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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Jun 2020 22:32    Post subject:
but is there an end goal or just endless random missions? only played sp and wondered if should i try the mp, but need to replay sp to get familiar again which i dont want


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2020 00:01    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
but is there an end goal or just endless random missions? only played sp and wondered if should i try the mp, but need to replay sp to get familiar again which i dont want


No goal. Just endless random shite. Heists are fun with friends. Very bad with random people messing around and even worse on hard where one person dies and it restarts.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2020 00:32    Post subject:
You still have some story missions. I don't know details about them because I am trying the stuff that's not in the Single Player which are the different kind of activities like races, shootings, vehicle stealing etc.

I think the main goal is to buy businesses, do missions for them and grow them to buy better things like luxury cars or combat airplanes. You also gain levels like in a classic MMO and higher levels unlock some new missions, gear, vehicles/weapons upgrades, cosmetics (clothes, tattoos) etc. Basically like any other MMO. Not sure if there is some kind of an "endgame" tho. Maybe buying businesses and develop them doing special missions for them?

But there are lots of different activities that are unique only to Online and can't be played in Story Mode. For example some kind of Tron races in special small map where your motorcycle makes a long coloured line and you have to make other players cross it to kill them or avoid their colored lines. Or shooting survival in a house with other players from attacking waves of NPC's. There's also Flight School similar to the one in the single player but with fucked up hard missions.

I recommend giving it a try. I like Online when it works which is kinda rare sometimes. Last hour I tried to play but constantly got disconnected from the stupid game... I also finished the Single Player 3 years ago but had no problem getting into Online. You constantly get popups about what you have to do and how anyway. Only had to remind myself to pilot the helicopters and airplanes with WASD and the 8456 num keys.
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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jun 2020 15:27    Post subject:
gave the online a go but wtf are these loading times lol, not only that it takes forever to first load into online but even in online when you try to do mission with others it just loads a menu one after another. this really seems very limited to the current times, i almost forgot this first came out on ps3/360 but after so many years i thought they upgraded some parts.

havent played much but when it works its ok but with these loading times i just cant play like this. the time it takes to load into online i can play a quick apex match booting the game from 0 lol.

no to mention other players just roam around killing other players, many times people were just inviting all server to their apartment only to gun everyone down lol.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jun 2020 15:41    Post subject:
Even then all that loading felt ancient to anyone having played online stuff. Razz


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jun 2020 21:23    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
gave the online a go but wtf are these loading times lol


I think it's because of the many modders that are even more now after it was free on EGS. Last week I was playing in whatever session I get into and almost every time there was someone immortal, teleporting, blowing up everyone with a single click, spawning vehicles on top of others, spawning players in cages, balls even into a Ferris wheel Laughing and generally lagging the whole session for everyone. Few days ago I learned a trick to suspend the GTAV.exe process in the Resource Manager for 5-10 secs and when I ALT+TAB back into the game it puts me in a solo session where you can still be a CEO or Motorcycle club manager and do supply missions for money. Now I load into Online in 7-8 mins while before it took 15 even 20 sometimes (without an SSD Sad ). I found a couple of players with whom we do Casino heist and other stuff together. Modders really ruin Online. With most normal griefers you an deal with once you learn to check the map more often and be prepared to kill anyone coming closer (90% someone with a flying bike is a griefer coming to kill) but there is nothing you can do to modders, who can also have anti-kick or anri-report mods.

Also be sure to select "Load into Story Mode first" in the settings. The loading into Online will be much faster this way after you have already entered the single player.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2020 10:28    Post subject:
"faster" ^^

This game is far from fast, even loading it from SP takes still ages.


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2020 12:28    Post subject:
yeah, i already tried that and still takes some time, but its not even that, its like i said also when you try to matchmake in missions with others.

i gave up anyway, you add that + modders its just horrible. i thought modds were banned? how are they releasing this for ps5 in this condition? even for free..


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PostPosted: Mon, 22nd Jun 2020 13:23    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
yeah, i already tried that and still takes some time, but its not even that, its like i said also when you try to matchmake in missions with others.

i gave up anyway, you add that + modders its just horrible. i thought modds were banned? how are they releasing this for ps5 in this condition? even for free..


I just checked how long it takes for me to load into online from the moment I click the icon to when I can control my character and it took 6 mins. Not bad for a HDD. Last week it was at least 15.

About the modders - they don't have admins in the game to check them. Even if they did it would've still be hard to ban them all with these 30 player sessions when millions are playing. Most of the game is hosted by a played and that's why modders have such freedom to screw up basically everything. But at least they can't steal your money. Or not anymore. I read that close to release you had to pay the insurance if you destroy someone's vehicle and modders could exploit that and drain you dry from cash. But that was removed later.

They still ban the them when they see reports because modders can throw down millions of cash to other players and then they won't buy Shark Cards with which R* makes most money.

It's really not a game to play long term anyway because even tho there really is great variety of missions and things to do the game is like a jack of all trades but not special in anything. It may have stealth missions but they feel rushed and far from games like old Splinter Cells or Thief. It has lots of races but they are lacking somehow and just don't feel like Forza Horizon or even NFS. The heists are like "raids" from WoW and are interesting but start to get boring after completing them once or twice. I don't know how often they add a new and fresh content to Online, perhaps 2 times a year? Even then it takes a week or two to see all of it and then back to doing nothing other than grinding cash for the best vehicles/businesses/houses but other than that the game feels hollow.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 03:32    Post subject:
people must still be shelling out big bucks for those shark cards.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 23:15    Post subject:
Well, I bought everything good after playing for 3 and a half months - best cars, helis, jets, penthouse, yacht etc. Pain in the ass at the beginning even with that Premium Edition. But after finding some people to play with, to do Casino heists, to sell MC and CEO stuff, now in 4 hours I can make make 2-4 millions (depends if I just AFK or grind missions +/- heist). Got burned out and haven't played in the last 2 months. Maybe I will get back to grind some 20 mils until this big update comes out. Solo heist sounds good as I became good in the Casino and last tries I did all by myself. Very Happy
Oh and I have to still play most of the missions. There are like 500-600 different ones but I did only about 50 even tho some are fun but give very little money.
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Nov 2020 23:58    Post subject:
I haven't play online so excuse me for asking, but what's the point of having a penthouse, best cars, jets, helis and a yacht?
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 00:23    Post subject:
I don't know. I find the online part of the game utterly boring and pointless.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 00:48    Post subject:
And tedious.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 00:49    Post subject:
Divvy wrote:
I haven't play online so excuse me for asking, but what's the point of having a penthouse, best cars, jets, helis and a yacht?


Penthouse allows you to start up heists. Allows for storing of your cars at your place where you can spawn.

That's really about it.

Unless they changed any of that since I last played like 2 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Nov 2020 09:21    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Divvy wrote:
I haven't play online so excuse me for asking, but what's the point of having a penthouse, best cars, jets, helis and a yacht?


Penthouse allows you to start up heists. Allows for storing of your cars at your place where you can spawn.

That's really about it.

Unless they changed any of that since I last played like 2 years ago.


The penthouse specifically is mostly a flex. The heist starts from another property you have to buy separately - the Arcade.
But the penthouse is much better than the useless yachts because it unlocks you 6 new missions (yachts now have their own missions too but only 1 of them is good and they all give little to no money) that a quite interesting and chaotic and give you 1.5 mil after you complete them (one time achievement bonus) which means you get back the money for the cheapest penthouse. Another unique thing about the penthouse are the hundreds of statues and paintings you can decorate each room. They cost too much tho, I think all of them together are some 3-4 mils. So fully upgraded and decorated penthouse is if you have too many millions lying around. Laughing Ah, and a private barber who will cut your and your guests' hair for free (because 15$ for a haircut is too much for a millionaire Very Happy ).

About the cars - if you are into races, it's much easier to win with the best cars, of course. In the open tho, to drive around the city in full sessions, they are only useless flex as they are just a fast moving targets.

The Hydra and Lazer jets (the latter you can "steal for free" from the military base if you have a hangar there) are for PvP. They are the best thing to kill people outside the Mk-2 "flying bike" (this one is the must have thing in the game as it helps with absolutely everything and makes grinding much faster).

Helicopters are also for PvP - specifically the Akula and Hunter. And they are fun to fly with.

The yacht.... is the most useless thing in the game. Overly expensive (cheapest is 6 mil) and even the apartment in it is smaller than the high-end apartments (they cost 500k-1 mil). Unlocks 1 mostly useless CEO mission where you have to defend your yacht from other players. It can be quite fun if you want to force PvP without griefing but gives only 30k for 10 mins (that's the time you have to defend for). And I already said about the special yacht missions.

TL;DR: All in all - they are mostly for "mega-millionaire flex" but all those can be fun if you have couple of people to use them with. But GTA Online is terrible for solo players. If I didn't find people to play with, I would've deleted it in the first 2 weeks.

PS: To add to the TL;DR, it's also bad to have too many friends in the game or joining a very big crew (like IGN which has 2.5 million members). Because a lot of time, especially when doing some open world missions (such as selling meth or gathering CEO crates), you will want to be either solo or with 2-3 friends max. But when you have too many friends or joined big crew other people will start joining your session and soon there will be some griefer blowing you up or a modder bugging up the game. Even have to be careful who you are friends with because if you have just one friend who is in a big crew or has 30+ people will join him and you. Russians are such "community players" who always try to have as many friends as possible and to be in the biggest crews so I avoid them.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jan 2021 15:31    Post subject:
Haha the meme has gone full circle. Saw it yesterday and laughed my arse off, the way they replicate the characters' movements is especially uncanny Very Happy Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jan 2021 15:46    Post subject:
Definitely a legendary moment to top this off.
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Jan 2021 22:03    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Haha the meme has gone full circle. Saw it yesterday and laughed my arse off, the way they replicate the characters' movements is especially uncanny Very Happy Laughing


Because they really did those movements in the making of GTA 5. Almost the whole game has been mocap-ed by them. Here is a video of the actor of Trevor talking about it:

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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Mar 2021 13:55    Post subject:
Rockstar thanks GTA Online player who fixed poor load times, official update coming
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Mar 2021 15:51    Post subject:
The guy / fixer got 10k USD from R*.


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Mar 2021 16:20    Post subject:
At least they have acknowledge the fix and will implement it in the upcoming update. Those loading times are ridiculous.

Edit: just noticed an update on Steam, and there are already videos about improved loading times. Takes about a minute now Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Mar 2021 08:46    Post subject:
THe upload is live indeed. Loading to online mode is now very quick.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Mar 2021 09:16    Post subject:
Yes, damn. Used to load Online in 5-6 minutes, now it's under a minute. So Much Win
Wish this happened long ago. ~15% of my time in this game has been in loading screens. Sad
And because this fix is made by some passionate guy outside R*, I am sure there won't be any bugs too. Otherwise every damn time they "fix" something at least 5 other things break.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Mar 2021 10:16    Post subject:
garus wrote:
R* didn't copy his solution verbatim.


As long as they didn't come up with it from the start, it's good. Smile
Probably 5 more people like this guy and there will be no more bugs at all in a year. Laughing After the Cayo update all older Heists are broken 2 out of 5 times.
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