BLACK - Noctua -
120mm CPU Cooler - Height (with fan): 158 mm
Ram:
AX4U3600316G18A-SB10x2 - XPG -
32GB (2x16GB) 3600Mhz DDR4 PC4-25600 CL18 DIMM - 1.35V - Black - XPG D10
I will put 1030 gt and in few months and price drop will add something like 3080 or 3070 super.
Should I change to PSU to 850 instead of 750?
Thanks.
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Obviously I'm not keeping anything other than my SSD.
